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12-17-2012 11:00 PM #1 tickingaway (Member)
Mac or PC?

I was wondering what everyone else uses as their daily machines to make monies online?

The reason I ask is because I am currently using an external monitor off my MacBook Pro retina and recently acquired a thinkpad just to use some windows programs instead of using VMware fusion on the mac. And the more and more I use windows 7, the more I notice windows 7 is a pretty decent os for productivity.

So what are your guys opinion? I mean it is not like we use anything like final cut or anything. All programs on the Mac exist for the pc and vice versa, not to mention the flexibility of even upgrading your pc laptop is more feasible seeing how apple locked down their entire machine just to use their own specified hardware.


12-17-2012 11:10 PM #2 trust93 (Member)

I go with a PC for a desktop as my main work station. You can upgrade whenever a new part comes out so you don't have to buy a whole new computer when your's gets outdated...

For laptop I would go with a macbook... Just my opinion


12-17-2012 11:24 PM #3 dusklife (Member)

Just switched over from having previously been a lifetime Windows user to using a Macbook Pro Retina. I won't be switching back.

The screen is beautiful, everything is instant, nothing crashes or has problems, and productivity has increased as things are so intuitive.

If you can afford it and there aren't any Windows-specific apps you're relying on, I'd say go Mac.


12-17-2012 11:39 PM #4 rockstar john (Member)

If you go with pc,
Check out the laptops these guys got.
http://www.xoticpc.com/

I've always had a 50 lbs desktop because I need the 'horsepower' of a desktop and laptops in the previous years do not meet my standards. However, recently, certain new hardware for laptops has increased performance by a factor of 3 since 2011. Just ordered their flagship 300 Watt desktop replacement laptop as kind of a self-gift for winning in the hunger games. yeahhh lol


12-18-2012 01:43 AM #5 tical (Member)

I've nothing against Macs aside from not liking the fact that they are overpriced (hardware wise). They are beautiful machines that's for sure.

I've been using a PC for almost 15 years now. I know it so well, I never get viruses, my applications don't crash, and everything works just fine for me.


12-18-2012 09:55 AM #6 vidivo (Member)

Everyone that posted didnt really tell you why to go with mac or pc. Ill tell you the truth:

Macs are more flashy, elegant and sleek... sure they dont get viruses or crash but I could care less since my PC is a machineeeee... I'd go with a PC anyday since you can upgrade it and customize it much easier, tons of online software (especially pirated) don't work with Macs or have issues unless its a PC. Also the MAC interface isnt as easy or fast to easy compared to windows xp or 7. Not to mention most of apple products are super sketchy, designed to break, and are just a scam overall.. i mean just look at the ipad mini


12-18-2012 10:24 AM #7 dmcsite (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by vidivo View Post
Everyone that posted didnt really tell you why to go with mac or pc. Ill tell you the truth:

Macs are more flashy, elegant and sleek... sure they dont get viruses or crash but I could care less since my PC is a machineeeee... I'd go with a PC anyday since you can upgrade it and customize it much easier, tons of online software (especially pirated) don't work with Macs or have issues unless its a PC. Also the MAC interface isnt as easy or fast to easy compared to windows xp or 7. Not to mention most of apple products are super sketchy, designed to break, and are just a scam overall.. i mean just look at the ipad mini
Wait whats wrong with the ipad mini? I've been enjoying the new lighter design and portability. How is it a scam?

Also if windows is so great how come Windows 8 has tried so hard to copy the touch and feel of iOS?

Also there is tons of pirated software for Mac. Shit you could even turn your custom built pc machine into a sick Mac Pro Hackintosh running all the latest softwares. Just my 2 cent


12-18-2012 10:43 AM #8 fjk87 (Veteran Member)

In my opinion, PC or Mac doesn't make too much of a difference for 'us' average user. Both systems have pros and cons. Depending on the industry you're working in, you'll see an overload of pc or mac. But as long as you're doing AM and you don't need anything superspecial to run on one of the two platforms, actually both will do the job pretty well for you. It's like asking a Mercedes driver about BMW and vice versa. Guys doing only design will go with the Mac route all day long (at least that's my experience), professional coders tend to do similiar. People doing stuff for 'average' clients often work on Windows. Just buy what you like most in terms of design, cause I think that's a major factor as well when it comes to feeling comfortable at work - having an interface you'd rather enjoy working with than something you feel odd about every day...


