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What's your Favorite CPA Network? (14)


09-25-2012 05:23 PM #1 grindhard (Member)
What's your Favorite CPA Network?

Feedback is always valued. Interested to know who the STM community prefers..

-- What are some features you'd like to see in your network account?

-- How can CPA networks improve in your eyes? (payment structures, tools, resources)

-- Your criteria on what makes a network great


09-25-2012 05:40 PM #2 pain2k (Veteran Member)

Ones that don't suspend your account out of the blue instead of hitting you up to work on volume. Relationships and actually useful information are what makes a network great in my opinion.


09-25-2012 05:56 PM #3 allthegold (Member)

Things I care about:

Transparency - Let me know what your margins are and work with me to provide volume. People that hide margins come across as shady. I know you need to make money and carry a ton of credit risk.

Payment Terms - Growing pains as an affiliate are rough. If I've already built up a history and have good quality, being able to pay me faster (bi-weekly) makes your network win on a pure ROI-by-time basis.

Conversion Rate - I've had the same offer convert at 4-5 different levels using the same traffic source, time of day, and creatives while split testing networks in real time. It's typically going to be the advertiser or a tracking issue, but work to get it figured out when I provide this information! I've had a network pay me double my invoiced volume once I told them that they were converting less than another network with the promise that they'd figure it out.

AM Support/Pitches - I've had AM's at networks refuse to approve me for an offer before I told them my traffic source on a non-branded offer. I've also had AM's go out of their way to give me access to offers in my niche that they were just testing internally. There's a difference between having AM's blast my email address with 'hot offers' and someone getting a hold of me on Skype with a new offer in a niche that they know I'm already doing well in.

AM Transparency With Regard To Other Affiliates - This is a thin line to walk, but a few of my AM's do it really well. If an AM is going to give me landers / traffic sources / or angles that are doing well for an offer then I'm never going to give them any insight into what I'm doing at all. At the same time, it's really helpful if they're willing to share data from what other affiliate's volume and CR%'s are. In general, I'm interested in knowing if someone else is making the offer work at scale but I don't want to know anything beyond that.

Random Surprises - Last Christmas Adsimilis randomly sent me a $300 Sonos office speaker system that I love. It wasn't part of a content or network campaign - it was just to say 'thanks'. I hate it when networks create contests for iPads and other gadgets to promote offers. I'd rather them take that cost and give me more margin with it.


09-25-2012 07:11 PM #4 butthole (Member)

everything allthegold said. (Love surprise Christmas gifts too haha)

Also reasonable street payouts. A lot of networks have super low street payouts and it's annoying having to ask them to bump/match it before even running it.

edit: Also bumps without having to ask for them are always nice.


09-25-2012 08:19 PM #5 Finch (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by butthole View Post
Also reasonable street payouts. A lot of networks have super low street payouts and it's annoying having to ask them to bump/match it before even running it.
Yep, this annoys me too.

The main things I look for are stability, transparency and a collection of good offers that are monitored closely.

There are networks with 1000s of offers that have been sitting idle for months, even years. I'd rather browse through offers that are active, proven and stable - than spend time coming up with a campaign for something that has been dead in the water for months. It puts me off a lot of the dating offers out there.

So, I guess Points Numero Uno for networks to take onboard: there is such a thing as Decision Fatigue. And many affiliates are suffering from it. Give us choice. Just not too much of it.


09-26-2012 03:13 AM #6 vilka9 (Member)

One with AM's that are around and actually know what they're talking about to guide me in the right direction.


10-18-2012 08:23 PM #7 grindhard (Member)

BUMP!

These are all great reasons that make solid a solid network partner. Are there any tools you would like to see inside your affiliate account that are currently unavailable?


10-18-2012 08:29 PM #8 nusolutionz (Veteran Member)

running direct :-) can't get any better.


besides that i think it's important that the AM's really understand each affiliate and only recommend offers that fit his traffic...too many AM's are just pushing offers because they need traffic for it. and payments on time..but i think thats a matter of course. + transparency ..if the advertiser/offer owner gives feedback about the traffic it should be passed to the affiliate to work from there. and probably the most important part get your offers DIRECT...losing percentages to 2 or more networks doesn't make any sense for an affiliate because it could eat up his whole roi. and quality offers over quanity. and the we have the highest payout blabla is also bullshit..everyone can offer high payouts if he sets the scrub accordingly..offer good cvrs instead :-) just my 2 cents.


10-18-2012 08:32 PM #9 jimcrim (Member)

Kinda surprised that paying on time wasn't listed here. Or did I miss it?


10-18-2012 09:12 PM #10 keepitsimple (Member)

my favorite network is one that doesn't anonymously spam my whois contact repeatedly begging me to switch my traffic to them. You know of a network that provides that kind of service?


10-18-2012 09:24 PM #11 nusolutionz (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by keepitsimple View Post
my favorite network is one that doesn't anonymously spam my whois contact repeatedly begging me to switch my traffic to them. You know of a network that provides that kind of service?

haha i second that...i'm getting around 2 emails/week from PKM about how they "smashed" my WHOIS and wanted to reach out to me to do business together..funny thing is that the email adress is only connected to 1 other network and not connected to ANY WHOIS of mine ..so i wonder how they got my email +my name. i don't really wonder..i know it, i'm not stupid (maybe i'm not the right audience to target with your spams?) . anyways i don't do business with self claimed hackers so i dont give a shit. we should discuss that further on WF :-)

if you want some recommendations of networks worth working with reach out to me.


10-18-2012 09:30 PM #12 bullfist (Member)

A good network is one that does not pay for offer more then what they are getting paid for from the advertiser.
Look out for these bad boys!

Just my 2 cents.

Quote Originally Posted by pain2k View Post
Ones that don't suspend your account out of the blue instead of hitting you up to work on volume. Relationships and actually useful information are what makes a network great in my opinion.


10-18-2012 09:34 PM #13 rockstar john (Member)

I like networks that kiss your ass. hahaha

No but 1 thing that's huge + for me is knowing a network that does not scrub.

For example PKM,

I've tested various offers of yours against the same offer on CPAtrend,
lots of times CPAtrend's offers converted a bit higher.
so who, am I the affiliate going to go with? The one that's more profitable.


Hope this helps!


10-18-2012 10:23 PM #14 keepitsimple (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by bullfist View Post
A good network is one that does not pay for offer more then what they are getting paid for from the advertiser.
Look out for these bad boys! EWA is one of them.

Just my 2 cents.
Is this true? Can you post any evidence? (you are 100% open to a defamation lawsuit if you make unsubstantiated claims which is exactly what this is) - just wanted to point that out as I know of a few affiliates who opened their mouths recently and then got slammed by the companies they were defaming. Also pretty big claims for someone who just joined and has made 2 posts. I have no problem with people outing networks if they've done wrong but please have some proof, otherwise your post does no good. Also rather ironic that PKM gets slammed for spamming and all of the sudden a brand new account pops up trying to point attention in a different direction. Just my .02, but be a little more creative in the future, most people on this board are a little smarter than you.


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