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The Almighty "Cha Ch$ng" World of Adult (45)

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Been quiet, Been busy, Been working on a few things I hope will help you guys out a boat load! ! Yessir!

First of all I realised we didn't have a subforum for adult, so I chucked in the media buying cos I guess that's what it really is aye Now we all know, adult is pretty plain nasty to say the least lol, but if you can become pretty blind to the ads, landers and offers there is some SERIOUS money to be made, and all relatively easy.

Why is there so much money to be made? = Insanity Scalability With Ease, or ISWE.

The pace in in which you can blow a campaign out of the water is unbelievable in the adult world, with floods of traffic available at the self serve level, and direct buys can just explode in terms of traffic availability

So before i go into any case studies in the future, thought I would just give a little mill of the run of how I've been making adult work for me, all with relative ease. (Also note down, Adult is simple as it gets in terms of spying on whats out there, plug in a VPN and visit a couple of tubes site and you will get a super fast idea of whats hot in the world.

So first of all, Traffic Sources: (Highlighted are my personal favourites )

http://www.adxpansion.com
http://www.trafficbroker.com
http://www.exoclick.com
http://www.trafficjunky.com
http://www.juicyads.com
http://www.trafficforce.com
http://www.adultsense.com
http://www.trafficmack.com
http://www.crakmedia.com
http://www.trafficshop.com
http://www.etology.com
http://www.wildlinecorp.com
http://www.chokertraffic.com
http://www.trafficholder.com
http://www.gtsads.com
http://www.adultadworld.com
http://www.blacklabelads.com
http://www.adbucks.com

Creatives mate?

From doing a lot of testing I've found that chat creatives are awesome and are my number 1 approach, but another tip is making your ads the same colour format as the tube site that you are promoting. For example if the site is black with orange text, use that in your ads. This can get Ridiculous CTR's and actually has performed well for my quality as well.

Other types of ads that work well are yes, the ones you see all over the fkn place, 2 girls a day (in gentlemen words lol), dating sucks you name it, you've seen it

But I highly encourage people not to just simply rip the ads and run them completely the same, maybe try that ad style, but change the pics up. I've found that people really are weird, and my best performing images have been the ones that you would not even think would work when someone is in their right state of mind lol (with no hormone secretion flooding their system). I am talking grandma's, girls ironing, cooking, BBW's, spotty underwear, anything to stand out in pure shock to the person whos viewing your ads

Direct Link Vs Lander?

In my opinion, lander any day of the week. With adult its quite simple to get profitable, but then its hard to keep quality high. Solution? Simple. Add 25+ to your ads and lander, certainly keeps me going longer on these offers then direct linking and without it. As I stated earlier its super simple to see whats working, just have a browse, seems to be a goo 5-6 page styles right now that just keep getting slightly changed to chew through the burn, as I said, don't copy completely and expect big money, use as inspiration and get your own dirty mind to do the rest hahaha XD!

Extra Tip:

Don't just hang out in your comfort zone, ie UK CA AU US, it's alot harder to make money here because of the heavy competition. Venture into Europe and South America, and suddenly ROI's become double, triple, heck even octople. Simple fiverr.com translation will do the trick, stay ahead of the pack and its super simple cash

Best place to start?

Exoclick, Adbucks or Trafficjunky

When should I get started?

Right Now.

You'll see a couple of case studies soon, and yes I am talking 2012 up to date mad dog stuff

Hope you enjoyed this! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$

M <3

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Great post Maynzie! Definitely be creative and make your own ads and landers. Don't just rip what's out there. You want your ad to stand out from the crowd. Pre-qualify that 24 or 25+ traffic w/ a lander. There's so much untapped opportunity for INTL adult. Mobile adult is hot too, US and INTL.

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This. Adult mobile kills it with CTR and traffic is huge! Basically just transfer exactly the same ads from web (just resize banners + make the landers mobile friendly)

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Awesome post mate! You've motivated me to give it another go. Adult surprised me with how much volume was there and how easy it was to get started.

I also saw the highest CTR with chat ads, but it's good to hear they actually convert too. Next time I'll be sure to mimic the site look also.

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Just dont use the site logos or try to mimic it too much. At least TJ cracks down on it very hard. It explains it in details in their guidelines.

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no logos, just colours

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Good stuff, I had success with mobile mainly, easy to have half cents clicks. my issue was to find good offers. I went CPS with cupid and wow I would scrub myself, those Exo leads dont convert to sales, at least in my case..

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I guess I missed that part. I'll try this, thank you!

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Oh yeah WAP is king too lol, no denying that, just need good offers and be willing to break even/lose for a while till you get decent paybumps

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Wolfpack.

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Well: 'you learn from mistakes' they say, but smart people should learn from mistakes of others.

Maynzie will show us how-to in adult (@maynzie: thanx m8 but me being anti-super affiliate (unfortuantelly) I can contribute by sharing what NOT to do.

I'm in adult since last June and still didn't find the way. You may found some background, banners & numbers in my other post here: http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...lt-dating-NSFW

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Great post maynzie, looking forward to the case studies!

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This is a wicked post. Thanks for that potent maynzie inspiration!

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Great post Maynzie, looking forward to the case study, do you make your own landers or do you outsource? if you outsource where do you find the designers for adult landers?