12-18-2012 10:48 AM #9 vidivo (Member)


12-18-2012 11:19 AM #10 river (Member)

I bought a Macbook Pro last month to take away on vacation, I came back & started using my Windows 7 PC again and hate it! My Mac is much easier to use and just feels smooth - Don't get me wrong, Windows has its place for gaming & other things but when it comes to coding, Photoshop and ease of use - Mac all the way!


12-18-2012 12:19 PM #11 andyscraven (Member)

Once you had a Mac, you never go back!

I got my first Mac 2 months ago and wish I had done it years ago! Gone are the days when I am waiting for Windows to stop f**king about!

When I turn it on, it's ON! It's connected and I am working!

I have the 15" Macbook Pro Retina and I use multiple desktops! It is like shit off a stick! I also still own three Windows 7 laptops and my Mac is faster than them all put together!

And @vidivo: Where did you get that photo of me? :-) AND more to the point, why do you have it? Is it the legs? :-)


12-18-2012 03:10 PM #12 shogun (Member)

I don't know what you guys do on your PC that it's cause problems/crashes/headaches/whatever I've worked on both PC and MAC, and both do a great job. I think it's just a matter of design,everyday comfort and budget, unless you are an professional designer or musician (they are definitely with MAC).

andyscraven, your win7 laptops are in the same price and hardware config as your Macbook Pro Retina?


12-18-2012 03:20 PM #13 andyscraven (Member)

@shogun: My Windows Laptops cost approx, £1000. my Macbook Pro cost £1800. It has to be said that it is waaaaayyyyy faster and easier to use than my laptops!

To make things clear though, for years, I said I would never get a Mac but now I have I realised what a schmuck I was!


12-18-2012 03:40 PM #14 tickingaway (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by andyscraven View Post
@shogun: My Windows Laptops cost approx, £1000. my Macbook Pro cost £1800. It has to be said that it is waaaaayyyyy faster and easier to use than my laptops!

To make things clear though, for years, I said I would never get a Mac but now I have I realised what a schmuck I was!
You also have to consider that your retina macbook is loaded with an SSD compared to the regular platter hard drive in your old windows laptop is a lot faster too.

If you loaded any recent windows laptop with an SSD, I am sure you will notice comparable speeds.


12-18-2012 03:45 PM #15 shogun (Member)

@andyscraven, LOL ... i see
@tickingaway, true


12-18-2012 03:56 PM #16 timtetra ()

For your average user, the maintenance involved in cleaning up spyware, viruses, DEFRAGGING, etc is not doable, and even with pretty continuous maintenance, Windows 7 inevitably slows down after 1-1.5 years of use, even if you trim the fat on everything, until you do an entire re-install of the OS + all your apps from scratch. I've used Windows since 3.1, and used to hate on Mac users too because I felt like they overcharged for the hardware. My argument was always "I could and will build a better supercooled overclocked computer etc better than that for half the price." Then when people would mention that you don't get viruses or spyware or shit, I'd just retort with "Learn how to not click on spyware and download stupid shit"

In the end, honestly what made me switch to Mac forever was:

1. Growing up and not playing video games anymore
2. Apathy from having to do a fresh install just to keep the speed up after continuous use
3. Getting an iPhone etc and just seeing how smoothly it ran/runs vs the competition
4. Having -nix experience and seeing the level of polish on OSX vs the closest competition like Ubuntu while maintaining that level of linux-type stability and performance
5. Having pretty much every app you need on PC for actually MAKING MONEY available on a mac, and even if you're some script kiddie running shittily made .NET blackhat tools to spam SEO etc, you can just...
6. Install Parallels, run it on coherence mode, and run the apps you need on Windows almost as if they were native Mac apps. Then realize you never really needed most of the apps in the first place.

Honestly the only app I thought was better made for Windows vs Mac is uTorrent's implementation on both sides. That said, I've tweaked Transmission to mirror most of its functionality and it fits into my workflow. And to the person who says you can't pirate stuff on mac, you must not be searching very hard... go look on kat.ph (whether you use PC or mac) and it's all there. Once you actually make some money, go ahead and actually buy the software like a grown-up.

