1st Mobile Campaign 2.0 (47)
Offer: Win the New iPad_AU
Payout: $14.60
Adnetwk: inMobi, Leadbolt
Max CPC Bid:0.06
Spent: $198.00
Revenue: $177.10
NET: -$20.90
I'm targeting 5 different carriers and 2 different os platforms with 12 creatives.
(Each LP is based around the carrier/platform)
Goals for this week:
I would like to come out in the green. Also create some ads with Mobfox, Mojiva, and Buzzcity. Getting reliable stats.
(Each LP is based around the carrier/platform)
You also might want to split test different offers on the back end, there's always a few of them running on different networks and switching that alone could bring you into the black.
some php inbounding issues I was having with 202.
If you're losing clicks and having probs, why not just cut the tracking software and try using subids?
Use data passed by the traffic source's dynamic tokens, or if they don't have them, split your camps into single carrier / OS combos and manually pass the data.
So your inbound link looks like:
http://mylander.com/?sub1=Data_From_Traffic_Source
Then use code like this on your php lander to grab and pass data to your network:
<? $s1 = $_GET['sub1']; ?> <a href="http://mynetworklink.com/&subid1=<? echo $s1; ?>">Win Dat Shit</a>
I know that we all love tracking software, but mobile is slow and latency high in the AU, so you'll want to cut the fat as much as possible.
But you're so close on your ROI that you're def on the right track. Keep tweaking and you'll get it.
Originally Posted by tono
Originally Posted by pain2k
Get one (Carrier x OS x Placement x Creative) combination profitable and then expand from there.
You've got this, good luck.
Originally Posted by tono
Stick with it man you're close, my only suggestion would be maybe use some sort of script for calling out user attributes (carrier/OS) and just plug them into a single LP rather than tracking a separate LP for each variable, if possible. It would make things much cleaner and easier to manage imo. Also, maybe try and limit your variables like goodrich suggested. It's really easy to get overwhelmed when you start scaling before you find your winning angle/combination.
Bro thats an awesome start!
Are your banners based around the offer, or just obtaining high ctr with super general banners? I found the later works best, because you can tap into some heavy volume then. You tried fiddling around with your landers to increase the converstion rates, ie colour schemes, images, no images, couple different headlines?
Sweepstakes are still a VERY viable source of income man so don't let this one pass, especially the scalability potential
Spent: $15.94
Revenue: $0
NET: -$15.94
My CTR from LP to offer is 0.08.
I don't know what caused such a drop
Hey mate, $15 isnt much loss here, considering 1 conversion will almost bring you back to break even.
Resubmit the campaign over with the data you've already used, are you split testing some variations on your lander? Are you paying attention to what your tracking is telling you?
Did you already weed out the bad converting carriers? That should get you profitable.
The 0.08 CTR definitely sounds bad tough. However, I haven't promoted leadbolt before, so cant say it that's the norm. Pretty crazy though. I am sure something on the LP is wrong.
Make sure you test out your landing page on the devices you are targeting. Check out browserstack.com and start testing your LP. (On imobitrax, simply click edit campaign, right-click on the preview link and select copy link address and put that on the preview tool)
Also, it is a good idea to split test between 2 different LPs at a time and then focus on the best converting LP. The guys at Imobitrax are coming out with a rotating feature soon but if you want to test now, just PM me and I will send you the PHP code to rotate with.
Originally Posted by tono
It sounds like your tracking wasn't setup properly in the first place which is unfortunate. But you did rotate offers and find one that converts which is well worth the $35 loss you've taken so far.
Hey man , I've never used imobitrax , but give it a go to our mobile tracker.
The first click goes directly to the lander with no middle redirect like other platforms , so click loss will be way smaller.
Also , you can rotate between multiple offers with multiple payouts very easily.
Tono, I use imobitrax and drive volume on it so it shouldn't be the problem. Now, I often get different click discrepancies between different ad networks due to bots, duplicate clicks from same ip, w.e.
Are those clicks and spend you are counting from the imobitrax platform or the actual traffic source?
For example, when I buy traffic on exoclick I often get like double the amount of click count on imobitrax in comparison to the actual clicks in exoclick. (For example the traffic source may not charge you for duplicate ip clicks or such.
Also remember the CPC you put on the tracking can be different than the actual CPC you paid.
