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02-08-2011 02:29 AM #1 sqallpl (Member)
Opening offer in new window or in the landing page window? (PPV)

Whats your experience? Do you prefer to set links as target="blank" or maybe use same window in PPV landers?

02-08-2011 06:17 AM #2 gallox (Member)

I use link target="_self" and onclick="maxWindow()" to call a JS function to maximise the window:

Code:

function maxWindow() {
    window.moveTo(0, 0);
    if (document.all) {
        top.window.resizeTo(screen.availWidth, screen.availHeight);
    }
    else if (document.layers || document.getElementById) {
        if (top.window.outerHeight < screen.availHeight || top.window.outerWidth < screen.availWidth) {
            top.window.outerHeight = screen.availHeight;
            top.window.outerWidth = screen.availWidth;
        }
    }
}

02-08-2011 06:53 AM #3 ppvnewbie (Member)

^^ is this allowed on TrafficVance gallox? I used something like this on LI and first never got my landers disapproved. But lately they're pretty picky if it comes to scripts like this.

02-08-2011 10:32 AM #4 gallox (Member)

As long as you dont resize the original lander it should be ok. Ive never had an issue with this as its requiring the user to click through before it resizes. But if you have issues you could embed the JS in your target page and call the function by something like <body onload="maxWindow()">.

My understanding of the rule is that you can not resize the first popup window, or have exit/entry pops.

But that you are fine doing this on the second page after the user has clicked through.

02-08-2011 07:58 PM #5 sqallpl (Member)

Originally Posted by gallox

But if you have issues you could embed the JS in your target page and call the function by something like <body onload="maxWindow()">.

Yeah but Im asking about links to CPA offers, not another landers. Its probably not possible to open those in full size windows, because new page is always opening in the same window size.

02-08-2011 09:12 PM #6 gallox (Member)

you can iframe the offer. so it would be:

popup -> resize lander -> iframed offer

02-08-2011 09:17 PM #7 bbrock32 (Administrator)

When you use _blank , it opens in a new full size window. I've tested it with trafficvance and leadimpact and it works fine.

02-09-2011 09:33 PM #8 sqallpl (Member)

But from your experience. Is it better set offer link to open in _blank or in same window, when you are linking from PPV popup to an offer?

02-09-2011 09:50 PM #9 bbrock32 (Administrator)

From what I've tested , _blank is better when your page is too big for the popup.

If the offer is just a bit bigger that the window , use same window. It looks more natural and doesn't scare a % of the users.

02-10-2011 05:33 AM #10 gallox (Member)

I'd also heard, but I havent been able to validate this, that if you load in _self that LI will not pop over your ad. Their policy/system says that it will not pop over the original popup window.

02-10-2011 09:02 AM #11 bbrock32 (Administrator)

^^^
If that's true then it's a really big one. It's been a few weeks some assholes bidding on my main domains and destroying my ROI.

A good solution to this would be opening in _self and using a maximize javascript on the onclick event of each link.

So it would open in the same window and maximize it at the same time.

I am going to test this immediately and report back if my LP CTR / ROI increases.

You never stop learning in this game ....

02-10-2011 10:13 AM #12 gallox (Member)

I have been meaning to test this myself by:

1) setting up a LI campaign targeting one of my other domains that has no competition

2) setting up a 2nd campaign which targets both the LP for 1 ad the offer destination

3) Using my spy machine - see what pops up

02-10-2011 10:33 AM #13 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Ok cool , let me know what you find out. It's a very important matter.
Once you start doing some volume with LeadImpact , you will notice people bidding on your domain.
Actually , there are the same 2-3 people that do this.
I've seen on my spy machine that they are bidding on EVERY big tracking domain and showing some email submits and surveys.
I doubt they make big money by doing it ( there isn't much volume since LI doesn't pop double ads everytime ) , but it's enough to kill your ROI.

02-10-2011 02:56 PM #14 MikroB (AMC Alumnus)

You think these are users from Bevos PPVspy tool?
Anyone using this PPVspy? I heard it uses LI traffic only?

02-10-2011 03:03 PM #15 bbrock32 (Administrator)

I am not sure about it. Maybe, but I know a ton of other guys that do have private spy tools.

02-10-2011 06:46 PM #16 MikroB (AMC Alumnus)

Spying for PPV? Do tell? Can you see competitors targets and pops?

02-10-2011 08:17 PM #17 Durden (Member)

I use Bevo PPV Spy and its decent - not a guaranteed money maker.
To be honest, I was a bit disappointed.

02-10-2011 08:25 PM #18 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Yep, spying for PPV.

I am using my own custom made which monitors everything , not just leadimpact.