If you're an adult with some level of budget for the MAIN piece of equipment that you use to make money, and especially if you are going for a laptop, there is nothing even remotely close to a Macbook Retina or Air. Apple's main unique selling proposition is that their shit looks nice on the outside and just works inside. It just works. Every piece of hardware is selected because it is 100% compatible with each other piece, and it's not like they use shit for parts. Every argument I've ever heard and used to make vs Apple's stuff was based on it being overpriced, or it revolving around some sort of elitist cult of hipsters using it. Once you get over the idiocy of the second and assuming you have the budget for the first... it's really quite simple. If you actually move past sheep-herd-mind-thinking and ask yourself a utilitarian/bottom-line question of how much would a more efficient, robust, and fail proof workflow be to my primary money-making task, the answer should be fairly obvious.

My 2 million cents


12-18-2012 04:04 PM #17 andyscraven (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by tickingaway View Post
You also have to consider that your retina macbook is loaded with an SSD compared to the regular platter hard drive in your old windows laptop is a lot faster too.

If you loaded any recent windows laptop with an SSD, I am sure you will notice comparable speeds.
You may be right although the operating system on the Mac (built on Linux I believe) is waaaaaaayyyy better than Windows will ever be!


12-18-2012 04:07 PM #18 andyscraven (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by timtetra View Post
If you're an adult with some level of budget for the MAIN piece of equipment that you use to make money, and especially if you are going for a laptop, there is nothing even remotely close to a Macbook Retina or Air. Apple's main unique selling proposition is that their shit looks nice on the outside and just works inside. It just works. Every piece of hardware is selected because it is 100% compatible with each other piece, and it's not like they use shit for parts. Every argument I've ever heard and used to make vs Apple's stuff was based on it being overpriced, or it revolving around some sort of elitist cult of hipsters using it. Once you get over the idiocy of the second and assuming you have the budget for the first... it's really quite simple. If you actually move past sheep-herd-mind-thinking and ask yourself a utilitarian/bottom-line question of how much would a more efficient, robust, and fail proof workflow be to my primary money-making task, the answer should be fairly obvious.

My 2 million cents
Amen brother!

I am running a business from my Mac and I need it to be fast and efficient.

If you are a racing driver do you buy a Pickup or a Ferrari?

"I'd buy a Pickup because they are cheaper," says Num Nuts!
"Then you will lose the race," say I.


12-18-2012 04:09 PM #19 nusolutionz (Veteran Member)

i love my macbook pro retina..only had to reboot it once in the last 40 days for an os update. it just works :-)


12-18-2012 04:10 PM #20 andyscraven (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by nusolutionz View Post
i love my macbook pro retina..only had to reboot it once in the last 40 days for an os update. it just works :-)
I can ditto the above! Gotta love the 15" Macbook Pro Retina!

Can you remember sitting there waiting for Windows to do.... Stuff? Jeesh that alone must allow me to get an extra hour of work done a day!


12-18-2012 04:37 PM #21 nyc (Member)

got my first mac in 2007 and havent and probably will never have a pc again.. will be getting an 11" macbook air soon!


12-18-2012 08:59 PM #22 timtetra ()

After using my 15 inch Macbook Retina for 5 months while traveling full time etc, going back to a regular screen is almost unbearable. I almost asked my dad if something was wrong with his screen before realizing that's at best how computers always looked for 99% of my life


12-18-2012 09:03 PM #23 fjk87 (Veteran Member)

Macbook air is with the Lenovo X series probably the best notebook for travelling. I used to have a x61s back when it was released, fell down the stairs at an airport and still worked, never experienced that. Still in terms of design and nowadays, I'd prefer the Macbook air 11', looks so sexy and has a very strong performance for its size !


12-18-2012 10:37 PM #24 zeno (Administrator)

In the end it's what is more productive for you that is the better option. Most people either love or hate macs, those who use them tend to find the UI/operation a lot easier and more streamlined and enjoy more 'stability'. The mac vs pc stability argument is flawed since 99% of macs are running preset hardware sets. Same with performance arguments, there is virtually nothing a Mac can do that a PC can't, it all depends on the hardware. I run PC because I am stupid fast at everything with Win7, have little experience with Mac OS, build my own rigs and know exactly what I'm doing, so stability/performance is heavily biased because of myself. Macs have always had an advantage when it comes to display size and resolution, the retina is just the latest tick. Software is another thing... Depends on what you do, but I have seen more interesting mac-only apps than windows-only apps. I am a gamer though, so macs can be a thorn there - though this is increasingly not the case...

If you are on a budget get a PC, especially if after a laptop; if you aren't get whatever you want as long as it's going to make you more productive. If you are on a budget for a desktop but want a mac, just build a hackintosh.


