FTC in India for Dr Oz Stuff? (11)

Hey Stackers,

I have been reading threads and articles about FTC after shutting down Dr OZ and other Celebs stuff , flogs , affiliates etc..

I was wondering if they can even think about catching Indians running Flogs with DrOz stuff. I know it will not be that easy for them to catch non-usa but incase they do , how do you think would be a simple process.

What will you do if you running shady stuff with Droz and other celebs,

Cant wait to read more of your inputs on this,

Cheers
Mehdi

Hmm... a foreigner scamming US citizens and abusing trademarks, you might as well be Osama Bin Laden in their eyes. It is known.

Certainly, they can shut down the hosting and seize the domain and get you kicked off whatever advertising network. But I don't know if I've ever heard of an FTC (as opposed to criminal) enforcement outside of Canada/USA. Has anyone ever heard of that?

May be they'll just talk to the local
police, which you can bribe? coz coming personally to catch u is not a single person's job...they need to spend alot more on you which, i dont believe is economical until ur doing millions in numbers, my 2 cents..

i personally dont think its possible, Mehdi..

Sean

hmmmm ... kim.com ... of course that wasnt the FTC, still not sure I would take the gamble

Yeah, the FTC has ways around international boarders.

just a little tip here on this did anyone see what happened to a4d?

the FTC went after the network...not the aff (yet) ....so its a chain folks....if you are doing biz with a network that's in the US (or even CA I would say) ....the FTC could simply go after the network ....and force them to withhold your funds....

and its gonna come down to a matter of scale....if you are on every traffic source running massive volume non compliantly...they WILL find you and come after you some how.....the USA is famous for making examples of people....and I wouldn't want to be the one they made an example out of....

its not about making money ....its about managing risk....key point to being successful long term in the business world...

I actually learned a lot getting sued by the FTC.

For me personally some things I"m pissed about and you really should consider.

1. Investing a bunch of work into something that's worthless other then producing cash flow. Sure cash is nice but you can actually do something that will generate cash and be worth something when you're done.

2. Building a business around something inherently instable. Had I focused on something stable my company would have been 10x's the size it is now.

3. Being involved with something that made me worry a lot. There's tons of super clean verticals out there that you dont' have to worry about at all.

For these reasons we've actually chosen to pretty much stay 100% out of nutra and bizopp. We have 1 offer Hydroxatone which I know is compliant as they do 5k sales a day on TV. And we have one bizopp where my merchant works with our same attorneys.

But anything I look at to get involved in at this point which means putting real work into has to have a few things:

Be something that the consumer wants and provides some sort of value for them without deceiving them.
Be something I can develop a relationship with Google or Facebook or any other traffic source and they want to work with us. This allows us to control distribution and maintain stability.
Be something that is widely sellable at the end of the day for the revenue stream, user base, brand, tech and data.
Be something that produces positive cash flow. We're not building YouTube here.

Some of these ideas revolve around our own products and other revolve around building real sites that revolve around affiliate offers.

On the affiliate side it involves building sites, funnels and collecting data. To build the stability and relationships with the traffic sources so we're not just a thin site.

On the offer side for me it involves continuity in a clean way. Where people know they're going to be getting rebilled and want the products. Where the goals is retention of the users not just getting quick hits.

Really think about building a business and a brand. You'll thank me for it in the end. Putting a bunch of energy into something that only makes you money in the short term with a limited lifespan you'll kick yourself when you end that run. At least I did.

Well Said Jason, Those words are really inspiring!!

I've never heard of any bank accounts raided by the FTC in India if those in question are citizens and bank in India - but as people said you are likely to get stiffed on your last payment from the network.

If you are using a US bank account you are going to have a bad time though. Make sure the network pays your company and not you as well - otherwise the US will blacklist your passport and then good luck ever traveling to the US.

Originally Posted by Smaxor

I actually learned a lot getting sued by the FTC.

For me personally some things I"m pissed about and you really should consider.

1. Investing a bunch of work into something that's worthless other then producing cash flow. Sure cash is nice but you can actually do something that will generate cash and be worth something when you're done.

2. Building a business around something inherently instable. Had I focused on something stable my company would have been 10x's the size it is now.

3. Being involved with something that made me worry a lot. There's tons of super clean verticals out there that you dont' have to worry about at all.

For these reasons we've actually chosen to pretty much stay 100% out of nutra and bizopp. We have 1 offer Hydroxatone which I know is compliant as they do 5k sales a day on TV. And we have one bizopp where my merchant works with our same attorneys.

But anything I look at to get involved in at this point which means putting real work into has to have a few things:

Be something that the consumer wants and provides some sort of value for them without deceiving them.
Be something I can develop a relationship with Google or Facebook or any other traffic source and they want to work with us. This allows us to control distribution and maintain stability.
Be something that is widely sellable at the end of the day for the revenue stream, user base, brand, tech and data.
Be something that produces positive cash flow. We're not building YouTube here.

Some of these ideas revolve around our own products and other revolve around building real sites that revolve around affiliate offers.

On the affiliate side it involves building sites, funnels and collecting data. To build the stability and relationships with the traffic sources so we're not just a thin site.

On the offer side for me it involves continuity in a clean way. Where people know they're going to be getting rebilled and want the products. Where the goals is retention of the users not just getting quick hits.

Really think about building a business and a brand. You'll thank me for it in the end. Putting a bunch of energy into something that only makes you money in the short term with a limited lifespan you'll kick yourself when you end that run. At least I did.