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Passing {creativeid} as subid in PoF - is this really dumb? (8)

11-02-2012 01:05 PM #1 caurmen (Administrator)
Passing {creativeid} as subid in PoF - is this really dumb?

I'm attempting to sort out my tracking in PoF, and Prosper is really starting to piss me off.

I've had all sorts of subid problems, transactions not being recorded, etc.

I'm sure it's something to do with me having screwed up the setup, but nonetheless, I'm starting to wonder - is it a dumb idea to cut out Prosper completely?

I could simply pass {creativeid:} as a subid to my various networks - which would then make it much easier to directly correlate which creatives converted when. (If I wanted to get fancy, I could pass {creativeid:}-{age:}-{state}).

From there, it's some reasonably trivial SQL to get a daily report from each network and PoF, then smush the entire thing together to give me a 100% accurate report of CTR, CPC and EPC for each creative and campaign. With a bit more glue and some Ruby on Rails funkyness, I could even set something up to automatically pull a report every hour.

However, the fact that no-one seems to do this makes me wonder - is there a good reason to hide your creativeid from the networks? Or another reason why this is a Really Bad Idea TM?

11-02-2012 02:01 PM #2 wannabe (Member)

as long as you are direct linking, your method will work fine...and it will save people from one unnecessary redirect...might improve conversions even

and if you are on a decent network, they have better ways of spending their time than going through all the subids of their affiliates lol

11-02-2012 02:03 PM #3 caurmen (Administrator)

Well, I'll probably be using LPs, but it's trivial to use a GET command to capture and pass through variables. Although I guess I'd have to add in an LP variable for split-testing...

That's what I figured - plus, I can't see what my network could figure out from a big pile of PoF creativeids anyway!

11-02-2012 02:08 PM #4 wannabe (Member)

then you are just recreating prosper's functionality...why go through all that trouble? just fix your p202 install

11-02-2012 02:12 PM #5 caurmen (Administrator)

Basically, to have an auto-updated spreadsheet showing all the variables of my campaigns in a single screen. With the best will in the world, I don't believe there's an easy way to get Prosper to show accurate CPC, cost per day or CTR for each ad in PoF? I'm looking to have a Single Big Sheet with accurate creative/campaign name, CTR, CPC, EPC. Currently I have to manually smoosh that together in a database.

11-02-2012 02:18 PM #6 wannabe (Member)

yeah that is a big problem with prosper. take a look at cpvlab...it seems like you can edit your CPC on the fly...that should give you accurate reports.

11-02-2012 02:34 PM #7 Oded Abbou (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by wannabe View Post
yeah that is a big problem with prosper. take a look at cpvlab...it seems like you can edit your CPC on the fly...that should give you accurate reports.
That's a big problem with cpvlab as well... you can definitely update cpc costs on the fly, but it would reflect all the stats in this campaign. from day 1.

There isn't ANY accurate way to do so without downloading the conversion reports + spend reports and let excel do the rest.

Not the answer you've been waiting for, but you know.. life sucks!

11-02-2012 05:35 PM #8 Mr Baffoe (Veteran Member)

You can pass your variables into prosper and your network using the C1-4 tokens

http://www.nanagilbertbaffoe.com/201...-was-possible/

Cost updates are still a pain since it there's no way to change the CPC of a link once it's made.

The Hosted Tracking202 ClickServer platform has a new variable that let's you pass in bid prices dynamically, I'll be adding a way to change CPC for on going clicks soon since it's something that's lacking.

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