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Mobile tracking options. (50)


06-27-2012 03:32 AM #1 bunchie (Member)
Mobile tracking options.

http://www.imobitrax.com/

Even though the IMGrind hype/spam machine somewhat repulses me, I bought their latest mobile tracking software and it's proved to be excellent so far - extremely fast, self-hosted, tons of features and has already paid for itself helping me drill down on some handset statistics....

Did anyone else pick this up? Seems to the possibly the best mobile tracking solution out there right now and price wasn't too bad IMO.. thoughts?


06-27-2012 04:07 AM #2 joejoechen (Member)

well the price is good.

i got it too, quite some awesome piece of tracker, which does ALOT of what other trackers don't. One thing i love is the "automatic device tracking", you don't need a parameter from the Advertising network to see which clicks come from what devices. Definitely made it easier to optimize your shit because in the end you can just "sort by" the highest ROI device and run a new campaign on them (which i did, but due to some weird reasons, my new campaign loss even more in terms of ROI when i'm targeting JUST the exact profitable devices i tracked down from my previous camp) haha.

HOWEVER. there's a big issue here too. You can't track carriers.

To me, carrier has been a really big piece of puzzle. Unless your advertising network has a carrier parameter or else you'll have to launch mini campaigns on a couple carriers to test things out efficiently.

OH and i'm seeing click loss too (5-10%). Don't know if it's my server or what though...

But, it's just launched to the public quite recently and i certainly don't wanna tell it off so quickly right here. I'm going to write in to Ryan, the owner, and ask about some missing features so hopefully we will be able to rock our camps ASAP!

UPDATE:
I emailed ryan about the carrier tracking issue. What he said, it's all already tracking just not yet viewable on the platform. will be implemented in the weekend. Let's see.


06-27-2012 11:39 AM #3 bunchie (Member)

Yes carrier will be added in the next 2-3 days I believe they were just collecting user data for a week or so to complete and validate their database to make sure it was accurate.

Definitely a necessary addition.

I am also seeing about 3 - 5% click loss that that is NOTHING compared to what I was seeing with other tracking solutions and an acceptable level to me (I see upwards of 10-15% on Lead Impact with PPV for example)


06-27-2012 02:25 PM #4 MrGoogle (Member)

What kind of hosting do you guys use?
Is BH's VPS good enough or do I need to get dedicated server for this tracker?


06-27-2012 03:14 PM #5 The Angry Russian (Moderator)

Or you can just use our tracker for FREE which is 10 times more powerful, has "rule based" redirects and tracks carrier/handsets and more automatically, universal pixels, network postback, 5 subid placeholder... whew running out of breath

http://www.mobafftracker.com


06-27-2012 03:25 PM #6 pain2k (Veteran Member)

Well it's just the issue of being self hosted. I prefer mobaff but I just like stuff on my own box.


06-27-2012 05:09 PM #7 bunchie (Member)

I'm using a Beyond Hosting dedicated server with SSD - blazing fast.

Yup same issue for me..... I'll always go self-hosted > non self-hosted on any day of the week.

Plus as far as I'm aware MobAff tracker is only provided for active Mob Aff affiliates... no? At least that used to be the case...


06-27-2012 05:31 PM #8 ianz63 (Member)

http://phase2.mobafftracker.com/login won't even load for me - would much prefer a self-hosted option and would pay for it too

EDIT: it finally loaded so I signed up - please activate. thanks bud!


06-27-2012 10:17 PM #9 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Another option for people wanting a cheap self hosted solution.

Just get a few mods done for 202, to track carriers and handsets (shouldn't cost anymore than $200).

Once you optimize, then drop the tracking all together, that will insure the least amount of redirects possible.

It's cheap , secure , and you have access to 100% of unencrypted code.

Actually I might just get one coded and give it for free for STM.


06-27-2012 10:46 PM #10 dubbsy (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by bbrock32 View Post

Actually I might just get one coded and give it for free for STM.
I will name my first born, girl/guy/adopted, Besmir or Bbrock whichever you prefer


06-28-2012 02:40 AM #11 joejoechen (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by bbrock32 View Post
Another option for people wanting a cheap self hosted solution.

