Non PIN-submit pathway for coreg (27)
Hi guys,
I saw on the rpu drops thread that a lot of invisible members came to life to ask richard about this so i decided to post tip about it if it can help 
You can check out http://optintelligence.com for survey style coreg path.
Here's a screenshot from one of my paths :
Mehdi
PS : Coreg is NOT dead! 
what type of RPU's are you seeing with this path compared to when AT&T was up and running (With & Without Stacking Allowed)?
Thanks for the share Mehdi!
hey seitzy,
I wasn't doing coreg with SP/GT before, i just started out a couple months ago and only with optintelligence but i have this information from ricco&greg davis, they are doing massive amounts with coreg and have always been using this and since it doesn't use mobile there's no change at all.
Actually each offer the user selects pays anywhere from .10 to .80$ per lead, so it adds up depending on the offers available, it's not revshare.
Mehdi
Any chance you can give me some RPU's from your experience? I don't expect any details, just a ballpark estimate.
Hey Great stuff, thx Mehdi !
Thanx ackbar and MJDUB!
seitzy, I really don't wanna mislead anyone cause my volume is so low i don't think it means anything yet, i'll post about it when I hit first millenium
Mehdi
Hey, thank you for that! I try this for sure!
I was just looking for this! Thanks Mehdi!
edit: Is Richard suggesting the same path?
Thanks Mehdi btw do those network accept that kind of marketing? It does look kinda aggresive.
Johnny
Mehdi, this is exactly right! It's essentially offer stacking.
But there's slightly more to it than this if you want to scale it up big time. I'm putting together an in-depth case study for all you guys here that will reiterate all these points below and add more insight than I have time to give out now.
Here are the need-to-knows:
1) You get advertisers to buy co-reg leads on your path (tick-box single opt-in stuff). You can be paid anywhere from 20p to £5 depending on how many data fields - £5 will be accident claim / finance offers with up to 3 pre-qualifying questions. These deals are normally done direct. If you go through a co-reg broker, you probably won't make enough money to be profitable. However, this can be a good way to get started.
2) You have several pages of offers. 1 will not be enough to be profitable. These pages of offers can also be disguised as survey questions and your opt-ins will sky-rocket. But never forget, you are working direct here, probably with 20+ advertisers, and you need to ensure quality is tight. As a new supplier, they will monitor you like a hawk, but as with all lead gen - some advertisers more than others.
3) You HAVE to rank your offers according to your yield of each offer on the path so the best yielding offers get the most presence. To do this properly you require a COMPLEX algorithm on the back-end which works out how much you earn per offer and automatically ranks the offer which you have made the most money from, right at the top. Sounds simple right? Not so much. Offers typically yield less the lower they are down the pecking order, so to counteract this, you need to test each offer initially in the same position.
4) How many offers you should have? Doesn't matter. As many as you need to get profitable. You will spend a lot of money testing this. Even more importantly, you will spend a lot of time testing these, setting these up and implementing.
5) How do you find these offers? It's actually pretty easy, you will have to spy on other coreg sites. You will also have to spend a lot of time digging up where to find these offers and even hammer the phones until you find the right person.
OK, so the bad news and the good news.
Bad News:
Sounds like a lot of work, right? It is. This is more than a full-time job. I know companies doing this model who turn over millions and have an office full of people.
For every offer, you will have to create IO's, invoices and be responsive to your advertisers and you can't shaft them and give them shitty quality - these are your clients and you won't last 2 weeks. They are paying to be on your path, so you need to call and communicate with them. You certainly won't be paid weekly, if net 30. I know some advertisers paying net 60. In short, you need a hefty chunk of capital to get started. I wouldn't have been able to do this myself, I am only managing this process for another company which is financially backed.
Good News:
Co-reg is definitely not dead. It's been going for years and will be going on for many, many more.
I've seen some days which have hit $1+ on the path in the UK.
We are producing a white-label version you will be able to simply stick on the back-end just like GT and SP. This is going to be released later in the year. We will be able to pay monthly. But we are only operating in the UK currently.
P.S - Sorry to all of you who sent me PM's and I didn't get back to you - I had an overwhelming response and I've had a lot of personal shit to deal with recently.
@johnnygood - All co-reg is aggressive. It's certainly less aggressive than PIN submit co-reg. And gets a lot less complaints from users.
Originally Posted by bluebox
Originally Posted by mehdi
Thanx richard for the clarification and details
I'll wait to see how that goes with OI and then take it from there, however i'm pretty confident it will be okey since I know people that are doing a lot of money like this without going direct (yet) , it's possible.
Mehdi
I'm sure you can make good money with OI. Are you just running these offers on the back of a gift card offer or similar?
Please let us all know how you go with OptIntelligence.
I found the coreg networks like OI tend to be quite heavy handed with scrubbing. Whether this is to increase their margins (brokering coreg offers gets really slim margins) or just the advertisers, I've never been sure. I've never used OI though, so they may be different. I'll sign up and let you know my thoughts.
Running brokered offers can still make you profit, but as with anything, direct is always much more profitable - rate increases, etc. However, if you think your traffic quality is shitty I would suggest running brokered offers as your traffic just gets bunched in with everyone else's. Bad quality won't get you very far in coreg anyway.
Thanks for revealing this guys, definitely some gold here!
How is it going with OI, Mehdi? Did you get it profitable?
Do they have a mobile versions as well?
This is real co-reg. The other was just a mobile pin submit after a lander.
@bluebox : following up on the questions i had here about OI's performance i split tested it with SP on one path (around 300users), and OI does a lot better ! I don't know if it's the way the path is built but i hit some historical RPU on SP .. like .0x$ :/
Don't take this to the letter, i was completely expecting OI to perform here because it's congruent with my path and offer, and makes a lot more sense than random mobile pin submits for games etc ..
@nickster : no they don't do mobile, or at least i believe they don't.
@smaxor : exactly
Mehdi
Would OI be safe to use on Facebook?
I have seen host and post co-registration paths on FB Ads in the UK - no cloaking, 100% legit. So you can definitely get away with it. For how long, I don't know? Never tried. May as well give it a go.
Thanks. I know the mobile paths get you banned, so it must be the pin submits that are the issue then.
Originally Posted by jarad12
However, host and post co-reg just seems like a mild annoyance. You'd definitely get a lot less user complaints with the latter.
Has anyone gotten successfully paid by these guys yet? I was told their payment terms are pretty wild, net 45, with little exceptions (coming from the mouth of one of their sales managers).
Net 45 isn't suprising at all here.
Think about it like this. They're selling lead data and most lead data partners are going to get quality reports back to you on a monthly net 15 basis. Typical lead companies scrub leads out of things like bad phone or email address. They're buying data so if they can't talk with them then the data is worthless and they're not going to pay for it.
Then they're going to pay on a monthly net 30 basis.
So therefore OI can't really pay you until net 45 once they have everything reconciled.
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