12-18-2012 11:28 PM #25 maynzie (Moderator)

Haha I prefer mac, but I run a VMware fusion install too


12-19-2012 01:09 AM #26 laverdureshow (Member)

if you buy a mac don't buy a damn laptop you'll become less productive ... that's what is happening with me -.-


12-19-2012 04:57 AM #27 paullow (Member)

I may the rare and unfortunate case here. But my Macbook Pro, which i bought around May 2011, the logic board (motherboard) just spoil on its own. Yeap, after just 1.5 years of use.
So i am now back to PC at the moment, and for anything affiliate marketing, it runs just fine.
I may still buy a Mac in the future, because i think the trackpad and the screen are miles ahead of PC, but no hurry.


12-19-2012 06:51 AM #28 splitter8 (Member)

Home office is PC with three monitors, there's nothing like that Minority Report move to take a browser tab and put in on another screen...nice. ATI aka AMD's Eyefinity makes it possible, just start googling "PC makers 3 screens" you'll find some starting around $2500 do yourself a favor and get a SSD drive or if money is no object the OCZ's Revo drive is insanely fast.

On the road it's MacBook Air or if money is no object the retina display macbook pro

Use dropbox, evernote, lastpass and google apps to keep everything synced up.

To answer your question "Both"


12-19-2012 08:03 AM #29 bosstactical (Member)

Not gonna hate on Mac users, but I'm a Windows guy all the way.

Yeah, Mac stuff is overpriced, but for the average guy it's just easier for them and they think it looks cool. They're willing to pay for that... Apple products have become something of a fashion statement.

Apple has had a brilliant marketing team in the last few years and that's what has really propelled them forward IMO.

For music and design stuff sure I hear the Mac is great for that, I just don't really know so I can't say. Mac is great for that kid down the block making his beats and stuff on Garage Band I suppose, or that artist down the street, but at the end of the day, so is Windows. Apple has just spent a whole lot of money making the whole world think that way.

The Macbook is a pretty sweet laptop, it's definitely the best built one in my opinion but is the price worth it? It's up to the buyer I guess. I'll tell you if I was more of a spender I'd grab one but it's just not worth it to me.

However, when it comes to desktops, PC all the way IMO. Unless you're dumb and clicking on and installing things you shouldn't be, you shouldn't be getting any viruses or anything. You can upgrade the thing forever, it costs like half a Mac if you're building it yourself or having a friend do it, and it will be much faster for doing intensive tasks like encoding etc if you spend what you'd spend on a Mac. It's just more bang for your buck.

And yes, just like your Mac, it just works. I don't see how people can say you have to wait for Windows to do stuff? You must be comparing an older machine to your new Mac, or didn't know how to take care of it properly.

It's pretty simple. Run CCleaner and maybe run a firewall, and that's about it lol. I actually recommend against running anti virus and spyware software because it'll just bog everything down. Be smart, and you'll be fine.

My PC is 2 years old now, lightning fast, and doesn't try to make me do shit I don't wanna do while looking all fancy pants lol.

But that's just me. I know a lot of guys just prefer the interface and they're willing to pay for it. Nothing wrong with that. But when it comes down to it for me, it's kind of like this funny Youtube video I watched a long time ago.

Customer walks into store, "I want iPhone". "Sorry Sir, we're all sold out, but we have this new Android phone that's faster and cheaper." "I want iPhone". "Sir, the battery is removable and lasts longer". "iPhone". "But sir, the screen is better as well." "iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone!" "It will fucking print you money!" "Me want iPhone!"

It's kind of like the whole "iSheep" mentality, I'm def not calling you guys iSheep I know you're smarter than that haha I'm just talking general population here that have no business in buying overpriced hardware when their economy is in shambles and they work for minimum wage. But yeah, marketing works I guess.

I'd still choose a Macbook over a Windows laptop if money didn't matter, but yeah, desktop Windows ftw. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but in my mind Mac is all like "yayyy look at me" "alright I just wanna do this now..." "noooo we must do it this way!!!" "but i just.." "nooo first we have to import your iCrap into your iCrap editor, you can't use that otherrrrr edittoorrr!" Lol. I dunno why the Mac has a "voice" like that in my mind it just does haha.

Anyways... just pick your poison.


