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06-26-2012 06:01 PM #1 dconstrukt (Member)
How are you split testing?

so google decided to stop website optimizer.... and bundle it within google analytics.

while doing so they stopped multi variant testing...

and this new version IMO sucks the big one.

What are you guys using instead?

Heard of visual website optimizer and optimizely. A friend of mine likes it but man... he's spending $2500 a month on it.... for something that was free.

uuugh.

any suggestions?


06-26-2012 11:53 PM #2 zeno (Administrator)

I like Clicky. Main reason for me being that I can pass subids with PHP and dynamically insert them into their on-the-fly javascript split testing code, so can automatically name the page variations and look at their CTRs down to the ad-level, i.e. get so granular you can optimise each lander to each advert if you want to. They are also super cheap, but at the moment you can only have one goal per split test, so for instance you can't have 2+ CTA buttons with different associated click events and have them both contribute to the split test goal. It's also nice to be able to see additional peripheral data like user IPs, geolocations, browsers, OS, screen size etc.


06-27-2012 12:15 AM #3 hd2010 (Member)

@zeno : you always hardcore with php


06-27-2012 12:31 AM #4 zeno (Administrator)

I have so much love for PHP! And automation. And the combination of the two.


06-27-2012 01:58 AM #5 dconstrukt (Member)

@zeno... i have absolutely no clue what you just said... LOL... but it sounds like a nightmare to setup and keep track of.

i like simple.


06-27-2012 02:23 AM #6 leechongwei (Member)

nah, don't bother with google web optimizer, even if it's bundled into ga now. they're not real time. and by the time you analyze the data, you're already 1-2 days late... and when you're buying lots of traffic, that's a big deal.

clicky is real time. didn't know you can use it as a split test platform, haha! yes, it's super cheap for what it can do, best analytics software.

i've used vwo, and it's really good if saving time on split testing is your priority. almost everything is point and click. you don't have to go through the trouble of uploading ftp files each time. just do it all in the vwo dashboard.


06-27-2012 03:16 AM #7 zeno (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by dconstrukt View Post
@zeno... i have absolutely no clue what you just said... LOL... but it sounds like a nightmare to setup and keep track of.

i like simple.
Heh, it's simple to me. It's no VWO but I like having more control over what's happening in the background. Basically you can pass subids to your lander, then have the Clicky split testing script use those subids to name everything. By doing it this way you can essentially funnel all traffic to the same lander and have it dynamically sort it's shit out. So then when making separate lander folders on your server for each demo group you can copy/paste the entire lander and it's all sweet. My approach is to set up my stuff so that my subids passed from the advert URL automatically sort out the destination URL and all pixels/aff links/split testing scripts etc automatically, makes it fast to scale to more countries/demos/angles/traffic sources without having to touch any of the code.


06-27-2012 03:18 AM #8 bunchie (Member)

http://landingpagegenius.com/ is all you need


06-27-2012 01:24 PM #9 dconstrukt (Member)

@zeno... you're obviously a tech person.... i'm far from it... that shit is greek to me bro.

@bunchie how so? i'm testing sales funnels not just a landing page.... that won't work.

so far from talking to ppl... its between visual website optimizer and optimizely.

they're just not super cheap... especially when you're running a lot of paid traffic. think my buddy's doing 20k uniques a day and paying like $2500 a month for it.

UUUUGH.


06-27-2012 01:41 PM #10 caleb (Senior Member)

Yo Dave!

Check out CPVlab ... I'm running a split test now (due to the same reasons you said) and I canceled my Visual Website Optimizer account because it's a lot o money, and I don't like the way it's setup, etc ...

Anyways, I'm pretty sure you can do some rad ass things for funnel testing with CPVlab, I'm running a simple split test now and like the dude above said, it is real time too -- unlike GWO which is a definite plus.

Check it out!

p.s. plus it's a one time fee!!!!!


06-27-2012 05:14 PM #11 bunchie (Member)

Yes sorry I was referring to what Caleb said as well....... I just wrote the message fast.

I use LP Genius and CPV Lab in combination to test multiple funnels and it works great.


06-27-2012 06:11 PM #12 Connaissance (Member)

CPV lab isn't exactly easy for non-techies, though.


06-27-2012 06:17 PM #13 johnaff (AMC Alumnus)

Use http://experiment.ly/

This shit rocks. You dont need to be very techy to figure it out. You dont even need to have access to the final conversion page to setup split-tests.


06-27-2012 06:32 PM #14 dconstrukt (Member)

@ johnaff - lookin at it now.... looks cool.

ya.... Caleb i had a programmer install it and had issues with the install on the funnel and shit.

got a simple php thing that i'm installing on the sales funnel... it shows where people are dropping off.... the split testing software will then help to increase #'s on those pages.

Looks like Optimizely is the one.... most ppl i know with offers doing big volume are using it.

cpvlabs sounds awesome but man, like 202 and the rest of the lot, its just not made for non tech people. (i know many of u guys swear by those apps)

almost none of these programs are made for non-techies.

i'm a marketer not a programmer dammit. :-)


06-27-2012 06:48 PM #15 hd2010 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by dconstrukt View Post
@zeno... you're obviously a tech person.... i'm far from it... that shit is greek to me bro.

