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Should I Be Afraid to Ask for a Pay-Bump? (8)

08-30-2012 08:40 PM #1 nidoking69 (Member)
Should I Be Afraid to Ask for a Pay-Bump?

Hey people, I've read around the internet that a pay-bump often results in a higher scrub rate. I've only had a few paybumps so far, and I suspect that this may be true for some offers.

But I have little experience on this so far. Do you agree or disagree? And if you agree, does that mean if I'm already profitable I should avoid requesting a pay-bump if it's not offered to me to keep my data consistent?

I have a profitable campaign right now that I would love a paybump on, but since it's a nice consistent campaign after so many failures or inconsistent campaigns when I first started out, I'm afraid of rocking the boat too much. Trusted network, and the advertiser seems A++ (consistent EPCs, don't get that "I'm being scrubbed feeling at all) but I'm just wary of changing anything because of that... but I can't lie, even a small paybump would help my cashflow GREATLY so I'm totally interested.

Help!

08-30-2012 08:51 PM #2 bizman007 (Member)

I think you should always ask for a bump. It should not result in a higher scrub rate, at least is hasn't in my experience. It can't hurt anything to ask for a pay bump.

08-30-2012 09:02 PM #3 Mr Green (Administrator)

Hell no don't be scurred, ask for a bump. If you are worried about someone doing something sneaky with your leads then split test on other networks.

Do it!

08-30-2012 09:04 PM #4 nidoking69 (Member)

Thanks guys, exactly what I wanted to hear =D

08-30-2012 09:04 PM #5 Ryan Eagle ()

YES BE VERY AFRAID. (maybe I'm biased?)

Naw, but on a serious note you should ask for payout bumps especially if you are running volume. It never hurts to ask, and assuming you can actually scale up with it the network should have no problem with it. It's part of the game and I personally believe pay bumps should be given out freely as I have almost always seen publishers take that difference and scale up with it.

08-30-2012 09:13 PM #6 nidoking69 (Member)

haha, thanks Ryan. Yeah scaling up is all I really wanna do. There's some punks I wanna outbid =D

08-31-2012 11:09 AM #7 Smaxor (Veteran Member)

Typically the best way to get a bump is this.

Figure out how much traffic you're running at your current bid price. Then calc you EPC with the new payout and figure what you can increase you bid. Then make some assumptions on more volume based on this new bid price. Then approach your network with that data.

Mr./Ms. AM I"m running around 200 leads a day right now if you could bump me to $X then I think i could do 350 based on the calculations.

This is a very compelling argument and you'll get it almost every time. Also it really helps us to go to the merchant and find our if they like your traffic and get bumps specifically on your traffic to make even get you higher.

08-31-2012 02:13 PM #8 stewartf (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by nidoking69 View Post
haha, thanks Ryan. Yeah scaling up is all I really wanna do. There's some punks I wanna outbid =D
Not always a good idea. Whats the effect going to be on your profitability? Will higher bids pay off? You could get into a bidding war that you can't win. Look at your epc/cpc and margin and work out how high you can go and still profit. Then if its too much cut it and use a bit of creativity to find new avenues and keywords, or work on getting a higher cpc and conversion rate. increasing bids isn't always the answer

Still ask for a bump though especially if you have quality traffic. They can only say no

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