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07-11-2012 12:46 PM #1 Connaissance (Member)
Epic Media Buy Thread Is Epic.

Media Buy Whale starts an "Ask Me Anything" in poker forum.

Epic thread ensues.

Strongly recommended read. Get comfortable because it's a long-ass one, but it's worth it.

(better hit THANKS, bitches!)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/30...-amaa-1208283/

07-11-2012 02:13 PM #2 Loffy (Member)

Interesting read, thx

07-11-2012 04:57 PM #3 flowmotion (Member)

Haha I like how he posts in a poker forum instead of IM forums to filter out all the "kids", and have more quality people reply.

Thanks for sharing man, that's good reading for sure

07-11-2012 05:31 PM #4 Connaissance (Member)

It sure makes for the occasional fun noob question, too..

My favorite was "how do you track the people who click, is it based on trust and do they report back to you?"

07-11-2012 06:10 PM #5 dusklife (Member)

Originally Posted by flowmotion

Haha I like how he posts in a poker forum instead of IM forums to filter out all the "kids", and have more quality people reply.

I think that's actually a pretty warranted rationale. The maturity level and intelligence of the posters over at twoplustwo is pretty high.

It's a very inspiring thread.

On another note, it's funny to see one of the old TV.bz crew members here on STM

07-11-2012 07:13 PM #6 flowmotion (Member)

Yeah I know, they're asking some good questions

07-11-2012 07:40 PM #7 macallan (Member)

Nice topic, he seems to know his shit.

Originally Posted by dusklife

On another note, it's funny to see one of the old TV.bz crew members here on STM

TV.bz oh good ol times, well still good times

07-12-2012 05:09 PM #8 nusolutionz (Veteran Member)

golden thread..i wonder if he is a STM member :-)

07-12-2012 06:09 PM #9 godspeed (Member)

Can we get this guy here? Make him a mod or something?

Good read.

07-12-2012 06:58 PM #10 Connaissance (Member)

I wanted to PM him to invite him over, but I don't have enough posts there to PM.

07-12-2012 08:26 PM #11 kokofai ()

"First, I do my research on the demographic on a certain site:

quancast, alexa, compete

then I start small on it(24h out clauses on the IO - means even if I give them 10k for a buy, I can pull what's left of money with a 24hours notice). Or if I'm running through an ad network, I start spending like $100/day and see how are the click throughs and the conversions on the landing page i'm sending them to. Then I start to optimize. Once I'm profitable, I scale. And scale, and scale, and scale. Buying more and finding more placements."

This is really, really, really true.

07-12-2012 10:47 PM #12 andyvon (AMC Alumnus)

Thanks for posting that link. Pretty funny as I frequent the 2+2 forums and didn't notice it...

Edit: Just sent him a PM regarding getting him over here, will let you guys know if he gets in touch with me.

07-13-2012 03:42 AM #13 johnaff (AMC Alumnus)

pretty down and dirty stuff. Very interesting how he runs his own forms and basically API's the information into the offer. I've seen a few guys doing that these days. There's definitely a lot more 'ownership' of the information generated that way, which I believe, is ultimately the route that any smart media buyer moves to.

07-13-2012 04:41 AM #14 theguvna ()

Lol good to know he thinks acai is shady but payday loans are all good

07-18-2012 11:39 PM #15 andyvon (AMC Alumnus)

He contacted me over at 2+2 and told me that he would be happy to join and discuss future plans, any admin that can send him some kind of trial invite?

07-20-2012 07:46 AM #16 harrypotter (Member)

that thread is sick...

07-20-2012 11:19 AM #17 x3m_ (Member)

sup?

07-20-2012 11:34 AM #18 tap1on (Member)

the man, the myth, the legend has arrived

07-20-2012 11:52 AM #19 mike05 (Member)

That was a really great thread! Welcome X3m_ !

07-20-2012 11:57 AM #20 x3m_ (Member)

Originally Posted by theguvna

Lol good to know he thinks acai is shady but payday loans are all good

Paydays aren't exactly the perfect example of a consumer friendly product, but at least it isn't a rebill, which will not honor cancels, because the owner will go bankrupt otherwise. Also the advertisers do not disappear with the money owed to networks, and getting them to close shop, leaving millions of dollars in debts to affiliates.

07-20-2012 01:00 PM #21 wannabe (Member)

Welcome Sir

Your thread motivated me to make my first deposit at sitescout!

07-20-2012 01:48 PM #22 darkforces (Member)

Gotta say some of the questions those guys were asking in that forum were absolute corkers. Reminds me of a Piers Morgan interview.

07-20-2012 03:27 PM #23 theguvna ()

You can run a legit rebill... Paydays are always parasitic though.

Anyway man i was just messin around, all good... Welcome to the forum, that was a nice thread.

07-20-2012 09:26 PM #24 tate (Member)

welcome to stm. Many thanks to making that post on the poker forum. Really good stuff.

07-20-2012 10:59 PM #25 godspeed (Member)

Originally Posted by x3m_

sup?

Welcome, enjoyed reading your thread.

07-21-2012 05:24 AM #26 fakeid (Member)

Originally Posted by ballistic10;

ppccoach - complete crap

sixmonthsfromtoday - uber crap.

Sure is true.

07-24-2012 09:07 PM #27 x3m_ (Member)

I cannot PM here yet, and I don't feel like spamming for 10 posts, so everyone who PMed me, PM me again with your email, so I can reply to you.