12-19-2012 08:50 AM #30 andyscraven (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by splitter8 View Post
Home office is PC with three monitors, there's nothing like that Minority Report move to take a browser tab and put in on another screen...nice. ATI aka AMD's Eyefinity makes it possible, just start googling "PC makers 3 screens" you'll find some starting around $2500 do yourself a favor and get a SSD drive or if money is no object the OCZ's Revo drive is insanely fast.

On the road it's MacBook Air or if money is no object the retina display macbook pro

Use dropbox, evernote, lastpass and google apps to keep everything synced up.

To answer your question "Both"
Have you been in my office? :-) before my Macbook Pro Retina I had three laptops not I just need the Mac!

Just like you I use Dropbox, Evernote, Lastpass and Google, so even if I lost or broke my Mac I can just open up a Laptop and start work!

One word of caution with Dropbox though, it is not a document revision system and if you mess up a document and save it it will propagate across all synced machines. I used to use software called Code CoOp and if anybody knows of a good one that runs on Macs let me know!


12-21-2012 06:54 PM #31 tickingaway (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mi6430 View Post
Can anyone of you Mac users answer my question from the previous post. How do you implement a dual or triple monitor setup and still have a clean, sleek look on your desk? Please read my previous post, I love Mac's, especially my Imac but my dual monitor setup on the PC side provides a nice sleek workstation whichmakes multitasking easy. You obviously can do a dual monitor setup with the mac but would need to use 2 bulky cinema displays or a macbook pro as one monitor which is not the same thing. If apple can provide two sleek monitors that can be hung on my desk braces, like I have now, then the Mac will be my choice also.
bro, if you do have the retina versions, it is as easy as 2 minidisplay ports.


12-21-2012 06:55 PM #32 tickingaway (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by fjk87 View Post
Unless you're into super specific stuff that is clearly focussing on MAC as the platform of choice for running, like editing music, professional design (not talking about our ballin landers here) there's actually not that much of a decision involved. You will earn exactly the same creating your campaigns / creatives / landers doing it on a PC or a MAC. Neither you'll save any kind of big time due to load times, face it, those are seconds that might add up to a couple of hours over a whole year if it comes down to that.

It's like ferrari / lamborghini, mercedes / bmw, black / white or carrier discussion when it comes to chosing a provider for your mobile. Both have ups and downs, in 99% of the cases your results will be similiar on both machines as YOU are doing the work, not the machine.

'Personal preferences' are kinda mixed up with facts in this thread in my opinion, some think Macs are stylish, some think Macs are shit, who gives a fuck? Just buy what YOU are most comfortable with, you'll probably be able to make money on any of those platforms doing AM...
/thread


12-21-2012 07:36 PM #33 mi6430 (Member)

Don't think you understand. I know you can get Apple's bulky cinema displays side by side with a thunderbolt connection but I am looking for a sleek design that doesn't take too much space on a desk. My existing setup. Left side two monitors side by side on a bracket which is sleek and leaves a lot of room on my desk since the monitors are floating on the desk brace. Imagine If I had 2 Apple Cinema displays. The left side of the disk would be covered up entirely. So, for dual or Three monitor setup, I am still waiting for a solution so I can make 100% move to Apple. Nevertheless, windows 7 with "Dual Monitors" is an Affiliate Multi-Taskers friend. Notice I state Dual monitors and Affiliate Multi Tasker. That is the only reason I am using Windows since if you are creating campaigns daily and doing a ton of other stuff you need a clean multiple monitor solution.


12-21-2012 07:43 PM #34 dmcsite (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mi6430 View Post
Don't think you understand. I know you can get Apple's bulky cinema displays side by side with a thunderbolt connection but I am looking for a sleek design that doesn't take too much space on a desk. My existing setup. Left side two monitors side by side on a bracket which is sleek and leaves a lot of room on my desk since the monitors are floating on the desk brace. Imagine If I had 2 Apple Cinema displays. The left side of the disk would be covered up entirely. So, for dual or Three monitor setup, I am still waiting for a solution so I can make 100% move to Apple. Nevertheless, windows 7 with "Dual Monitors" is an Affiliate Multi-Taskers friend. Notice I state Dual monitors and Affiliate Multi Tasker. That is the only reason I am using Windows since if you are creating campaigns daily and doing a ton of other stuff you need a clean multiple monitor solution.
You know Cinema Display and Thunderbolt Display are two different things. What's not clean about two 27 inch thunderbolts? Also you can daisy chain thunderbolt displays so you only need 1 port on your machine.

http://9to5mac.files.wordpress.com/2...ng?w=657&h=492

Edit here is mount that works for thunderbolts

http://www.buymounts.com/products/13...nt-monitors-27


12-21-2012 08:29 PM #35 mi6430 (Member)

this solution will not work and what I am talking about, it would take the entire desk.

