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09-07-2012 03:49 PM #1 cyberwiz (Member)
Hook Up Dating

<Latest: updated on 29 OCT 2012>

Adult Dating offer
Traffic: Exoclick
Country: Mainstream Mrkt

Banners doing only 0.3 - 0.6%
Having problem with Landing Page CTR.
SuperLow. Why?

My Landing Pages:
1) Simple Click Through 4 Rules
2) 2 Steps (Age & 4 Rules)
3) ChatRoom

Is it because my LP are too common?
My CTR is just less than 20%, sometimes just less than 10%
Or it is a norm?


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My offer: Just Hook Up
Network: Peerfly
Traffic: Exoclick (banner CTR 0.08%)
Payout: $4.75


Daily Budget: $50
CPM: $0.47

LP Performance
View: 428
CTR: 22.66%
Clicks:97

Offers:
Conversion:1

Spent: $37
ROI: -87%

Are the senario above common?
Where is my mistake?

My Goal to get +ROI


09-07-2012 04:06 PM #2 keepitsimple (Member)

first problem is accepting $4.75 as a payout on JHU ($5.90 is standard on direct), second problem is your banner ctr on adult needs to be .3 - 1%+ (is your placement above the fold), 4th is copy pasting the same LP that every other adult affiliate in the space is using. Also try trafficjunky and some of the other adult display networks


09-07-2012 04:59 PM #3 cyberwiz (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by keepitsimple View Post
first problem is accepting $4.75 as a payout on JHU ($5.90 is standard on direct), second problem is your banner ctr on adult needs to be .3 - 1%+ (is your placement above the fold), 4th is copy pasting the same LP that every other adult affiliate in the space is using. Also try trafficjunky and some of the other adult display networks
Thank you very much keepitsimple for telling me that! But I have a few things that I dont understand.
1. So I could ask for a bump from peerfly even I havent got good return on that offers? (or you mean get other network's offer?)
2. What do you mean placement above the fold? (Top Bid?)
3. Most people are revolving around 4 rules. do you mean I shall change design or content and everything?


09-07-2012 05:08 PM #4 butthole (Member)

1. Some networks will match other networks payouts on offers. Or you can get it from another network. JustHookUp Scrubs pretty bad after a couple days in my experience.
2. He means where your ad appears on the page. I.E. if your ads are right by the video (above the fold) or in the footer.
3. Couldn't hurt to test something new. Anyone who's clicked an ad on porn has seen them before. They're getting beaten to death. (not to say they don't work).


09-07-2012 05:13 PM #5 laverdureshow (Member)

Hey,

split test other offer JHU is old and I had on adsimilis at $6 payout on SOI when I was running it.

My default range for my banner CTR is eCPC 0.10 CENTS ... unless the payout is really high or the banner convert very well.

EXOCLICKS TIPS : I do RON CPC and than I know form all their site which one is the best .. and than I switch to CPM and TARGET the winning website ...

GL!


09-07-2012 05:22 PM #6 cyberwiz (Member)

Ah ha....Thanks butthole for your explanation. =)

My banner is placed in-vid & NTV A, coming from their premium list.

Anyway I would like to get opinion on, for you(anyone), whether
it is easier to design own animated banner or outsource them?


09-07-2012 05:26 PM #7 cyberwiz (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by laverdureshow View Post
Hey,

split test other offer JHU is old and I had on adsimilis at $6 payout on SOI when I was running it.

My default range for my banner CTR is eCPC 0.10 CENTS ... unless the payout is really high or the banner convert very well.

EXOCLICKS TIPS : I do RON CPC and than I know form all their site which one is the best .. and than I switch to CPM and TARGET the winning website ...

GL!
Thanks for your tips laverdureshow, another ah...ha.. =)
I never thought RON traffic can be used in this way. Always thought it is inferior traffic that would waste money.


09-07-2012 05:28 PM #8 laverdureshow (Member)

depends on the value of your time ... do you earn more money doing it yourself since you don't spend money while doing it?

OR

If someone is doing it ... while he's doing it are you making more money than it actually cost?

PS: don't forget these kind of banner will cost you sometimes more than you think and maybe a few bucks ... it depends on the design you want
BUT! ... most of the time you have to test plenty of these .. so plenty of cash to spend .. and after all the delay and every cost it might not even have good ctr and CR ..

That's my opinion ...


09-07-2012 05:29 PM #9 laverdureshow (Member)

well RON is to give you an idea on where you should test ... and don't forget in-video banner CTR is high because there is a lot of MISS CLICK.


09-07-2012 05:42 PM #10 cyberwiz (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by laverdureshow View Post
depends on the value of your time ... do you earn more money doing it yourself since you don't spend money while doing it?

OR

If someone is doing it ... while he's doing it are you making more money than it actually cost?

PS: don't forget these kind of banner will cost you sometimes more than you think and maybe a few bucks ... it depends on the design you want
BUT! ... most of the time you have to test plenty of these .. so plenty of cash to spend .. and after all the delay and every cost it might not even have good ctr and CR ..

That's my opinion ...
Oh now I know why in-vid's CTR is higher.

1) How much would a animated 300X250 banner be? (range perhaps)
2) And usually how to decide on whether to use CPM or CPC when both available. (maybe can open a new thread for this).


09-10-2012 07:17 AM #11 rockstar john (Member)

Could we get an update on your progress cyberwiz ?


10-29-2012 12:39 AM #12 cyberwiz (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by rockstar john View Post
Could we get an update on your progress cyberwiz ?
Ya sure.

Adult Dating offer
Traffic: Exoclick
Country: Mainstream Market

Banners doing average .3 - .6%
Having problem with Landing Page CTR.
SuperLow. Why?

My Landing Pages:
1) Simple Click Through 4 Rules
2) 2 Steps (Age & 4 Rules)
3) ChatRoom

Is it because too common?
My CTR is just less than 20%, sometimes just less than 10%


12-12-2013 04:19 AM #13 getzlaf15 (Member)

Make your site is slower then shit?


12-12-2013 11:49 AM #14 caurmen (Administrator)

THat's a good point: have you tested landing page loading speed using something like tools.pingdom.com ?


12-18-2013 01:10 AM #15 maynzie (Moderator)

10-29-2012
Ah they were some days for adult marketing thats for sure lol


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