Just get a few mods done for 202, to track carriers and handsets (shouldn't cost anymore than $200).

Once you optimize, then drop the tracking all together, that will insure the least amount of redirects possible.

It's cheap , secure , and you have access to 100% of unencrypted code.

Actually I might just get one coded and give it for free for STM.
WHY. YOU. DID. NOT. DO. THIS. EARLIER. BEFORE. I. BUY. IMOBITRAX. I. AM. SUPER. PISSED.

lol just crackin'


06-28-2012 09:07 PM #12 sntr (Member)

most cases narrowing down by carrier and handets kills the camp anyways so why bother ...


06-28-2012 11:11 PM #13 zeno (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by sntr View Post
most cases narrowing down by carrier and handets kills the camp anyways so why bother ...
What?


06-28-2012 11:51 PM #14 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Hey guys , just confirming that got a coder to get this p202 mod done

Should be available really soon , and as always , free for all those cool STM members.


06-29-2012 03:04 AM #15 joejoechen (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by sntr View Post
most cases narrowing down by carrier and handets kills the camp anyways so why bother ...
Actually. I KINDA attest to that.

I have a couple campaigns where i created new campaigns with the most profitable handsets, turned out they lose a lot of money. More -ROI than my original camp lol


06-29-2012 04:18 AM #16 sntr (Member)

^this or you get no volume... at least nothing near original volume from the same carrier-handset "combos" when targeted broad.


06-29-2012 04:22 AM #17 Ryan Eagle ()

Quote Originally Posted by The Angry Russian View Post
Or you can just use our tracker for FREE which is 10 times more powerful, has "rule based" redirects and tracks carrier/handsets and more automatically, universal pixels, network postback, 5 subid placeholder... whew running out of breath

http://www.mobafftracker.com
Straight G. Can you PLEASE make an enterprise edition!


06-29-2012 03:00 PM #18 stackman (Administrator)

I just saw the plan layout for the p202 mobile tracker, and it's going to be f-a-n-t-a-s-t-i-c! Self hosted and F-R-E-E like a bauss


06-29-2012 03:56 PM #19 wyffgoal (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by stackman View Post
I just saw the plan layout for the p202 mobile tracker, and it's going to be f-a-n-t-a-s-t-i-c! Self hosted and F-R-E-E like a bauss
Can I have it now? Can't wait to get that now....

Looking forward to this!


06-29-2012 07:02 PM #20 The Angry Russian (Moderator)

MobAff Tracker is only available to active MobAff publishers for now. Working on licensing it out, will not be self hosted.

Self-hosted is WAYY over rated in my opinion. We're running our tracker on 3 servers with backup in case there's any down time. Our redirect speeds are 100ms and under. I think for most affiliates who aren't super technical managing their own box is going to hurt them in the long run, which is why we're not planning on releasing self hosted solution.

As for using 202 and mods thats a great way to go, but I'm obviously not a fan of 202 and think that our tracker can do far more than 202 ever could.

Mobile redirect traffic by carrier, os, handset, and more
Track all mobile data automatically with enterprise level handset lookup included
Postback conversion to any ad network that has postback enabled (TapIt, Moolah, Airpush, Jumptap, etc)
Use up to 6 tokens to track any macros you chose
Alert system so you don't have to babysit your campaigns


06-29-2012 07:43 PM #21 snarry (Member)

I've just been using bevo, I just like going into one platform to see all my campaigns. seeing what can be optimized. Also nice to see all types of carriers, os that lands on my landers.
as you see the carriers i can filter through.


06-30-2012 01:24 PM #22 tijn (Moderator)

Snarry -> hows the "footprint" tracking working on mobile for you, is it accurate?


06-30-2012 02:15 PM #23 snarry (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by tijn View Post
Snarry -> hows the "footprint" tracking working on mobile for you, is it accurate?
Fingerprint you mean right? well its just a piece a JS it works the same as running a campaign on ppc,ppv or media buys.

I have to get my AM to put the conversion fingerprint on the thankyou page of the mobile offer.


