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EWA owes me over 26k (34)


07-28-2012 04:30 AM #1 kalel (Member)
EWA owes me over 26k

The issue has been resolved.


07-28-2012 04:37 AM #2 Hannah (Member)

To answer your number two question, if you go back into the other threads of EWA not paying people, there's a lot of people that have gotten the "bank error/it got sent back" excuse, including me.

There's no way it's actually true, unless they have the most incompetent accounting department ever, IMO it's just their standard excuse when they just didn't send a wire.

Hope you get the rest of your cash soon, anyways.


07-28-2012 04:37 AM #3 usernameistaken (Member)

Sorry to hear that man. Those threads about EWA not paying popping up left and right lately. Pretty sad. Always had good faith in Ryan and the rest..

This is pretty fcking funny: It looks like I have no other choice but to contact gevirtzreceivables.com and get Harrison Gervitz to get him to give me the money he owes me...


07-28-2012 04:40 AM #4 vidivo (Member)

Long live the republic of EWA!


07-28-2012 05:25 AM #5 pancakes (Member)

Yikes, thanks for the head's up guys.


07-28-2012 06:06 AM #6 ScottKevill (Member)

I don't buy the banking-error excuses. Nor the staffing problems excuse.

Why is it always up to the affiliates to contact EWA? Why is no one taking them to task for the fact that EWA doesn't contact affiliates first? EWA tries to ignore it, hoping you won't notice so that you won't publicise it and dissuade other affiliates.

EWA clearly knows they aren't paying people.


07-28-2012 07:05 AM #7 extremesg (Member)

If they fuck you around, .... use a different network, drop them. I mean why would you RISK not being paid by them after it happens just ONCE ???

I imagine that Ryan gets paid on time, .... right Ryan?


07-28-2012 08:13 AM #8 macallan (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by kalel View Post

Savy replies to my email saying:
"We had some banking issues with your wires and are now re-processing them as the funds come back to us from the reversals. I apologize for these issues. Please let me know if you get the resent wires successfully. "
I think this is the standard response to everyone who is asking for a payment?

Quote Originally Posted by kalel View Post
Isn't it funny? It looks like I have no other choice but to contact gevirtzreceivables.com and get Harrison Gervitz to get him to give me the money he owes me...
I wonder how that would work, Copeac had the same excuse about bank problems for few months and in the end I didnt get paid, wasnt much but I learned my lesson. Like ScottKevill said, in my opinion if it was a genuine error, EWA would contact the affiliates (lots of them) about banking problems and not wait until people start posting in forums. I have had this happen with another network that wire rebounced, 2days after the wire went out I was contacted by AM to fix the error in wire info.


07-28-2012 09:20 AM #9 fjk87 (Veteran Member)

If you received a payment before, why out of sudden bank errors happen ? Especially to such a large number, to more than just one affiliate. Face it, no matter Ryan is trustworthy or not, EWA right now is not. It actually doesn't matter at all by whom EWA is run, the effect is the same: payments coming in very late or not at all.

Given the rep these guys have (or should I say had?) over most forums, I hope they are really just having cashflow issues. Although it's similiar to situations before with networks that had 'cashflow' issues as well. Hope the best for those having funds with them.


07-28-2012 10:25 AM #10 riley (Member)

I have had similar problems - although I was not owed as much money as this.

I too got that crappy excuse about not working in accounting from Mr Conlon

My advice - email all the "top" people you can find on the contact us page and threaten to blow the whole issue up on multiple forums

That strategy worked for me - needless to say I no longer run traffic to EWA


07-28-2012 10:39 AM #11 meln (Member)

Well guess I should chime in here too. Wasn't owed a lot, $2500 or so, but it took about a month after the wire was supposed to go out until I finally got the money. Also got the "bank problem" or growing pains excuses. Finally I grew tired of it and started e-mailing Ryan/Savy every day demanding payment, after a couple days they sent it through Paypal for some reason. I don't really mind getting a late payment, but I'd rather hear an honest explanation instead of constantly being told they're taking care of it and then don't.


07-28-2012 12:08 PM #12 pain2k (Veteran Member)

"EWA is currently paying (2) affiliates."

Snowman for the haters!


07-28-2012 01:14 PM #13 debut (Member)

Weren't you the guy who posted the earnings screenshot in EWA FB group?

Anyway, yeah I experienced frequent payment delays with EWA too and stopped sending them traffic few months back...


07-28-2012 01:20 PM #14 Jorge (Member)

There has been a thread in the forums about people having payment problems for months, and yet some people is still sending traffic to EWA. On top of that, you can find 99% of EWA's offers on other networks with representatives in this forum and not a single payment issue. I mean, why?


07-28-2012 01:39 PM #15 urbanleaf (Member)

Likewise, I only joined EWA earlier in the year as their reputation in this forum was good, only ran about $1k worth of leads to test the network/payments etc and I'm still waiting months later. Played email tennis with Ryan and Savy for weeks and still no payment, just kept getting fobbed off with 'I'll look into it' or 'I'll check with the bank'.
Was excited to work with them initially but thats just pathetic.

