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LI getting smarter? (can't resize pops) (31)

09-10-2012 11:54 PM #1 zealous (Member)
LI getting smarter? (can't resize pops)

Sooooo.....

It looks like LI is preventing me from resizing the windows (yes I'm cloaking) in their pops.

It works when tested in IE, but if you actually see your pop in their browser (with the B icon) it seems resize is being prevented.

Any solutions? I'll post when I figure this thing out as I know manual resize functions still work.

PS This is the code I'm using, straight from PPV LP bible post (and static X, Y variations of this)...

HTML Code:

<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript"> 
var X = screen.width;
var Y = screen.height;
window.moveTo(0,0);
window.resizeTo(X,Y);
</script>

edit: and if this is some illuminati stuff that I'm on to just msg me your solution and we can delete this thread. :-) I'm sure LI has eyes and ears around here...

09-11-2012 09:14 AM #2 dario (Member)

Now.. this is a Problem.

How did you find out they're preventing resize scripts ?

09-11-2012 09:50 AM #3 Mr Green (Administrator)

^^ He came across his own pop clicked it and it didn't resize.

09-11-2012 09:58 AM #4 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Most probably it's not LI getting smarter , just that the newer versions of browsers ( IE / FF / Chrome ) , won't allow resizing from javascript anymore.

09-11-2012 10:10 AM #5 tijn (Moderator)

I noticed a while back that LI started using their own App for the popup - not standard IE.

Its a separate ringfenced exe, that embeds a IE object, so its possible for them to block certain code from executing.

09-11-2012 12:56 PM #6 ajph (Member)

I wonder if you could <script>document.write('<s'+'cript'+'>my '+'resizer cod'+'e goes her'+'e mwu'+'ahahha</'+'scrip'+'t>');</script> to fool it

09-11-2012 02:07 PM #7 zealous (Member)

Originally Posted by tijn

Oh s#!t they are RINGFENCING!!!! Oh noees.

Also yeah they have even disabled onclick resizes, so autosubmitting forms to resize is out as well, as well as all the jscript I could think of off top (and off Google)... Going to try some funky stuff today but so far things are not looking promising.

Final thought: Fucking LI!!!!! God dammit! Looks like I'll be opening a TV account today...

09-11-2012 02:14 PM #8 zealous (Member)

Originally Posted by ajph

I wonder if you could <script>document.write('<s'+'cript'+'>my '+'resizer cod'+'e goes her'+'e mwu'+'ahahha</'+'scrip'+'t>');</script> to fool it

Nope.

09-11-2012 02:18 PM #9 dario (Member)

Originally Posted by tijn

I'm even more suspicious about LI stealing your outgoing clicks.

09-12-2012 07:08 PM #10 zealous (Member)

After $200 of testing a campaign that should have been a slam dunk (literally any other traffic source 200%+ ROI), I got owned really, really hard (0 conversions - DONUT!).

Going to retool the camp for any and every little thing that may be interfering with conversion process, but man this is quite lame.

LI is dead... Long live LI!

09-12-2012 08:09 PM #11 butthole (Member)

I don't do any PPV yet but why don't people just do target="_blank" with their offer links?

09-12-2012 08:53 PM #12 zealous (Member)

Originally Posted by butthole

I don't do any PPV yet but why don't people just do target="_blank" with their offer links?

target="_blank" opens a new window at the default LI browser settings, which appears to be 50% screen width/height... and there is a delay on it.

09-12-2012 10:19 PM #13 aabdelfataha (Member)

I'm doing almost 80 % ROI with LI right now and i gotta tell you LI is a bitch seriously. It's not easy at all to buy profitable traffic with LI but if you managed to get profitable you'll make a lot of money. They have a ton of volume, no need for tricks or resizing. Try to make your campaign as simple as possible.

I had a ton of profitable campaigns there just direct linking and doing 50 - 100 % ROI even more.

Good luck

09-24-2012 07:44 PM #14 dario (Member)

Originally Posted by dario

I'm even more suspicious about LI stealing your outgoing clicks.

Probably this is just my paranoia, nevermind this crazy worry.

Originally Posted by zealous

target="_blank" opens a new window at the default LI browser settings, which appears to be 50% screen width/height... and there is a delay on it.

I confirm this. Totally lame: if you set a target="_blank" your page will show up after 2/3 seconds in a new window that is a "ringfenced" LeadImpact's window again.

Originally Posted by ajph

I wonder if you could <script>document.write('<s'+'cript'+'>my '+'resizer cod'+'e goes her'+'e mwu'+'ahahha</'+'scrip'+'t>');</script> to fool it

Tried this trick, doesn't work. The new LI windows are a little bigger but no way they are resizable.

Originally Posted by aabdelfataha

I had a ton of profitable campaigns there just direct linking and doing 50 - 100 % ROI even more.

Which network do you use that has still offers that allow direct traffic from CPV/PPV ? My preferred Network is Neverblue but the "DLS/Contextual" offers are fewer every week.

09-24-2012 11:38 PM #15 jroes57 (Member)

Ive never had that much success direct linking on LI, on TV thats another story :P

11-02-2012 09:02 AM #16 indi1988 (Member)

Any new updates from you guys on how to get around this restriction?

11-03-2012 10:00 AM #17 andy_d (Veteran Member)

I would, use target="_blank" to a page that resizes, then redirects to the offer... or secondary pre-sell page, in my opinion.

Unfortunately, resizing the original pop may be impossible.

Here's something I coded a long time ago that you could try as your 'spawn' page from when the user clicks the CTA... (using target=_blank).