The second solution may work. I may consider it down the road definitely.


01-29-2013 08:08 AM #36 orlandoprofit (Member)

I have a two year old 17" Macbook Pro w/ Intel i5 and 8GB RAM. It's cool, but started breaking down all the time with battery issues, charger cable issues, and the laptop would forget WiFi password and date/time just about every time I turned it on. Took it to Apple store and they gave me a new charger cable and said that was the problem. The problem persists.

Meanwhile, last summer I scooped up this BEAST.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Series.../dp/B006MX0WHU

Samsung NP700G7C 17" Gaming laptop. i7, 16gb ram, 1gb gfx card. A beast of a laptop w/ Windows 7. Nothing—and I mean nothing—lags on this baby. I think the people complaining about laggy PC's need to get a better PC.


01-29-2013 08:16 AM #37 andyscraven (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by orlandoprofit View Post
Meanwhile, last summer I scooped up this BEAST.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Series.../dp/B006MX0WHU

Samsung NP700G7C 17" Gaming laptop. i7, 16gb ram, 1gb gfx card. A beast of a laptop w/ Windows 7. Nothing—and I mean nothing—lags on this baby. I think the people complaining about laggy PC's need to get a better PC.
It does look a bit of a beast but my Macbook Pro 15" Retina w/Intel i7 would give it a run for its money!!! :-)


01-29-2013 08:38 AM #38 thomasbhm (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by tical View Post
I've nothing against Macs aside from not liking the fact that they are overpriced (hardware wise).
It's not overpriced if you're willing to pay for it.


01-29-2013 09:14 PM #39 mi6430 (Member)

Guys, getting back to this thread. Look at my posts above. I have built and had a pc for my main workstation forever and also have a 27inch Imac as my secondary machine for the past 2 years. After the New Year I decided to give my office a facelift and commit myself to using the Imac 27 as my main workstation and also implement an Iphone 5, Mac Book Pro and Ipad as my mobile devices. Its been a month now that I have been doing this and I can report 100% to all of you that I will never again have a PC as my main workstation. The mac ecosystem, cloud computing and syncing is amazing, simple and fun. I do not have to have multiple softwares to sync between devices, take notes, GTC system, Calendar and Email, Photos, Reminders and such. Its all synced between all my devices in the background seamlessly without me doing anything.

In regards to desktop AM day to day functionality , In one word Superb. Using Launchpad, , Better Touch Tools and other productivity software, which windows does not have, I get my job done much faster on my Imac then I could ever do on a PC. The filing, finding and multitasking functionality of Mountain Lion Os is so fluid and fast that I find myself not needing a 2nd monitor since I can switch between virtual desktops super fast. I will be implementing a new retina display as my 2nd monitor soon. So, yes macs are more expensive than PC but you are not buying the hardware you are buying the entire mac os ecosystem and functionality that comes with it. For me its worth it since it has made everything so easy, fluid and super fast.


01-29-2013 10:50 PM #40 mi6430 (Member)

Yep, agree. Just don't like the fact that you cannot upgrade ram on the new one and no sd card slot. Slimmer for a desktop is no big deal. I am sure it outperforms the older models. Mine is the 2010 model and I spec'd it out to 16 rams. Its super fast. I Like all technology and Apple is somewhat expensive but like said before its the entire apple ecosystem your paying for. If it helps your workflow and saves you time, than it is definitely worth it. Not to mention the Imac 27 screen resolution. I have been on it for 30 days and when I go back to my 24 inch pc HD displays its like night and day. The screen on the Imac is amazing. I am waiting for the Retina Imac before I upgrade.