@bunchie how so? i'm testing sales funnels not just a landing page.... that won't work.

so far from talking to ppl... its between visual website optimizer and optimizely.

they're just not super cheap... especially when you're running a lot of paid traffic. think my buddy's doing 20k uniques a day and paying like $2500 a month for it.

UUUUGH.
He did learn it up, now he is bailing


06-27-2012 07:00 PM #16 hd2010 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by zeno View Post
Heh, it's simple to me. It's no VWO but I like having more control over what's happening in the background. Basically you can pass subids to your lander, then have the Clicky split testing script use those subids to name everything. By doing it this way you can essentially funnel all traffic to the same lander and have it dynamically sort it's shit out. So then when making separate lander folders on your server for each demo group you can copy/paste the entire lander and it's all sweet. My approach is to set up my stuff so that my subids passed from the advert URL automatically sort out the destination URL and all pixels/aff links/split testing scripts etc automatically, makes it fast to scale to more countries/demos/angles/traffic sources without having to touch any of the code.
@Zeno : which premium features of clicky are that to achieve what you said ?


06-27-2012 07:23 PM #17 IvanOng (Member)

landing page genius seems to be the answer to your question dconstrukt

If not the free alternative would be google web optmizer


06-27-2012 07:29 PM #18 hd2010 (Member)

@dconstrukt : CPVLab is easy to use


06-28-2012 12:36 AM #19 jarad12 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by IvanOng View Post
landing page genius seems to be the answer to your question dconstrukt

If not the free alternative would be google web optmizer
Yeah this looks best so far.


06-28-2012 01:14 AM #20 zeno (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by hd2010 View Post
@Zeno : which premium features of clicky are that to achieve what you said ?
It's part of the goal tracking feature. Just read their help section on it again, forgot that they had actually partnered with VWO so you can integrate all the visual stuff with Clicky if need be. I just use there dynamic javascript goals, excerpt below:

------------------------
Split testing API
As mentioned above, split tests are defined 100% via Javascript. Whatever you are actually testing (e.g. a different landing page, or a different call to action), you will need to program that on your end. We'll provide an example of that below, but first, here is what the code looks like:

<script>
var clicky_custom = {};
clicky_custom.split = {
name: 'Landing page',
version: 'Current',
goal: 123
}
</script>
------------------------

So I might do something like:
Code:
<script>
  var clicky_custom = {};
  clicky_custom.split = {
    name: '<? echo $campaign."-".$country."-".$gender."-".$age ?>',
    version: '<? echo $lander."-".$creativeid ?>',
    goal: CTA
  }
</script>
Then in the split testing section of Clicky I'd get a list like so:

- Campaign-US-M-13-17
--- Lander1-creative1 5/50 10%
--- Lander1-creative2 8/40 20%
--- Lander2-creative1 7/35 20%
--- Lander2-creative2 7/42 17%

- Campaign-US-M-18-21
---- and so on.


06-28-2012 02:03 AM #21 maynzie (Moderator)

I'm a full cpvlab convert, unreal shit and awesome loading time


06-28-2012 05:04 AM #22 dconstrukt (Member)

how to set it up on your funnel.

how to setup campaigns

how to analyze the results

those are my big things to figure out with cpvlabs.

looks like optimizely is the winner so far as far as testing software from talking to a bunch of ppl.


06-28-2012 06:14 AM #23 hd2010 (Member)

@dconstrukt : they have cpvlab videos


06-28-2012 03:07 PM #24 stackman (Administrator)

Google Optimizer is quite amazing.

You can rotate many different elements in the landing page to see the best converter. So if you have a running campaign, this is your next step. It'll show you the winning combination of the best headline, with best images, etc.. gold!


06-28-2012 10:57 PM #25 dconstrukt (Member)

@ stack man... dude... they're discontinuing it aug 1st. the new version is bundled into google analytics... and it sucks... no multi variant testing....

thats why i am looking for anotha solution. Looks like i'm gonna roll with optimizely.... all my buddies who run big offers are using it and rave about it.


06-29-2012 05:18 PM #26 tormedia (Member)

Prosper here!


06-29-2012 07:24 PM #27 snarry (Member)

This sucks to see.


There's also
http://unbounce.com/pricing/
http://en.abtasty.com/offre
http://www.convertexperiments.com/pricing-sign-up
http://www.kameleoon.com/ (french)

I like the simple tracking testing different landers with bevomedia.
no setup on server side. setup campaign fast and easy. Great support!


06-29-2012 08:36 PM #28 dconstrukt (Member)

ya.. the new version sucks.

snarry... saw the convert.com one.... seems like optimizely looks/works a bit slicker... but won't know till i try.

with optimizely, you just have a line of code on your pages and thats it... you setup everything within their site.... so no having to re-add code all the time. that i like a lot.


06-30-2012 12:09 AM #29 theguvna ()

Cpvlab is nice for funnels and email followup sequences.

I really like vwo, but ive been looking at experiment.ly, seems like it integrates with 202 but i could be wrong.


06-30-2012 12:55 AM #30 nissangtr (Member)

Another vote for CPVLab - they got pretty good support - helped me setup my initial campaigns and then I just cloned and modify the offer/lander urls, etc.


06-30-2012 02:10 AM #31 dconstrukt (Member)

oh nice. We had the creator help my programmer with the setup, but he dude never finished and disappeared. i'm putting my own simple tracker together just for my email marketing..

@ theguvna - vwo and optimizely seem pretty much the same...


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