Tono, got your PM but cant PM back due to post count. I am blatantly upping my post count with this post. Admin: hope it is ok.
Here we go again.
Spent: $76.71
Max CPC Bid: 0.03 (inmobi)/0.10 (leadbolt)
Revenue: $14.60
NET: $62.11
I dropped my bids on inmobi and leadbolt.
None of the conversion are showing on my tracker so it's been
real difficult to study my data.
Goal for tonight:
I'm going back to stm mobile tracker. (more features)
Setting up a CDN and trying to find more ad networks
that'll run sweepstakes cause inmobi is HORRIBLE.
Advice?
Spent: $42.85
Max CPC Bid: 0.03
Revenue: $33.00
NET: -$9.85
Tried out some new creatives.
It's just so hard to see what's working and whats not without TRACKING.
Either way, I'm getting closer.
Interesting news, I took my LP and creatives; narrowed down targeting, switched offers (to iphone 5)
and ad networks.
Spent: $52.85
Revenue: $106
NET: $53.15 
I haven't gotten into switching up buttons or anything yet; still having
tracking issues. I hope this isn't like the first couple days of the ipad campaign
and more of a stable stream of traffic.
What should my next move be? Should I continue to peruse the ipad campaign?
Nice man. So you finally got the STM tracker set up and running too? A good tracker is key.
Your next goal.... scale this offer! get 1K profit a day with it
You're seeing a 100% ROI. Why shouldn't you go ahead with this campaign? In fact... You SHOULD start scaling this campaign to a 100/day, then 1000/day. ALOT of networks out there has AU inventory, although each of em individual won't have a lot, but they all ads up and you'll start seeing a huge pile of cash in your bank.
Oh, and don't forget to KEEP TESTING.
People get comfortable sometimes but they're missing out the boat you might be able to squeeze another extra 50% ROI out of it!
Daily update
Campaign #1:
Spent: $11.60
Revenue: $16.50
Net: $4.90
Campaign #2: (same offer/lp different country)
Spent: $28.74
Revenue: $33.00
Net: $4.26
Campaign 1 for some reason didn't launch when suppose to today.
Everything is looking good, just wondering how should I scale?
Do I just start spending $100s a day or slowly up my spending limit?
Campaign 2, is the same exact as campaign 1 just different
country. As you see I think I have a good combo going on
but I'm still having problems with my tracking. 
If you are using imobitrax I can give you a hand.
My advice: Increase the spend to 100$ day in one country, but keep testing different LP variations, until you find one that has the highest ROI. Note that ROI will probably get lower with more volume so it is best to test with volume on one country to see how the offer reacts. After that, focus on the highest ROI combination (LP +Ad) and scale to other countries ASAP. (This can all be done in 1-2 days if you can get good volume in 1 country.)
Keep at it!!!! But definitely you need tracking!!! Really have no idea how you are profiting with no data but if its working its working!
What tracking system are you using tono? It would make more sense to a lot of us if you laid out your tracking process, e.g. Traffic source (imbobi/LB etc) -> subids passed in advert URL to lander -> lander has some code on it -> outbound tracking link? -> affiliate URL -> offer
Originally Posted by zeno
I have a js inbound + js outbound.
I see the conversion and sub ids on the aff network but I'm not seeing anything on 202.
So my guess is it has something to do with the postback; according to my AM its fine.
My index and JS page are both .html and not php.
Not sure if this information helps.
Are you seeing the visitors landing on the LP in 202? Are you seeing the outbound clicks? -but then at the end not seeing conversions fire back to 202?
What postback pixel are you using?
For the simple and advanced pixel, you may need to pass back the subid using whatever parameter the network provides for it.
I am using the advanced server to server url.
And Yes, I'm seeing everything but conversions.
Daily update:
Campaign 1: Paused, well kinda. (was suppose to be)
Spent: $1.91
Revenue: $16.50
NET: $14.59
Campaign 2:
Spent: $40.74
Revenue: $57.75
NET: $17.01
Ahhhhhh, Profits. It's a great feeling seeing things come together little by little.
Any advice? I planned to finally up my daily budget to $100 for each campaign.
Originally Posted by tono
You can delete the conversion later by going to "delete subid" under "update"
Great progress Tono! Green is all good!
I'll give it a try.
Yesterday I decided to run the campaign for a full 24 hrs without
day parting it and the results weren't too good.