06-30-2012 07:20 PM #24 harrypotter (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by The Angry Russian View Post
Our redirect speeds are 100ms and under
seems like 10-15% click loss is typical for mobile... at such low redirect speeds, are you guys seeing lower click loss rate than 10%?

Quote Originally Posted by The Angry Russian View Post
Alert system so you don't have to babysit your campaigns
^^ COOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL feature


07-01-2012 07:07 PM #25 getzlaf15 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by The Angry Russian View Post
MobAff Tracker is only available to active MobAff publishers for now. Working on licensing it out, will not be self hosted.

Self-hosted is WAYY over rated in my opinion.

Way over-rated? Sure I want to share my campaigns.

Why don't i just tar up my landers too?

I seriously think the only people who do the self hosted shit, are people who don't make very much money.


07-01-2012 07:44 PM #26 mrgodlike (Member)

not like self hosted can't share your stats either... like when bluesky owned prosper for a min


07-01-2012 09:26 PM #27 pain2k (Veteran Member)

@getzlaf15. You sir, are very misguided on that last point.


07-02-2012 04:28 AM #28 Mr Baffoe (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mrgodlike View Post
not like self hosted can't share your stats either... like when bluesky owned prosper for a min
Prosper202 never leaked campaign info even when we were with bloosky.


07-02-2012 02:16 PM #29 The Angry Russian (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by getzlaf15 View Post
Way over-rated? Sure I want to share my campaigns.

Why don't i just tar up my landers too?

I seriously think the only people who do the self hosted shit, are people who don't make very much money.
Just another paranoid affiliate... Look at all the enterprise tracking solutions out there they are all SaaS. The solution we're working on isn't targeting just affiliates, but advertisers, app developers, agencies and more... most of whom aren't looking for self hosted solutions.


07-02-2012 05:18 PM #30 mrgodlike (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by Mr Baffoe View Post
Prosper202 never leaked campaign info even when we were with bloosky.
my bad... I only remember everyone ranting in this thread: http://www.wickedfire.com/affiliate-...per-1-5-a.html.


07-02-2012 09:00 PM #31 Mr Baffoe (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mrgodlike View Post
my bad... I only remember everyone ranting in this thread: http://www.wickedfire.com/affiliate-...per-1-5-a.html.
I remember that thread. It was all a bunch of people who didn't know anything talking like they were knowledgable. P202 1.5 was open source, anyone could have looked at the source to see what was going one, but no one did and just decided to believe what was said on some forum. It would have been pretty simple for anyone to look at the source and know all the claims were false.

I'll semi quote the Angry Russian and say "Just another [bunch of] paranoid affiliate[s]..."

I'm not putting any time/resources into the self-hosted P202 in the near future. I can move much faster with upgrades, features, and produce better software that's well supported when it's on a SaaS model.

P202 1.7.2 will be our (Wes, Steven, Roland, Angry Russian, Mr Affbuzz, and the rest of the team that helped build the company) gift to the community. Freely mod, update and fix it to do what you want.

P202 1.8+ = SaaS that's no longer free


07-02-2012 09:24 PM #32 Mr Green (Administrator)

For those of you who don't know Nana, he is one the most trustworthy people in this industry. Believe what he says. He ain't gonna do you wrong. I wouldn't say that about many people.


07-03-2012 03:47 AM #33 pain2k (Veteran Member)

Well I don't think anyone mistrusts Nana (even though he had to emphasize bunch)...people just have different preferences. Not every "bunch" of marketers want SaaS and that's reality. Just look at openx..duh!

It all comes down what your bottomline is. SaaS is now a good business model and that's one of the reasons many people head towards that because of residual income.


07-13-2012 07:30 PM #34 peteperclick (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by bunchie View Post
Yes carrier will be added in the next 2-3 days I believe they were just collecting user data for a week or so to complete and validate their database to make sure it was accurate.

Definitely a necessary addition.

I am also seeing about 3 - 5% click loss that that is NOTHING compared to what I was seeing with other tracking solutions and an acceptable level to me (I see upwards of 10-15% on Lead Impact with PPV for example)
Has the carrier tracking been added now? Can't find anything on their site.


07-13-2012 08:22 PM #35 The Angry Russian (Moderator)

Our tracker has carrier, handset, OS, OS Version, Referrer, and more already built in.