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Visit some porn sites with US proxy - steal em

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Pfff

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Besides Exo's poorer quality of traffic, it actually has a really rad feature

If you create your own banners in a certain style that birthed from your magical brain, you can get in touch with a rep over there and have them copyright those banners for you so no one else can run Its a shame you can't do with landers, but at least it weeds out a fair bit of theft and longevity bombs on your campaigns

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Exoclick leads dont convert that good that Trafficjunky leads...

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Exoclick allows copyright of lps also.

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Hi Maynzie,
i am assuming you are promoting mostly adult dating offers on these adult traffic sites?

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Yeah bro mostly racier dating, but I have done a bit of everything male muscle is not to shabby with the right offers

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About male muscle.. you use those stamina/potency things on step 1 and muscle on step 2?
Haven't seen that in a while, but (i got a brazzers premium membership) i am not browsing the tubes on a daily basis

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Where do you get your images from? Don't need specifics. Basically I'm just wondering how it works for getting amateur looking photos. Do you just rip pics from some exgf type sites? Do the chances of getting in trouble for using images of random girls increase when they're naked?

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I have been running test around this niches,
but until today I still not sure what's the guideline of testing in this niche?

I'm referring to something like how much is enough in
1) getting an adequate data for testing banner
2) getting an adequate data for testing lander
3) Offers

Or you are doing something like
I let my campaign run and hit 50 leads,
then I do reverse calculation and see whether is it profitable
or CTR, etc. ?

I have been doing in a lot of ways, and quite confusing.
I would like to hear some opinion from the pros here. Thanks a lot. =)

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Tons of them can be found just by using google and bing alone... Isn't that hard...?

As for myself, I did join in those paid membership sites, eg. My ex girlfriend pictures and get from there. A cost is involved here but hey, you have no idea how much time you can save and how many pics you can get from there.

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I'm having a hard time finding mobile adult dating offers. Looks like JustHookUp and BeNaughty are the only ones still around from when I last ran a few months ago. What else is there?

I see a BeNaughty phone # submit but can't find a network for it.

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Mustn't be looking very hard there are SO MANY! haha

PM me, I'll guide you to where they are

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nice post, what did u mean by "Add 25+ to your ads and lander" are you talking about an age group

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Keeps the quality up and attracts older eyes instead of young 16 yr olds looking to get laid in one click. 25+ are more likely to buy a membership

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Great post maynzie, looking forward to the case studies. I've only tried JuicyAds so far and like the fact that you don't have to wait for an approval. Just buy the placement, submit the ad and your live straight away. Just have a few questions if thats cool....
1. What the best CTR to aim for on adult? Is it the same as on FB etc?
2. +25 age...I suppose you would stick that on the banner as well as the lander?
3. What geo script do you reccomend?
4. I'm also interested in decent networks to run with. I've found some really really really good looking placements but cant find offers for the countries of the traffic source

Thanks
Will

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1 - Depends entirely on your placement and traffic source. There's no easy answer to this. On some sources and placements a .4% CTR might be considered good, while on others you may only consider things over 1% CTR as good.

2 - I'd test both, but I think it's going to be more likely to be read on your banner. Also remember there are both implicit and explicit ways to attract 25+.

3 - What is your objective in having a geo-script?

4 - Adsimilis

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Thanks dusklife, appreciate the quick response
With question3, JuicyAds (the only adult source I've used so far), they give you a % break down of where the traffic is coming from so it makes sense to use a geo script to redirect the traffic to the relevant offers. I've promoted stuff where I could put 70% of the traffic on one url but haven't found offers for the other 30% of countries.
Ref question 4, I'm running a lot of stuff with Adsimilis at the moment (tame offers for facebook). They are definately an awesome network but there are a lot of Juicy placements that have traffic in countries like UAE or Egypt (for example) which I cant find any CPL offers for.
Thanks
Will

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Unfortunately in lesser developed countries there usually aren't any CPL offers. You either have to do CPS or white-label revshare.

The geo redirect makes sense but I'll have to leave that one to someone else as I've never done it.

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thats what i found. If you let everything run through one url, traffic that doesn't qualify for the CPL defaults to a CPS which is harder to convert and probably needs a unique sales funnel. I found this out on datinggold.

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Here's a free site with tons of pics organized nicely into any category you could want. See the menu on left. http://fapdu.com/pics

Just part of my "research"

Btw, great thread Maynzie!!!

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Haha not bad research tasks there

Yeah no worries pal

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You mentioned in the OP that you favor chat creatives, but I can't seem to get these and other "gimmicky" banners ("would you fuck her?" etc.) to work. While I get a superb banner CTR, everything from LP CTR to CVR is just plain terrible compared to more straight forward banners. Did you notice something similiar? If so, how did you conquer that? Is your LP also chat-based?

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"Get Laid in One Click" - I fucking love it.

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I just stumbled upon this again and need to bump it out of pure respect for this detailed bauss guide!

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Haha yeah good time for the Adult follow alongs

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That's my campaign..............Adult Follow alongs

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Hows your campaign going bud?

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Only started the campaign yesterday, still need to sign up for networks etc.

I started a follow along post in the section

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Thanks for this post Maynzie. I remember we talked about adult a few weeks back and it really helped how you mentioned some of these sources to me. This just expands upon it further. Its hard to know which adult sources to dive into besides the standard juicy ads, exo, and traffic junky you hear about. Don't hang out in your comfort zone is another good point that stood out to me, I tried those countries standard English speaking at first with adult and nothing hit profitable for me there cause of the competition.

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Who controls if the copyright is breached?

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