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Top Affiliate Network Ripped My Mobile Campaign (45)

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I have recently discovered the affiliate network I was running a mobile offer through has ripped my creatives, lander and is running the campaign internally on all the same placements outbidding me.

I couldn't beleive it! I done some research and ran a reverse dns on the lander url and it shows 100s of offer urls from the network.

What would you do?

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reverse reputation management.

Get all your proof together and post your story on every AM forum out there.
That will cost them more money in the long run then your campaign was worth to them.
Dont be a pussy. They fuck you - you fuck them back twice as hard.

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^^^ That's the spirit!

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^ Agreed! Looking forward to the WickedFire / WarriorForum link!

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That's Fkn the Dicks man!

Yeah get all the shots together, rant it up,

Heck we should even get ol' Ilya Blt from http://performoutsider.com/ haha to get nasty!

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we are all behind you bro! keep this thread updated

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What network is it?

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yeah, which network please?

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Update: Their network manager has reached out to me and said that the VP has been notified; I will hear back from them tomorrow...

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Yeah before you go on an outing spree, make sure you try to deal with them first and make sure your proof is 100% class.

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I'll see what they come up with tomorrow. But i'm totally pissed off at the fact they even considered ripping me just as i was ramping up.

I've got solid evidence including screenshots and a reverse dns list of most of the domains that the network owns including the domain they are running my lander on. One of the domains in the list even has the network name in it in so they can't deny.

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That gives them enough time to come up with a "good" explanation, so be prepared for that. I don't really see how they can excuse this?

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"We were testing if your landing page produces low quality leads and indeed it does - we will disable your account after the next payment. Thank you for your understanding."

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eeeek

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so they basically acknowledge, that's bad man..

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Pretty much this, but if they had the idea to pull it off once, who's to say they won't pull it off again. The only thing stopping them from doing so is public embarrassment and damage to their reputation; nothing else.

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If this network did what you said, I say out them hard.

OP posted in wickedfire too: http://www.wickedfire.com/affiliate-...-campaign.html

Don't take the bribe money lol

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Gotta out them.

Then they'll offer a non-apology apology about how they have an internal media buying team in place to test / filter out the best offers for affiliates. Their internal media buyer was short on time to test an offer, ripped an affiliate's landing page, and didn't know it was one of their own affiliates.

The rogue media-buyer has been reprimanded and this situation will never happen again.

We spend our own time and resources to test out offers before passing them along to affiliate to make sure they convert! Work with us because we offer the highest payouts and exclusive offers.

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When an aff network hands you landing pages to use... usually thats a sign that they are jacking campaigns.

How do you know the internal guys didn't see your LP on a traffic source without knowing it was yours?

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If i out the network i think it would surprise a lot of people as they are one of the major players in the industry.

The internal team would know the lander was mine because of the tracking domain and there wasn't a lot of people running the offer doing volume.

They can't really excuse it, several of the screenshots point fingers directly at the network.

I'm totally pissed off at the fact such a respected network had the nerve to consider ripping my shit just weeks after launching. I developed everything custom myself and tried to do something different, as soon as the network seen any volume they ripped it.

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so just out it, do us all a favor so we can avoid a similar fate

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How did they know the domain was yours? Did you share this info with them?

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You have to out em for the sake other affs. It's absolutely the right thing to do.

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I have a very good idea which network you are talking about. I was very surprised myself and left me feeling very "blue" and I would "never" expected that from them.

With mobile almost all networks want to approve your landing pages and creatives. I can understand why they want to do this but this obviously has its problems.

There was a time when networks where networks and affiliates where affiliates. I doubt that affiliate networks would be able to survive these days if they only rely on affiliate income.

For some reason its become "okay" to rip off other people's work. IMO Spy tools are treading a fine line. They effectively rip other people's intellectual property and sells it.

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Doesn't Google rip intellectual property all day every day?

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They don't sell it and they don't host other people's property on their own servers

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Just out the network.....if it stops just one other STMer getting fucked in the arse with no jonny on then its well worth telling us & I'm getting bored! :-)

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Having an internal team is a BIG conflict of interest

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So the network has informed me that the creatives have been pulled and they will investigate.

I ran a check across all the placements and the creatives and campaign is still live....

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@nitroman did you notice them shaving you, too? ie - seen steady decrease in ROI of once profitable campaigns?

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this is turning into an orgy fest. i poked through a couple links and mannnn.. some landers are actually quite nice, and usable. so guys, start diggging in..!!!

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I just have to say . . . NeverBlue is one of my 2 top trusted and favorite affiliate networks. I've done over $xxx,xxx with them, and never had a problem. It sounds like someone on their internal buying team needs to be slapped silly (and/or fired). Hopefully someone learned their lesson.

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once a dog always a dog

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How can we be sure it's neverblue's ?

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If a domain is registered to the company name of Neverblue with their canadian address, I think it's safe to assume that it's theirs. Especially if its many, many, many domains of which most are on the same server.

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I was asking how can we be sure that 66.228.113.178 is a neverblue's IP

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Because the domains listed that point to that server IP are clearly Neverblue owned.

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Did you check the domains Dario? If you did you wouldn't be asking that.

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I have too. But I just had a successful campaign that's run for years (and was still going strong) 'retired' with a 24hr notice, and seen other changes in 'attitude'.

Wondering if this is related to NB's change of ownership.

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I've checked 3: duetdating.com, foxy-singles.com , birthdayfuncards.com and those didn't appear to be linked to NB
Then, after your message I've checked again, and i finally found one of their domain..

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I definitely could be. Leadership sets the tone of a company. If they start putting unrealistic targets that need to be met, people are going to do what they need to do to hit them, even if it is bad in the long run.

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Check the 2nd column 34th domain up from the bottom

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well, my personal favorite domain listed in their server has got to be

howmanyfiveyearoldscanyoutakeinafight.com

not only a catchy domain, but also an interesting question......

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Hilarious. There's an EPIC co-reg path on the backend of this... I didn't know NB had their own paths too.

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go direct and shit at this aff network

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