Oh and did we mention you can redirect users based on all those parameters.

And no you don't have to run MobAff offers only to use it.


07-13-2012 08:41 PM #36 pancakes (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by The Angry Russian View Post
Our tracker has carrier, handset, OS, OS Version, Referrer, and more already built in.

Oh and did we mention you can redirect users based on all those parameters.

And no you don't have to run MobAff offers only to use it.
Awesome, just signed up under "adcarat". Looking forward to testing it out.


07-13-2012 09:06 PM #37 peteperclick (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by The Angry Russian View Post
Our tracker has carrier, handset, OS, OS Version, Referrer, and more already built in.

Oh and did we mention you can redirect users based on all those parameters.

And no you don't have to run MobAff offers only to use it.
Ok, SOLD! I'll be testing it out as well, signing up now, thanks.


07-13-2012 10:18 PM #38 The Angry Russian (Moderator)

Please Note: Only valid MobAff publishers will be able to login to the tracker


07-27-2012 06:01 PM #39 macallan (Member)

So what happened with Bbrock's mobile tracking p202 mod?


07-27-2012 06:46 PM #40 bbrock32 (Administrator)

It's ready , just tuning up minor details and we will publish it next week


07-27-2012 07:07 PM #41 tijn (Moderator)

nice!


07-27-2012 07:29 PM #42 julien (Member)

Can't wait!
Thank you so much Besmir, you're the man!


08-09-2012 06:04 PM #43 nusolutionz (Veteran Member)

any updates on the p202 mod?


08-09-2012 07:28 PM #44 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Sorry guys , just been busy with creating an actual site for it , but at this point , will just post zip on forums.

I will be traveling tomorrow but will post on saturday / sunday


08-10-2012 02:17 PM #45 Spacey in Space (Member)

Please Note: Only valid MobAff publishers will be able to login to the tracker
Can you define 'valid' MobAff publishers? Do you have a minimum threshold in daily/weekly/monthly earnings to qualify for access to tracker? You also mention (assuming that once one does have access to tracker) that it can be used to run offers not on the mobaff network, but I can only speculate that at some point after running mobaff offers to become valid, gaining access to tracker and then using it to run offers on other networks, that 'valid' status would perhaps be reversed? Can you explain how this works? I have a few guys looking for better solutions than iMobitrax but feel sending them to you would be, well...dangerous!


08-10-2012 08:50 PM #46 The Angry Russian (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Hurry View Post
Can you define 'valid' MobAff publishers? Do you have a minimum threshold in daily/weekly/monthly earnings to qualify for access to tracker? You also mention (assuming that once one does have access to tracker) that it can be used to run offers not on the mobaff network, but I can only speculate that at some point after running mobaff offers to become valid, gaining access to tracker and then using it to run offers on other networks, that 'valid' status would perhaps be reversed? Can you explain how this works? I have a few guys looking for better solutions than iMobitrax but feel sending them to you would be, well...dangerous!
Hey Ryan, hit me up on Skype so we can discuss this.

Our goal is to spin off our tracking completely separate from MobAff the network. You can read about it more here

Short Answer: Our goal isn't to trap people into MobAff we only started the network to build revenues to fund the technology for mobile. By valid its a way of only allowing affiliates who know what they are doing to use it so we don't have to spend hours explaining what a subid is.

Also, we'll be at the meet market tables if you want to drop by.


08-11-2012 12:12 PM #47 pain2k (Veteran Member)

@Angry - Like how it looks over there. Awesome shit.


08-12-2012 08:31 AM #48 wyffgoal (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by bbrock32 View Post
Sorry guys , just been busy with creating an actual site for it , but at this point , will just post zip on forums.

I will be traveling tomorrow but will post on saturday / sunday
Hey Besmir, any update on this yet? Thanks a lot!


08-21-2012 10:34 PM #49 adhawk (Member)

Did this ever get released? Looking forward to trying it out


08-21-2012 11:34 PM #50 Mr Green (Administrator)

He should be back in town tomorrow. It's his first priority when he gets back to release it. DO YOU HEAR THAT BESMIR???


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