07-25-2012 02:05 AM #28 kokofai ()

Originally Posted by x3m_

I cannot PM here yet, and I don't feel like spamming for 10 posts, so everyone who PMed me, PM me again with your email, so I can reply to you.

Hey man thanks for joining here!

So I assume that the thread at the poker forum has been brought over to here and we can ask questions and you'll be more than happy to answer that?

By the way, impressive thread there mate!

07-25-2012 02:56 AM #29 wyffgoal (Member)

@x3m_

What about creating another exclusive thread here on STM? It will have so much love toward that!

Thanks!

07-25-2012 07:14 AM #30 harrypotter (Member)

Originally Posted by x3m_

I cannot PM here yet, and I don't feel like spamming for 10 posts, so everyone who PMed me, PM me again with your email, so I can reply to you.

hey man...

the patience you showed in your thread to ALL the questions is the definition of class.

MAD props.

07-25-2012 07:57 AM #31 Connaissance (Member)

Welcome man :-) I'll have one more question soon, will post in the original thread to save you time. Gained a lot from your insights, big thanks.

07-25-2012 08:30 AM #32 harrypotter (Member)

What I'm making is teaching you how to optimize your buys using calculations and statistic methods. This alone will not make you money. But it will enable you to adjust accordingly to data you already have. This stuff will not stop being accurate or helpful in a month or in a year or in 5 years. It's universal.

IF anyone wants a link, PM me, if you don't have PMs yet, post an email and I will contact you.

It's not an exact plan on how to make money, but a peek on how I optimize my buys in order to get profitable. And you will get a Q&A and skype chats for a few weeks to ask me anything related to the webinar.

source = http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=245

^^ always looking to learn! when is this happening?

07-25-2012 04:41 PM #33 x3m_ (Member)

Originally Posted by kokofai

Originally Posted by wyffgoal

@x3m_

What about creating another exclusive thread here on STM? It will have so much love toward that!

Thanks!

I figured this thread will serve this purpose. That is why I joined the forum. Perhaps getting answered some more technical questions, as this is a more focused forum and people who are already in the space are here.

07-25-2012 04:44 PM #34 x3m_ (Member)

Originally Posted by harrypotter

source = http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=245

^^ always looking to learn! when is this happening?

Monday, July 30th.

07-27-2012 02:26 AM #35 harrypotter (Member)

pm sent

07-29-2012 05:58 AM #36 tonyt2929 (Member)

Respect to x3m, your tips on promoting your own offer made me rethink strategies. would love to learn more :-)

07-31-2012 06:06 PM #37 caleb (Senior Member)

Originally Posted by x3m_

Monday, July 30th.

cant wait

08-27-2012 10:52 AM #38 ppvnewbie (Member)

so 4 weeks later nobody reported back...was it THAT bad?

08-27-2012 02:40 PM #39 caleb (Senior Member)

Did this even happen? I think I pm'd him and said I was interested, I never heard anything.

02-15-2014 10:28 PM #40 beastmode (Member)

Are you coming to the STM meetup in BKK?

I even joined that poker forum to try and get a hold of you after reading EVERY PAGE OF THAT THREAD.

02-15-2014 11:04 PM #41 beastmode (Member)

He didn't have enough posts to PM back, so he said in this thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/30...3/index28.html

I hope he does now!

02-15-2014 11:10 PM #42 beastmode (Member)

Also, if you keep following that thread to the end, there are haters that will always hate. So don't take every accusation you read online seriously.... there are some people that no matter how much you hold their hand will fail and then blame you for it.

02-20-2014 05:12 AM #43 vidivo (Member)

That ballistic guy only did that AMA in order to try and pimp people for his webinar. Call it a scam or not but those that ( well most) cant do, teach. Also he said he let his friend use his wickedfire account? Please I call that a bluff. Regardless the info that he told was for the most part legit and definitely a good starting point for people even if it had other motives..

11-16-2015 03:02 PM #44 spartanen (Member)

Goddamn great post! Still reading... its alot but great info!!

11-16-2015 10:31 PM #45 spartanen (Member)

Quistion... He is saying that you have to update banners/LP almost weekly. he is saying because its gettin gold quick. But how is that possible? I can understand it if the same people/potential clickers are looking but not if there are always new people and its your design banner/LP and no ripp off. Anyone have a answer ?

11-17-2015 07:11 AM #46 mr_smiley (Member)

i.e. in the past I would run an ad for a weight loss rebill on a certain traffic source. Now, I try to run a lead generation field and sell the info to a real world dietologist who will contact them.

It has some serious advantages. First I, don't have an "offer" to run, because that is my offer and I control it. 2nd I really help the people and help a real world business, not some sneaky pill maker that just cheats people.

The rule is - the more control you have of the funnel - the better. As an affiliate you have very little control and you get somewhat little peace of the pie. That is why I(and most smart people) try to escape from the affiliate route and networks.

This is what I want to know. How do you go about doing that?

11-17-2015 02:08 PM #47 spartanen (Member)

Can someone anser this please:

Quistion... He is saying that you have to update banners/LP almost weekly. he is saying because its gettin gold quick. But how is that possible? I can understand it if the same people/potential clickers are looking but not if there are always new people and its your design banner/LP and no ripp off. Anyone have a answer ?

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