Anyway , don't think it's going to make you money on autopilot. It would be too easy :P

06-23-2011 12:39 AM #19 lifepow (Member)

i still did not understand how to do it - maximize the popup.
I've done this:

created a .js file with the code :

function maxWindow() {
window.moveTo(0, 0);
if (document.all) {
top.window.resizeTo(screen.availWidth, screen.availHeight);
}
else if (document.layers || document.getElementById) {
if (top.window.outerHeight < screen.availHeight || top.window.outerWidth < screen.availWidth) {
top.window.outerHeight = screen.availHeight;
top.window.outerWidth = screen.availWidth;
}
}
}

then added <script type="text/javascript" src="maxWindow.js"></script>

and <div class="image1"><a href="xxxx.php" target="_self" onclick="maxWindow()"><img src="im.jpeg" width="183" height="217"alt="free ipad" /></a></div>

and i did try pasting the java in the html

<script type="text/javascript">
function maxWindow() {
window.moveTo(0, 0);
if (document.all) {
top.window.resizeTo(screen.availWidth, screen.availHeight);
}
else if (document.layers || document.getElementById) {
if (top.window.outerHeight < screen.availHeight || top.window.outerWidth < screen.availWidth) {
top.window.outerHeight = screen.availHeight;
top.window.outerWidth = screen.availWidth;
}
}
}
</script>

and and <div class="image1"><a href="xxxx.php" target="_self" onclick="maxWindow()"><img src="im.jpeg" width="183" height="217"alt="free ipad" /></a></div>

but still not working

any help on this with a lp example?

06-23-2011 01:39 AM #20 darren (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by lifepow

i still did not understand how to do it - maximize the popup.

any help on this with a lp example?

@lifepow - Check out this thread/script from tjin.

It helped me to quickly test new landing page ideas and maximise the pop window when clicked.

06-23-2011 02:46 AM #21 twoj (Senior Member)

Originally Posted by bbrock32

Any news from this?

06-24-2011 07:29 AM #22 Gonzo (Member)

Originally Posted by lifepow

I just did it and it worked fine. I think you may have overcomplicated it.

Just put this in the head of your html document:

Code:

<script type="text/javascript">

function maxWindow() {
    window.moveTo(0, 0);
    if (document.all) {
        top.window.resizeTo(screen.availWidth, screen.availHeight);
    }
    else if (document.layers || document.getElementById) {
        if (top.window.outerHeight < screen.availHeight || top.window.outerWidth < screen.availWidth) {
            top.window.outerHeight = screen.availHeight;
            top.window.outerWidth = screen.availWidth;
        }
    }

}

</script>

Then when you have a button to the offer, add this to the html so that it calls the javascript function above:

Code:

<a href="http://offerxxxxipad.com/" target="_self" onclick="maxWindow()" /><img src="images/call_to_action.jpg" width="200" height="50" border="0" /></a>

That should do it. Now when you click your call to action button it will open it in the same window while resizing it to the full size of the screen. Good luck.

06-24-2011 08:23 AM #23 lifepow (Member)

The problem was that i had a missing / after onclick="maxWindow()" ---now it works just fine.Thanks

Wrong:<div class="image1"><a href="xxxx.php" target="_self" onclick="maxWindow()"><img src="im.jpeg" width="183" height="217"alt="free ipad" /></a></div>
OK :<div class="image1"><a href="xxxx.php" target="_self" onclick="maxWindow()"/><img src="im.jpeg" width="183" height="217"alt="free ipad" /></a></div>

06-24-2011 02:19 PM #24 Gonzo (Member)

Ahh glad you got it.

07-13-2011 11:59 PM #25 thefalcon (Member)

I tried this on a walmart zip submit and it somehow disabled the exit-pop. any thoughts?

10-29-2011 11:01 PM #26 harrypotter (Member)

Originally Posted by bbrock32

was wondering about this. anyone tested this?

08-02-2012 07:45 PM #27 zealous (Member)

This thread was HUGELY important for me as I am scaling a winning campaign to PPV right now... If you are getting started in PPV and are not using the code from the 4 and 5 posts above this... you probably should be!!!

Also it should be noted that the code does not work for firefox, only ie (haven't tested on chrome/safari).

Edit: Although in regards to the above "Also"... does that even matter? Are all PPV pops done in ie? Totally new to PPV so don't know...

08-02-2012 08:36 PM #28 butthole (Member)

Originally Posted by zealous

I haven't jumped into PPV yet just because I don't know what size to make landers. Everybody has a different answer for What size a Leadimpact popup window is. Is there a general size that most people make their landers to be safe?

08-03-2012 05:20 AM #29 zealous (Member)

My 700x450 almost fits... need to make new landers for PPV cos what worked in PPC isn't so much here. Use PPV previewer in aff tools above forum.

08-16-2012 04:39 AM #30 tram (Member)

I find the aff tools previewer to pop a different size than when spying with kangobox. Maybe it's just my setup.

09-17-2012 04:10 PM #31 jmedia (Member)

Does this open a brand new window when the users clicks the LP? If not, how would we embed that code?

Originally Posted by Gonzo

I just did it and it worked fine. I think you may have overcomplicated it.

Just put this in the head of your html document:

Code:

<script type="text/javascript">

function maxWindow() {
    window.moveTo(0, 0);
    if (document.all) {
        top.window.resizeTo(screen.availWidth, screen.availHeight);
    }
    else if (document.layers || document.getElementById) {
        if (top.window.outerHeight < screen.availHeight || top.window.outerWidth < screen.availWidth) {
            top.window.outerHeight = screen.availHeight;
            top.window.outerWidth = screen.availWidth;
        }
    }

}

</script>

Then when you have a button to the offer, add this to the html so that it calls the javascript function above:

Code:

<a href="http://offerxxxxipad.com/" target="_self" onclick="maxWindow()" /><img src="images/call_to_action.jpg" width="200" height="50" border="0" /></a>

That should do it. Now when you click your call to action button it will open it in the same window while resizing it to the full size of the screen. Good luck.

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