Edit: Payment now recieved in full


07-28-2012 03:22 PM #16 getgreen (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by pain2k View Post
"EWA is currently paying (2) affiliates."

Snowman for the haters!
Awesome lol


07-28-2012 04:30 PM #17 Ryan Eagle ()

I just returned from some time off to see this thread - it seems like when I step away things go to hell. I'll start off with an apology to you or anyone that has had a bad experience with my company. At the end of the day, it's my last name that's attached to this and I'm always around to resolve problem (except for the rare instances, like this time)

Nonetheless, even though I was out of town I was in the loop of what was going on and I made sure that it was handled - our business developer in Spain even met with you in person regarding this. The problem was prioritized and worked out with Savy yesterday (I believe we even send wire confirmation?). This money is traveling to an international bank account, so please allow until early for it to post. I understand your frustation and even though I don't appreciate things being handled this way - the accountability is good for me. It makes me realize that there is still even more work to be done.

To you or anyone, if problems within my company don't get resolved fast enough please contact me directly: ryan@eaglewebassets.com

I'm around 24/7 and I can make sure things get resolved. People can theorize all they want, but EWA does pay and always have. I have never once wrongfully taken money from a publisher and I never will. We have been in this game for years and EWA is here to stay for years to come.


07-30-2012 04:33 AM #18 ScottKevill (Member)

You "don't appreciate things being handled this way"? Seriously? Given all the ineffectual back-and-forth people have had to do, and the run-arounds they've been given?

An impressively condescending response.


07-30-2012 08:52 PM #19 grindhard (Member)

Thanks for the heads up guys, I turned off traffic as well


07-30-2012 10:21 PM #20 darkforces (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Eagle View Post
I just returned from some time off to see this thread - it seems like when I step away things go to hell. I'll start off with an apology to you or anyone that has had a bad experience with my company. At the end of the day, it's my last name that's attached to this and I'm always around to resolve problem (except for the rare instances, like this time)

Nonetheless, even though I was out of town I was in the loop of what was going on and I made sure that it was handled - our business developer in Spain even met with you in person regarding this. The problem was prioritized and worked out with Savy yesterday (I believe we even send wire confirmation?). This money is traveling to an international bank account, so please allow until early for it to post. I understand your frustation and even though I don't appreciate things being handled this way - the accountability is good for me. It makes me realize that there is still even more work to be done.

To you or anyone, if problems within my company don't get resolved fast enough please contact me directly: ryan@eaglewebassets.com

I'm around 24/7 and I can make sure things get resolved. People can theorize all they want, but EWA does pay and always have. I have never once wrongfully taken money from a publisher and I never will. We have been in this game for years and EWA is here to stay for years to come.
Also please get rid of Matthew Conlon, he comes across as a complete and and utter prick.


07-30-2012 11:04 PM #21 richardj (Member)

I can only speak for myself but I have ALWAYS received payment from EWA. However, it has NEVER been on time.

Every week I have to chase Savy for payment. Payment always comes EVENTUALLY but constant delays and threads like these have put me off from doing anymore than three figures per day with EWA. I don't have the capital to cover the loss if I didn't ever see a payment as large as the OP's. It's a shame as they have some fantastic campaigns.

From my experience, I'm sure the OP will see payment eventually. They've always come through in the end with me. But EWA knows this has been going on and still is going on and a lot of affiliates are increasingly being affected by late payments. It's the sort of signal a dying whale gives out.

P.S - On Matthew Colon. I don't believe it's personally his fault. All my EWA account managers have had very little power when it comes to accounting and payments and always made that clear to me. It's frustrating as hell, but it's the way it goes. I completely bypass my AM with all payment concerns.


07-31-2012 12:48 AM #22 aabdelfataha (Member)

I guess Richard just touched the problem here. For me am a small affiliate and i just started to grow my business and build more profitable campaigns on a regular basis and i just reached 250 Net. I know you have one of the campaigns I'm running right now at higher CPA Rate and better payments terms like weekly but unfortunately a small affiliate like me can't Risk payments delays. I see a lot of affiliates complains about payments and i always see you handle the issue but the main issue for a lot of affiliates like me is CASH FLOW. We already know that You're legit Ryan and you always take care of this issues but CASH FLOW man.


07-31-2012 02:23 AM #23 dusklife (Member)

In a perfect world, I'd actually like to run traffic with EWA. They aren't the most professional, but they are very helpful and have a bit of a 'community' feel that other networks don't have. They've also invested very well in offer acquisition - I think this is important. It's a pain in the ass to have to work with a boatload of networks - sure, it diversifies risk, but it's so much easier to handle working with just a few solid networks rather than it is to work with tons of different networks each specializing in 1 or 2 key offers. Having such a diverse offer selection, EWA makes it easy to potentially use them for a LOT of things.

That said, their lack of professionalism really shows in handling these situations. OK - so they're having cashflow issues. The best thing to do here would have been to use all means necessary to avoid payment issues. Whether that means finding sources of additional credit, using personal funds, whatever it is. NOT doing this instantly pops up a huge red flag. Why? Because it indicates a lack of confidence. If Ryan and crew were confident that they would be paid by advertisers in the near future, the aforementioned funding options should be a given. Affiliate networks rest on their reputation.

