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10-05-2012 03:43 PM
#1
creathinker (Member)
Totally Newbie Question!! Master, Super Affiliate, Click this thread Now!!
Hello, if you're a master or super affiliate so I will get high CTR in this thread.. LoL.. jokee.. 
I have a ton of newbie question, but I ask that already in my mind now...
1. I read on 40 day guide about campaign "to create at least three or more campaigns a day. Each campaign will require about $5-$15 to test." I have some option in my mind while read this :
a. Focus on one offer and test with different angle, after no conversion jump to the next offer then focus on that offer again, and repeat like this.
b. One campaign one offer (three offer in one day), and look for what offer that convert then try different angle to scale up on converting offer.
Which one is the best option?
2. How much day you run test campaign to know it's good or not? and how much budget usually you set per day?
3. If you get a campaign that have potential to winning campaign are you still create new campaign in a day or focus on that campaign to optimize?
4. I have first follow along in here http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...TM-PPV&p=83880 but I feel it's too general.. I need learn much about angle.. I know creatives and angle comes from people creativeness and experience of marketing.. I think this is the different between affiliate who only can make $xx/day with $xxxx/day.. Any reference how to learn this thing?
5. How about bidding strategy? For new campaign it is better to dive (bid high then lower bid after get volume) or climb (bid lower then up bid until get volume) ? Like my second follow along http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...3884#post83884 I didn't get impression there, so I bid higher.. What's that more effective?
Well, that's all question in my mind now.. I need advice from all of you..
Thanks guys..
Cheers.. 
10-06-2012 09:01 AM
#2
Mr Green (Administrator)
Hey mate,
1. I would stick with option a for sure.
2. It depends on your payout, you need to make sure that every test variation at least spends a few times your CPA.
3. Personally I would focus on the winners.
4. I don't understand your question.
5. I would bid high then lower it, so you can get data faster, and depending on where you are promoting you can get the quality placements.
10-06-2012 09:52 AM
#3
magnum (Member)

Originally Posted by
Mr Green
Hey mate,
1. I would stick with option a for sure.
In your opinion, why is option A better than option B?
I'm doing option B right now. Multiple offers in 1 traffic source and I do kind of feel like it's can get a lil chaotic analyzing the data.
My other option was to pick 1 offer and try it with several traffic sources and I guessed that it would just be about the same challenge.
10-06-2012 11:00 AM
#4
creathinker (Member)

Originally Posted by
Mr Green
Hey mate,
1. I would stick with option a for sure.
2. It depends on your payout, you need to make sure that every test variation at least spends a few times your CPA.
3. Personally I would focus on the winners.
4. I don't understand your question.
5. I would bid high then lower it, so you can get data faster, and depending on where you are promoting you can get the quality placements.
Hi man!!
1. Okay, I got it.. I feel better option A too..
2. Hmm.. it's like if my offer payout is $4/lead so I test with budget 3 or 4 times from the payout? Like $12/$16 to spend per campaign, if no conversion just move to another offer?
3. Well, I will do that too after find my winning campaign! haha..
4. Sorry my english is bad.. hahaha.. I mean how you improve your sense about choosing angle for offer that you promote?
5. Okay.. I got it..
Well, very big thanks for answer my question.. I will post another question if I stuck again... haha..
10-06-2012 09:23 PM
#5
urbanleaf (Member)
With to number 4 I think to be honest that comes with experience, start running your offers and see what works and where it leads you, test any angle you can think of and you're sense will soon improve.
10-08-2012 06:50 AM
#6
fjk87 (Veteran Member)
To 4: Think about something or try to think about an angle that does work with the actual offer but still is unique.
Example: Senior dating for people 40+
Angles:
1) Dating for people with serious intentions
2) 40+ ONLY dating, no younger crowds
3) Divorced and 40+ ? Check our dating site
4) 40+ and still haven't found the perfect match ?
5) Tired of immature dating partners ?
I know those are quite general, but it's just to give you an idea. A product can be sold different ways, you just gotta find what people like. While some angles seem strange, they prove to convert well and pay off easily although you'd never think they can. Just try 
Good points for angles are exclusivity, something they definitely need or want to have ( or miss right now ).
You should read the book 'cashvertising' as it's an enormous help to really understand how the world of 'needs' and 'desires' work. Give it a read, I'd recommend that book to everyone doing AM without hesitation!
10-08-2012 09:34 AM
#7
creathinker (Member)

Originally Posted by
urbanleaf
With to number 4 I think to be honest that comes with experience, start running your offers and see what works and where it leads you, test any angle you can think of and you're sense will soon improve.

Originally Posted by
fjk87
To 4: Think about something or try to think about an angle that does work with the actual offer but still is unique.
Example: Senior dating for people 40+
Angles:
1) Dating for people with serious intentions
2) 40+ ONLY dating, no younger crowds
3) Divorced and 40+ ? Check our dating site
4) 40+ and still haven't found the perfect match ?
5) Tired of immature dating partners ?
I know those are quite general, but it's just to give you an idea. A product can be sold different ways, you just gotta find what people like. While some angles seem strange, they prove to convert well and pay off easily although you'd never think they can. Just try
Good points for angles are exclusivity, something they definitely need or want to have ( or miss right now ).
You should read the book 'cashvertising' as it's an enormous help to really understand how the world of 'needs' and 'desires' work. Give it a read, I'd recommend that book to everyone doing AM without hesitation!
Yeah.. Thanks man.. I'm still learning about selling and marketing, my basic is programming so I can handle about tracking, hosting, etc but it just 10% in affiliate marketing, 90% is about how to sell with unique angle... I have to learn much about this!! I will read that book for sure!!
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