Code:

<?php
		$offer_title = 'Title';
		$offer_url = 'http://something.com?c1=123&c2=346&keyword=';
	
		if( isset($_GET['keyword']) )
		{ 
			$offer_url = $offer_url . $_GET['keyword'];
		}				
?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
	<head>
		<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />	
		<title><?php echo $offer_title ?></title>
        	<style type="text/css">body {margin: 0cm}</style>
			<script type="text/javascript">
				function maxWindow()
				{		
					window.moveTo(0,0);
					
					var width = (screen.width  - width)/2;
					var height = (screen.height - height)/2;
					
					if (document.all)
					{
					  top.window.resizeTo(screen.availWidth,screen.availHeight);
					}
					
					else if (document.layers||document.getElementById)
					{
					  if (top.window.outerHeight<screen.availHeight||top.window.outerWidth<screen.availWidth)
					  {
						top.window.outerHeight = screen.availHeight;
						top.window.outerWidth = screen.availWidth;
					  }
					}				
				}
				
				function goTo(url){
						window.open(url, '_self')
				}			
				
		</script>
	</head>
	<body onLoad="maxWindow(); goTo('<?php echo $offer_url; ?>', false);">        	
	</body>
</html>

01-06-2013 06:03 PM #18 rawklix (Member)

Hi guys, I am about to start testing on Lead Impact- could I get some clarification on what exactly the issue is here?

Am I right in thinking that when I run my campaign- my 800 X 600 pop up will appear- if the customer clicks on this a new full browser will open (the pre-sell lander) and from there- onto the offer?

Have I missed something? I'm not sure what Lead Impact has done which has negatively affected everyone's ROI.

07-10-2013 06:50 AM #19 integrity (Member)

Originally Posted by dario

I confirm this. Totally lame: if you set a target="_blank" your page will show up after 2/3 seconds in a new window that is a "ringfenced" LeadImpact's window again.

Wow, totally glad I came across this.

No wonder I started to see my conversions drop after implementing target="_blank".

07-10-2013 07:15 AM #20 andyvon (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by rawklix

LI pops have a fixed size and guys were using different javascript "tricks" to resize the window to full size or whatever, which seems to not work any longer.

07-24-2013 05:04 PM #21 vidivo (Member)

does anyone figure out a work around for the lead impact browser preventing javascript? for example exit pops are being disabled as well and its definitely hurting ROI / conversions.. isnt it possible to hide the javascript in a different file and call it out with php or something? theres gotta be a way

07-24-2013 05:55 PM #22 zealous (Member)

Originally Posted by vidivo

Nah dude they got your balls here. They break IE.

08-16-2013 02:11 AM #23 yaluka1 (Member)

Are you guys experiencing LI blocking you from getting traffic on certain urls? The past couple weeks I have had some targets that give me a flood of traffic, today I go to launch and I get nothing.

I try other targets and I get traffic so it seems those fuckers are blocking me from my most profitable targets...wtf??

Btw, I checked comp (there is no other bidders showing) and im set to show everyday

02-01-2014 12:34 PM #24 catlyn (Member)

Originally Posted by yaluka1

I'm experiencing exactly the same thing. Any ideas about that?

02-01-2014 03:41 PM #25 waltermitty (Senior Member)

Originally Posted by catlyn

I'm experiencing exactly the same thing. Any ideas about that?

Perhaps they are running on those urls internally? LI jacking campaigns........

02-02-2014 03:34 PM #26 andy_d (Veteran Member)

LI have been jacking campaigns and running internally for years.

Nothing new.

03-21-2014 01:16 AM #27 pitboy88 (Member)

Originally Posted by andy_d

LI have been jacking campaigns and running internally for years.

Nothing new.

That is nothing !
They been stealing our campaign's for years and running internally and self targeting. Which they do not let us run self targeted campaigns because they do not want the competition.

If you knew just half of what they do to us you would never use them again..
Most of us just think that its a bad CTR .. Yes that's right it is but because they put links on our landers.
Here look at this !
Here is a example of Leadimpact triple dipping and selling the same pop 4 times using a company called bettersurf ads and a company called wowconversions to do it

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03-21-2014 02:34 AM #28 zeno (Administrator)

Originally Posted by pitboy88

Wow that's some serious bullshit there. Anything in their T&C/ToS/user agreement that can burn them on this? Modifying your displayed ad without permission is some serious malpractice...

03-21-2014 02:58 AM #29 waltermitty (Senior Member)

Well this is interesting. Any Aff's that have a sizable blog following willing to write an article about it?

Seriously if this is true LI needs to be shamed publicly.

03-21-2014 05:09 AM #30 pitboy88 (Member)

Crazy right !
I wish I had the correspondence when I emailed them ..
They were denying it and blaming it on a beta test that they were doing at the time around 4 months ago right around when they switched the deposit to $1000 and said they were unaware of it and we will pass this information along to our compliance team..
B/S

I could only go so far with the conversation because it wasn't my lander it was a friend of mine on a forum, but I was pissed because at the same time all my proven campaigns dropped off 70% so I new it was happening to all of us.

03-21-2014 01:05 PM #31 andy_d (Veteran Member)

Also nothing new guys.

This was covered YEARS ago. WE all know they do it.

It's a bitch - BUT there is a solution.

You can stop their shitty hyperlinks with a bit of HTML knowledge. You have to surround your text with anchors and then style it to look like regular text.

Example:

<style>
a.someStyle{
color: #000;
}
</style>

<p><a class="someStyle">My text goes here</a></p>

..

This will prevent their toolbars adding intext links to your pages.

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