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How do you Know when to Cut a Traffic Source? (aka admoda... wtf) (10)

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Understand nobody wants to out a good traffic source, but let's throw this out there anyway.

Have a few traffic sources I like & use. Maybe I just got lucky or had some offers with high enough payouts to tolerate super-premium cpcs. Regardless, I've had a heck of a time scaling some projects higher.

Found admoda and ran a few campaigns with them because their inventory is supposedly huge and have good reach in a lot of countries. But for me, their traffic has been absolute garbage. Anyone had luck w/ them?

- almost all their traffic in the US is blackberry. I cut some pubids and those same referrers keep showing up w/ their crap traffic.
- INTL had a bit more variation w/ OS/carriers/etc but same crappy traffic. Even same referring sites.
- It's not the offer, btw. Tested it on some quality traffic and it converts just fine.
- and support over there flat-out ignores my request to get a rep. Chicken or the egg... I'm not going to spend a lot until I know the traffic is legit, but can't get a rep unless I spend mid $XXX daily.

The more overarching question is, how do you just "know" when a traffic source is junk?

I know what Admoda sent so far is crap but it could be part of the weeding out process... or it could just be crap and in that case I don't want to burn more money or time on it.

Do you always at least push for a rep to see if they can cut some of the known junk traffic they won't admit openly is "fraud"?

Or do you have limits like a certain spend or # of campaigns you can't get profitable, and forget getting a rep to help you dig deeper into a pile of turds?

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There's literally 100+ traffic sources out there for mobile, why are you trying to make gold out of shit?

The most important thing is to have a good tracker so you can breakdown the traffic and understand why it sucks. Do a siteID / publisher breakdown. Often times a new traffic source sucks because there's a few really bad siteid's that just don't convert, block them and see what happens. Are you separating wifi and app traffic? Maybe there are certain carriers that are messing up things up. You need to be analyze the traffic and be able to block it, or redirect it.

But yea if the source sucks so far, and you can't get a rep...then just take your business elsewhere. The good thing about mobile is you have options. SEO you're limited to Google, Fb'ers are limited to Facebook, but mobile affiliates can work with 100+ sources of traffic.

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Good question - probably because I'm always hearing about how much I need to keep testing and dig deeper than others will if I want to keep profitable.

Yes, using the stm tracker + admoda's pubid & zoneid tokens which gives me some good insights. So far it seems like when I block the bad pubs, a couple new ones just seem to rise up & take their place. Maybe the bad ones have a slew of accounts b/c I even find the same referrers across different pubids.

Yes

Still need more data before I know on the Intl side. On the US side, if you take out wifi/other traffic, pretty much all of their traffic (90%+) is blackberry.

Maybe that's where I'm at. Is a nice choice to have.

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I'm gonna bump this thread out of the dead and try to revive it.

I'm trying to run a proven offer on Admoda and the results so far are horrible - 0% LP CTR not to talk about conversions of course.

Started going back in STM and found a lot of bad stuff written on them.

The thing is: Their platform still exists today meaning someone probably making it work somehow... So my big question:

DOES ANYONE HAVE SUCCESS WITH ADMODA? Does is worth spending the money and cutting the traffic or should I run as fast as I can? Thanks!!

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Never used them, never heard of them. But I am pretty sure your sentence above is not necessarily true.

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Not all advertisers are looking for direct response. There are many big brands that just looking for impressions and don't really give a fuck about ROI, and many ad networks, specially the crap ones, are exist because of them.

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I could only make it work for feature phone traffic.. But they are bad.

Here is what Ralph Ruckman says about it:
Admoda Sucks a huge dick.

Here's why.

Instead of leaving that source to fuck over all the advertisers (The IP Range) - get rid of it.

But no, the dollar means more Admoda than actual service.

Leave the option to remove it? Or be proactive and do it yourself...

Sounds like every traffic source I know of.

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Had small success, about $400 profit from app installs campaign.
Their traffic quality varies from geo to geo. Some are impossible to optimize, some work good from the start.

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OK so I actually confronted the, about their shitty traffic I was getting in Mexico.

Their replay:

Some of our geo's don't work as well as others. Currently we seeing that most advertisers are having success in Asia.

So it seems that only Asian traffic seem to work. I ran a 5 pound test and the results were looking better... no conversions but the traffic seemed to behave normally.

Not sure yet.

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i know admoda working for a few guys, the campaigns there last pretty long, but no huge traffic though.

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