So, let's go ahead and assume for whatever reason EWA really can't come up with the cashflow. What would be the optimal thing to do in this situation? Be 100% transparent. Tell us immediately, let us know that you're (hopefully) taking actions so that this doesn't happen again in the future (as I believe Ryan has in the past, but things don't seem to be any different after several weeks), and move on. Instead, it seems like affiliates have been getting unreasonable excuses.

I've had a little business before, albeit on a much smaller scale, and I realize sometimes emotions can get in the way and these things can really weigh you down and cause you to act in ways you probably shouldn't. The problem is, these behaviors ruin trust. That, to me, is a killer. If there's anything I've learned (unfortunately cynical) over the past several years, it's that when you can't trust someone once, you can't trust someone ever. Words are one thing; actions are another. Ryan Eagle's words of assurance really mean absolutely nothing. Don't tell us - show us. It's one thing to pay the big guy crying on a public forum. It's another to pay the guy who has been hassling on a daily basis, making threats, etc. I can only imagine how long the small, unassertive guy has been waiting for payments.

As much as I'd like to work with EWA given their extensive inventory of offers and helpful team, their actions would make doing so a significant and unnecessary risk.


08-01-2012 12:01 PM #24 maynzie (Moderator)

Also please get rid of Matthew Conlon, he comes across as a complete and and utter prick.
Really not trying to stir anything up at all, but just wanted to chuck in my 2 cents Matts been there since day 1 for me and has been a really good mate a long the way both personally and in business. Even though I don't run much with EWA anymore, he still reaches out and helps me with stuff his learned along the way and always around for a good conversation. I know for a fact that Matt's helped countless people on this forum too, couple of people have named him their favourite AM as well.


08-01-2012 12:30 PM #25 kjell (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by maynzie View Post
Really not trying to stir anything up at all, but just wanted to chuck in my 2 cents Matts been there since day 1 for me and has been a really good mate a long the way both personally and in business. Even though I don't run much with EWA anymore, he still reaches out and helps me with stuff his learned along the way and always around for a good conversation. I know for a fact that Matt's helped countless people on this forum too, couple of people have named him their favourite AM as well.
Yeah even though I haven't worked with Matt as an AM he's been constantly dropping golden nuggets of info on the EWA facebook group, some of which has helped me a lot In fact it seems like all the AMs at EWA are top notch.


08-01-2012 12:34 PM #26 ppvnewbie (Member)

And still this doesn't help him to get his money...


08-01-2012 05:00 PM #27 dusklife (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by ppvnewbie View Post
And still this doesn't help him to get his money...
EWA has been taking extensive measures to make sure this thread gets buried as well...just look at all the recent spammy posts by 'tormedia' and Ryan Eagle whenever this thread goes to the front page...very sketchy.

Again, I really have nothing against them personally - but seeing this stuff makes me shake my head.


08-01-2012 05:22 PM #28 jabab1 (Member)

Has *allegedly* payment issues been resolved?


08-01-2012 06:01 PM #29 darkforces (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by maynzie View Post
Really not trying to stir anything up at all, but just wanted to chuck in my 2 cents Matts been there since day 1 for me and has been a really good mate a long the way both personally and in business. Even though I don't run much with EWA anymore, he still reaches out and helps me with stuff his learned along the way and always around for a good conversation. I know for a fact that Matt's helped countless people on this forum too, couple of people have named him their favourite AM as well.
maybe but this kind of response

[9:37:33 PM] Matthew Conlon: no
[9:37:37 PM] Matthew Conlon: im an account manager
[9:37:41 PM] Matthew Conlon: not head of the company
[9:37:41 PM] Matthew Conlon: or accounting

is uncalled for, especially when someone is owed 26k.


08-01-2012 06:17 PM #30 ppchound (Member)

This is actually a good thing. Yeah, I know it doesn't seem like it. Being owed money sucks.

BUT it demonstrates the fragility of affiliate marketing as a model. It's the kind of wake up call that we all need to know that affiliate marketing is a great training ground, but not a great long-term business model.

It's time to create your own product(s). Where YOU control every stage of the process: from click to bank. Less middlemen. A vast reduction in being shafted/shaved/scrubbed along the way.

CPA grows other people's businesses. Now it's time to grow yours.

Good luck man. Build your own empire.


08-15-2012 01:11 PM #31 jordan08 (Member)

Same here. Have been emailing them at least once a week and still haven't seen payment from EWA since April. Although not as much as adhawk but still owed $x,xxx.


08-24-2012 01:41 PM #32 Nigel (Member)

resolved


08-24-2012 03:06 PM #33 ajph (Member)

Resolved


08-24-2012 04:21 PM #34 extremesg (Member)

Guys, .... seriously, ... this thread has been going for months.

If you've been burned once, ..... move your traffic somewhere else.
You are all internet marketers, yet you fall for this bullshit time and time again.
Moan loud enough and Ryan will turn up here, and say its all under control, ... sure sure.... But this is like having a crack whore as your bank manager.

Seriously?!?!?!

Get. The. Fuck. Out.


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