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Phantom Conversions in 202? (12)


08-30-2012 03:47 PM #1 theguvna ()
Phantom Conversions in 202?

Hey guys,

My AM and I are kinda baffled on this, I've never experienced it.

There were no 202 pixels placed at the network (c2m) when this originally started early yesterday. First day of traffic on these campaigns, testing about 13 different landers across a few camps.

In prosper, however, it was showing leads. Several in fact. 0 at C2M.

So, confused, I deleted all subids and we placed a global pixel at C2M.

Once again this morning, seeing several leads in 202, and 1 in C2M... I'm splitting the one showing the most leads in 202 to A4D now, to see if that makes a difference.

This is on pop traffic, a new source I'm testing, but that shouldn't affect 202s reporting.

Another oddity is one of my landers is getting a 40% consistent click through, which I'd expect from display/FB/ppc, not this.

Anyway, wondering if you guys have encountered anything like that.


08-30-2012 04:24 PM #2 hummer (Member)

Are you sure that pixel isn't placed somewhere else. Like you accidently copied the code in an html file and when ever that file loads it fires that pixel. Just a thought.


08-30-2012 04:25 PM #3 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Have you ever thought of some competitor trying to mess up with you?

It's really easy to call the P202 global postback with bogus subids and mark them as conversion.

The fact that you got a 40% CTR makes it even more plausible.


08-30-2012 06:45 PM #4 Mr Baffoe (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by bbrock32 View Post
Have you ever thought of some competitor trying to mess up with you?

It's really easy to call the P202 global postback with bogus subids and mark them as conversion.

The fact that you got a 40% CTR makes it even more plausible.
^^^ This could very likely be the case.

If you have the resources you could mod the postback url to only accept pings from certain ips.

You could do it in the code and probably .htaccess (I'm not super knowledgeable about .htaccess, but I'm 99% sure it's possible)


08-30-2012 08:53 PM #5 theguvna ()

So someone can still do that even if we haven't placed the postback url anywhere?


08-31-2012 01:40 AM #6 pain2k (Veteran Member)

Ghostfired?


08-31-2012 01:59 AM #7 matthewk (Member)

<?php
$x=1;
while($x < 1000000000) {
file_get_contents("http://yourtracker.com/tracking202/static/gpb.php?amount=10000&subid={$x}");
$x++;
}
?>

prosper is badly designed/coded, I wouldn't be surprised if there are 0 days out there for it.


08-31-2012 04:06 AM #8 nitroman (Member)

I had issues in the past with trendmico antivirus firing leads on 202. How many misfired leads are showing up for you?


08-31-2012 04:31 AM #9 hummer (Member)

I didn't look into the code that deeply but you can maybe rename the two tracking files (gpx.php, gpb.php).

Code:
Something like http://yourtracker.com/tracking202/static/gpb_guvna.php?amount=&subid=


09-04-2012 04:36 AM #10 theguvna ()

nitroman... an example is yesterday, c2m showing 5 conversions and 202 showing over 30.


09-04-2012 02:20 PM #11 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by hummer View Post
I didn't look into the code that deeply but you can maybe rename the two tracking files (gpx.php, gpb.php).

Something like http://yourtracker.com/tracking202/s...amount=&subid=
^^ Do this and see if it helps


09-07-2012 03:11 AM #12 brian440 (Member)

Yea, it's highly possible and it's happened to me in the past. Tracking platforms never work; it's happened with C2M a couple times before and I thought it was suspect but they are good guys over there.. It's possible visitor's browsers can cause it.


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