Campaign 1:
Spent: $16.98
Revenue: $16.50
NET: -$0.48
Campaign 2:
Spent: $68.40
Revenue: $41.25
NET: -$27.15
Does anyone recommend showing ads as fast as possible over evenly throughout the day?
Bro thats so awesome to see you made it into the green! now you know it can work!
Originally Posted by maynzie
I personally run fast as possible because I feel I get more traffic that way over the day, evenly through out the day will though give you a good idea of when the offer is converting best and you can alter to running in that time period if you wish
I'm SOOO EXCITED to scale this campaign.
I'm going to launch with site scout tonight.
get it son <3!!!
What makes you want to try SiteScout for this mobile campaign?
As far as I know there isn't much mobile inventory on SiteScout. And the inventory that is there is primarily from people browsing non-mobile formatted websites on their phones, which makes me think the ads would be really small with bad CTR. But maybe you can give it a shot and let us know how it goes.
Otherwise, there's lots of mobile ad networks shared here: http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...le-ad-Networks
Personally I'd go down that list before testing SS for mobile.
Originally Posted by goodrich
Thanks goodrich.
I'm looking to scale cause I can't seem to get a stable stream of traffic
from just one source. They all seem to fluctuate.
Daily Update:
Campaign 1:
Spent: $30.45
Revenue: $33
NET: $2.55
Campaign 2:
Spent: $51.19
Revenue: $41.25
NET: $-9.94
Damn, this is somewhat discouraging.
I relaunched the iPad offer after being paused.
My goal for the weekend is to find 2-3 new ad networks.
Daily update: (Past 2 days)
I relaunched the original campaign that had got paused.
I call it campaign 3 for forum purposes. lol
Campaign 1:
Spent: $13.03
Revenue: $0
NET: $-13.03
Campaign 2:
Spent: $30.54
Revenue: $33.00
NET: $2.46
Campaign 3:
Spent: $84.25
Revenue: $146.00
NET: $61.75
For campaign 3, I'm split testing 5 different buttons.
Got a good idea as to what works best but gotta keep
test for at least another day.
One of my biggest problems is I can't get enough traffic.
I up'd my daily spending to like 100 and it only spends like
6-7 dollars. I up'd my bid and still nothing.
IDK what happened but it just randomly drops to little to
no traffic.
Campaign 1:
Spent: $19.40
Revenue: $54.40
NET: $35
Campaign 2:
Spent: $5.43
Revenue: $0
NET: $-5.43
Campaign 3:
Spent: $15.84
Revenue: $116.80
NET: $100.96
I can't get any traffic! I funded my account, up'd my bids,
made it more broad, spoke with my AM, and there seems like
there is nothing i can do.
you're doing great man, keep it up. Scale to every traffic source you can get your hands on.
I have no idea of what you're doing here, but congratz buddy, it's good to see some green
Is this your first time using paid traffic or have you been succesfull before with for example pof/fb? Because I am thinking of going mobile but sounds more for the pros.
very inspiring and encouraging to read, im on the same journey as you bro!
any beginner tips Tono?
Great follow along, you've been very diligent with the updates which is more than I can say about a few of the other follow-along's that have fizzled out.
Just curious as to why you are bouncing around between all those ad networks when it doesn't seem like you've maxed out your budget on one yet. Just diversifying? I found that it was much easier to master one traffic source and learn all the ins and outs and all the little nuances before jumping onto another one. But that's just me, I've never been too great at juggling a ton of different traffic sources.
Keep up the good work dude!
I haven't updated lately cause I wasn't getting many views. (I'll post one tonight)
Only tip I really got is to NEVER give up, even when you feel like its impossible and
always APPLY yourself to your work. :
And as for the ad networks, I wanted to give them all a try and see right off the
bat which ones are most effective. If I put 100 into one and see nothing from it
then I won't even bother with it at the moment. Maybe it's the wrong technique and if anyone
has any better advice; lmk.
Originally Posted by tono
Only tip I really got is to NEVER give up, even when you feel like its impossible and
always APPLY yourself to your work. :
And as for the ad networks, I wanted to give them all a try and see right off the
bat which ones are most effective. If I put 100 into one and see nothing from it
then I won't even bother with it at the moment. Maybe it's the wrong technique and if anyone
has any better advice; lmk.
Just wondering how things have gone for you Tono? Ever get anything working?
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