01-30-2013 03:09 AM #41 zeroonedigital (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mi6430 View Post
Yep, agree. Just don't like the fact that you cannot upgrade ram on the new one and no sd card slot. Slimmer for a desktop is no big deal. I am sure it outperforms the older models. Mine is the 2010 model and I spec'd it out to 16 rams. Its super fast. I Like all technology and Apple is somewhat expensive but like said before its the entire apple ecosystem your paying for. If it helps your workflow and saves you time, than it is definitely worth it. Not to mention the Imac 27 screen resolution. I have been on it for 30 days and when I go back to my 24 inch pc HD displays its like night and day. The screen on the Imac is amazing. I am waiting for the Retina Imac before I upgrade.
First things first: Mac > PC

Secondly, the new iMac's are SIIIIICK, but if you already have a 2009-2012 27" then I don't see the point in upgrading; unless the computer is broken and no longer worth fixing and/or you want the retina display. If you have the older 27" then maxing out the ram is the first step, but you should also switch to SSD. A 512mb HD will cost you around $400; but after I added that to my 2010 27" iMac (in addition to maxing out the ram) it felt 10x faster. SSD makes WAY more of a difference than ram, so imagine the 2 combined. My machine operates so smoothly and quickly that I just can't imagine another computer being much faster..... It is a must have! Also You can always swap the SSD into your new iMac later on down the road, so your upgrade won't go to waste.

Also in regards to a dual monitor setup, I suppose it depends on what kind of desk you have. I have dual 27" iMacs and I don't feel like they clutter my desk or take up too much space. I'm 100% happy with it for now. If anything it's all the other crap (phones, books, note pads, etc.) that makes things messy. If you've ever thought about getting a second monitor I'd say go for it. It makes life way easier....... You can buy used models with Applecare for under $600. Here is a pic of my setup:


01-30-2013 04:11 AM #42 mi6430 (Member)

cool setup. By the Way at this time there is no Retina Imac. Do you find the dual setup useful on the Mac since you can easily switch to multiple desktops.


01-30-2013 04:58 AM #43 zeroonedigital (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mi6430 View Post
cool setup. By the Way at this time there is no Retina Imac. Do you find the dual setup useful on the Mac since you can easily switch to multiple desktops.
It's definitely useful. I like having everything laid out so that it can be accessed easily. I always have multiple things running (browser windows, instances of vmware, dreamweaver, photoshop, etc.) so it's very convenient to have everything not so crammed. The dual setup is especially useful for when I work on 2 related things at once and I don't want to cram it into one 27" screen; not that 27" isn't enough, but you know what I mean..... It's more of a luxury I suppose, but if you can afford it you won't regret getting the second monitor.

Since you want the retina display, once they release the newer 27" retina cinema displays another option would be to buy two of those and keep your hardware on a mac mini. That would be one way around the hardware upgrade issues with the new iMac's


01-30-2013 06:07 AM #44 mi6430 (Member)

Definitely, or get a retina macbook pro max it out and use two retina cinema displays (when they come out). That would be a $4,500-$5000 setup itself. However, I like the Imac 27 for some reason. But In the future it would be more beneficial to get the retina macbook pro and cinema display setup since than that would be the best of both worlds. Great desktop and mobile solution.


01-30-2013 06:56 AM #45 2modest (Member)

You can get a lot of PC hardware for $4500-$5000


01-30-2013 12:40 PM #46 Finch (Moderator)

I've become a total sucker for Apple. Got the big new iMac, latest iPad...

I haven't gone for the iPhone. I prefer the Samsung Galaxy, but for the purpose of syncing all devices, it's tempting.


01-30-2013 01:49 PM #47 andyscraven (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by Finch View Post
I've become a total sucker for Apple. Got the big new iMac, latest iPad...

I haven't gone for the iPhone. I prefer the Samsung Galaxy, but for the purpose of syncing all devices, it's tempting.
Exactly the same for me, although I have a Blackberry until April then I am going for the Samsung!

Hey @Finch, are you based in the UK?


01-30-2013 04:52 PM #48 Philwil (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by andyscraven View Post
Exactly the same for me, although I have a Blackberry until April then I am going for the Samsung!

Hey @Finch, are you based in the UK?
Check out the Xperia Z, its amazing Realese this march.


01-30-2013 04:58 PM #49 andyscraven (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by philwilrgm View Post
Check out the Xperia Z, its amazing Realese this march.
Just checked it out. Love the fact it can get wet. I have lost a few phones to water damage!


01-30-2013 05:53 PM #50 mi6430 (Member)

The android and other brand phones are great. But if you want seamless icloud syncing not the mention great music and camera which is not important as sync, icloud and productivity. Especially if your running on a mac than the Iphone is a great companion to the mac ecosystem to keep all your data in sync without you thinking about it.


02-01-2013 01:56 AM #51 mbhansen (Member)

You forgot Ubuntu! Give it a look. If Mac is a Porsche, Ubuntu is a McLaren (and Windows is a old rusty Mazda).


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