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Direct Linking an Offer on Display Networks Where the Merchant Already Advertising? (5)


02-09-2011 08:28 AM #1 Gamekeeper (Member)
Direct Linking an Offer on Display Networks Where the Merchant's Already Advertising?

Does anyone have any experience of this?

I want to direct link to an offer with contextual ads (and banner ads) on Google Display (content network) and others.

So this will mean using prosper to generate the tracking link to the offer landing page but using the merchants own LP display url in the ad.

Will Google allow this especially if the merchant is already advertising on the placements i choose and if they do will i run into problems with the merchant?


02-09-2011 05:09 PM #2 stackman (Administrator)

I haven't used adwords in a while, i forget if you can have the same display URL as others. I know you can't have the same destination URL.
If the merchant themselves find your ads, will they possibly not pay you? Do they have rules for bidding on same keywords and/or placements they do?


02-09-2011 05:39 PM #3 Gamekeeper (Member)

I have been testing adbeat.com - Frankly there is some phenomenal info to be gleaned on there.

You can see merchants entire advertising strategy across all the display inventory (US only atm) they have a presence on, including their best performing ads over time, their best performing placements even down to how they split tested ads and then favored the higher performing ones. In an nutshell you can see what is converting and where. It compresses weeks or months of work into 5 minutes and ideas have come spewing out.

I am just working out how best to utilise this info and an obvious way would be to model a viewed advertisers strategy with a competitive offer or even ride on the same advertisers coat tails in some form with a campaign alongside.

What do you feel about this Jordan?


05-18-2011 01:46 PM #4 The Angry Russian (Moderator)

@ Gamekeeper if you're going after the same placements as the advertiser typically the advertiser will have bigger budget and higher bids ensuring they get most of the impressions over you on Google content. Better strategy is to find "similar" sites the advertiser isn't on and go after those.

Just remember that Goog is optimizing for eCPM so if you're ads get a higher CTR with a slightly lower CPC then Google would rather show your ads.


05-18-2011 02:16 PM #5 tijn (Moderator)

Will Google allow this especially if the merchant is already advertising on the placements i choose and if they do will i run into problems with the merchant?
Yes - google allows it but it will only show 1 ad from the same domain. The one with the best quality score & bid price is shown.

Some people might suggest that you could get your own domain and iframe the offer - but I advice against this as google will use it as a reason to ban your account when they find out (http://adwords.google.com/support/aw...&answer=190437).

Going head to head with the advertiser you will loose as angry russian suggests. Also - many offers prohibit bidding on key terms that the advertiser is already targeting, like their brand name.

That really just leaves creating a unique site that offers value. Have a look through adbeat and do a google search and you will find few affiliates there. But there are a few and you can model your campaigns on those.

The 2 approaches used by them that I have come across:
* review sites with multiple product categories (ie dating, hosting, etc)
* content with email capture but often not on the lander

Re adbeat:

I used it a while back and it has got some immense data. Great for brainstorming ideas re:
* hot offers to promote
* ad text
* ad images

I also thought it was a great way of finding targets for my ppv campaigns but was dissapointed by the end result when few of the advertiser/publisher domains resulted in a +ve ROI.


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