Well...Here goes Nothing (15)
Alright, well I watched a webinar last night on SEO and got me HIGHLY I mean HIGHLY interested! I can’t wait to get started in this. So here’s the catch. I really don’t know that much about SEO. The webinar basically explained how it works, how important your keywords are and explained a little detail in click bank. my problem is...I don’t know where to get started. should I buy a domain name? do I find an offer through my aff network? where do I go? I’m signed up with Google adwords so I’m guessing that’s a start somewhere ha-ha. I just want to get your guys imputes on where I need to start with this type of traffic. the main reason I want to not only get my feet wet in this but I want to start swimming in it. I know this takes time and sometimes months to get the ball rolling with this but I’m prepared for it, I’m getting sick of spending x,xxx money on paid traffic and only seeing little profit come from it, but with this I see it will take you time to get you going with all the steps you have to take with it and in return it will be very, very profitable for you and you just sit back and maintain your site will you bring in money ( am I seeing this right or is my head to deep in water with this view...) so please don’t be scared to call me an idiot if I shouldn’t be doing this since I guess I’m considered a "newbie" in marketing all around but like I said, I have the will and determination to conquer anything and I want this more than ever, hate sitting behind this desk of mine at work will I make someone I never met money while I can be working behind my own desk making MY OWN money. thanks guys! look forward to your thoughts and comments! again
SEO is more work than paid traffic. It's just not worthy if you have money for paid traffic.
You will spend months in link building and start making $1-$2/day
And after a while there will be some new google animal, like penguin or panda or some Bengal tiger...
and will slap your website on the bottom.
I suggest you to watch webinar for paid traffic. 
Totally agree. I did SEO for about 3 years. I will be honest...before all the Google animals SEO was great...The best job ever.
I had 5 travel related sites and the money was sooooooo easy...Only work 2-3 hours a week and make 12-15K each month...and things were getting easier by the month.
More money > outsource > more money > etc etc....trust me...a couple of #1 ranking seo sites will make you LAZY.
I survived the Panda...but not that penguin, and 12k > 500 /month
when you guys say panda...penguin...benal tiger...what in the world are you talking about? haha
Originally Posted by godspeed
You will spend months in link building and start making $1-$2/day
And after a while there will be some new google animal, like penguin or panda or some Bengal tiger...
and will slap your website on the bottom.
I suggest you to watch webinar for paid traffic.
Say i dont have "good funds" for paid traffic, is SEO still somehting to look into?
Your choice man. Buy aged domain with varying anchor text and then backlink from high quality domains and add in social signals. If you are starting out, make sure you select the right niche or else you'll work your ass off only to find out it doesn't convert. Happen to me lol
Originally Posted by jbell47
Originally Posted by jbell47
Originally Posted by paulis1
Lemme chime in here... I was holding 2 of the top10 spots for literally every high volume casino keyword, a couple of months I had 2 sites in the top5 for all those terms... not talking about longtails, but the real traffic keywords like casino,online casino, casino online, roulette, etc. etc. etc.
Back when the first updates rolled out on February this year, everything changed. Obviously it was grey/blackhat, as there was/is no other way to rank in a reasonable timely manner in those niches. I investing medium xx,xxx$ in priv. networks building, an average of 5-8k in SEO services offered on forums / agencies, basically buying anything that was available for my niche.
Did it pay out ? Yes it fuckin did. There's still a lot of money to be made in SEO, but the thing is a different:
With all that investments done in linkbuilding / domains / writers etc. what would have been the ROI / potential I had been able to get on paid traffic? To be honest, given the huge amount of data I would have been able to get, superior to my profits. SEO is less stable than most guys suggest while hard to scale at the same time. The amount of data / information you'll get by putting the funds into paid traffic will get you WAY MORE scaling abilities for your succesful campaigns than any SEO campaign / project will do.
In my opinion, a good way if you're into the niches of loans / gambling / finance etc. is to increase your overall quality by sending seo traffic to campaigns running paid too. In loans / gambling, the quality in SEO was superior to any traffic source on paid from my experience. Use organic sites to spice up your quality / get some free traffic. Building your ground on SEO is something I would not recommend nowadays.
Originally Posted by jbell47
Hence why I have joined to forum to master paid traffic
In the future however I will try and ressurect the authority site i was working on.SEO is a waiting game, constantly refreshing the search results to see where your website is ranking. Building all those backlinks is so tedious, and especially these days as you need a lot of diversity. Doing it all manually is not going to be fun... heck if it even pays off. So best to outsource it but your going to need money for that! Not always cheap. You just don't have a guarenteed time stamp on when your website is going to rank number 1-3, could be weeks but normally its months before you see some profit. Plus you relying your business on someone elses, imagine all that hard work only to find out the next day after refreshing the search results that your site has dropped to page 100.
SEO is dead, don't waste your time.
damn, well i guess ill take all of your advice and stick with paid traffic and master that first. I;m just getting very impateint with paid traffic but i guess thats part of the game and like the saying goes, "dont hate the playa, hate the GAME" and thats what im doing. I think its a smart "business" standpoint for me if i were to master paid traffic (meaning bringing in x,xxx/day) and once i learn the in's and out's of piad traffic ill splash my feet in SEO. I really appreaciate everyones input here, yall been nothing but help for me and i cant thank you enough. So from now on youll most likely be seeing my post in the "paid traffic" area of this fourm where eventually everyone will be congradualating on me my first x,xxx/day campaign. Thanks and god bless you all!
Unless you want to do some real branding for a website / company / brand, there's like no point going into SEO when you master paid in my opinion.
SEO isn't dead, just gaming SEO is out for a bit until the software developers figure out how to game the new iterations of Google's algorithms. There's ways to still get some decent SEO pull without focusing just on your website. You can leverage authority sites like Facebook and YouTube to get some decent placements on Google, especially for local or geo specific areas.
Originally Posted by jimcrim
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