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05-30-2011 02:25 AM #1 wyffgoal (Member)
Which Traffic Source is the Most "Recommended" to Stick with For Newbies?

Hey guys,

I know this question might sound stupid as I believe there are already bunch of people asking for this kinda question for quite some time.

I've been very frustrated lately upon my traffic source's problem due to my extremely tight budget like $10 - $20 daily.

I just want to make absolutely clear that I've already been trying on PoF and I've found that I'm always shooting in the dark as I haven't been able to get something that's "consistent" for months.

I'm not that kind of person who will give up easily, I just really do hope that someone could share and help answer to this question as are there any better "recommended" alternatives to stick with?

I really feel like jumping over to PPV and get some existing profitable campaigns that you guys share and get some juice going from there.

I might sound like crying for help, but I really do need some serious straight-to-the-point help other than answer like "please master one traffic source first".

Your help and advice will be very much appreciated!

Thank you so much in advance.

05-30-2011 02:59 AM #2 polarbacon (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by wyffgoal View Post
Hey guys,

I know this question might sound stupid as I believe there are already bunch of people asking for this kinda question for quite some time.

I've been very frustrated lately upon my traffic source's problem due to my extremely tight budget like $10 - $20 daily.

I just want to make absolutely clear that I've already been trying on PoF and I've found that I'm always shooting in the dark as I haven't been able to get something that's "consistent" for months.

I'm not that kind of person who will give up easily, I just really do hope that someone could share and help answer to this question as are there any better "recommended" alternatives to stick with?

I really feel like jumping over to PPV and get some existing profitable campaigns that you guys share and get some juice going from there.

I might sound like crying for help, but I really do need some serious straight-to-the-point help other than answer like "please master one traffic source first".

Your help and advice will be very much appreciated!

Thank you so much in advance.
imo FB gives you the bang for the buck....as you only pay for clicks.....

I would really read through the FB threads that stack has put up......and then just keep plugging away.....

short little story for ya....I had a very love hate relationship with fb....never really giving it its due.....and always breaking even or loosing abit...

then I had few offers that I launched rather low payout in a country not known for cheap traffic.....my suggested bid was the offer payout.....(crazy I know)....

well wouldn't you know it they converted like a mofo......any I ran into my first big camp ever...$xxxx/day net

sooooooo........just keep plugging away.....then the odds are in your favor

05-30-2011 04:08 AM #3 wyffgoal (Member)

Thanks a lot polarbacon! By checking out the poll, I think I should go with Leadimpact by using some of the guides and landers provided by Besmir and Jordan themselves?

I need more "criticism" or whatever you wanna call it, please say whatever you want and I will take them all as the HOLY LIGHT to my DARK PARTH.

Thank you so much once again!

05-30-2011 05:41 AM #4 The Angry Russian (Moderator)

Just to add to polarbacon

Stick to one traffic source. You will find ways to game the system that others haven't even thought off. You will only find those things by fussing around with it. If you're breaking even slightly unprofitable then its just a matter of time. Just make sure to test all sorts of things including going CPM, international non english, day parting, etc.

Here's some goodies I learned back in the day maybe some of these will help.

1. Setting your budget to $100,000 a day will give you tons of impressions FAST and you wont spend much over your accounts limit for the day. (or at least thats how it worked up to 6 months ago before my last round of bans)

2. Test the same ad multiple times as sometimes if the ad didn't get a click off the bat it never gets a fair chance, but that doesn't mean its not a winner.

3. CPM is more consistent then CPC in terms of performance over long term.

4. Watch your reffers for % ratio of app/ non-app traffic. If this ratio suddenly shifts after a bid change or whatever then you need to fix it ASAP. General rule of thumb app traffic doesn't convert as well.

5. Time of Day is HUGGEELLY important. One of my biggest campaigns litterally would FLOP and could lose all my profits within two hours if I didn't pause at exactly 2:00 Eastern.

05-30-2011 06:47 AM #5 wyffgoal (Member)

Thank you so much The Angry Russian! I always appreciate these kinda inputs and help.

I really hope that if anyone of you here who successfully cracked the code with a very tight budget at the beginning like me would like to help a little and share your thoughts on how did you overcome all of the obstacles and what is your plan of actions?

A tip or two will greatly help lead me to a right direction I should stick with. I'm just trying not to "waste" all my time on something that's not "so recommended" like what I'm doing now.

Once again, thank you so much to all of your help! I do appreciate any help from you guys.

Cheers

05-30-2011 04:38 PM #6 hd2010 (Member)

wyffgoal, if your gut tell you, something will go wrong, then it will go wrong, I would suggest you to work part time to earn more money, so once you have more funds, it is much easier than have a tight budget. Have you play any strategy game before, it is not the strategy that win the game, it is the money that needed first, strategy is a secondary thing.

Of course, the more money the better, but no need forever to accumulate the fund.

05-30-2011 06:09 PM #7 bbrock32 (Administrator)

I might sound repetitive but stick with one traffic source when starting out.

When I first started PPV was the traffic source that I felt most comfortable with because I could get an idea of a campaign for $10-$20 .

Also I would suggest to stick with a proven niche.

So , for PPV email submits , mobile , credit reports , coreg offers are all offers that you can make them work.

Also if you need some quick money bidding on the offer's domain is a sure way to profit ( but some networks may frown on it ).

So pick a traffic source and an offer and start testing. Ask here any question you have and you will get help on your lp , strategy etc.

05-31-2011 03:53 AM #8 AdrianM (Member)

I always recommend newbies to go with FB Ads.

It's important to understand that most of the time you'll lose money out of the gate (as a newb). You need to make sure you pay attention to your CTR on FB (as it determines how cheap your cpcs will be) and day-part on any traffic source (can get dayparting data via prosper202). Just be persistent with your ads and keep split testing like crazy and sooner than later you'll find a few gems.

Also - keep Angry Russian's point #2 in mind if your splitting with a lot of ads. Facebook is known for giving each ad a couple of hundred impressions and the first few that get clicks tend to get the rest of the inventory for the campaign. So, sometimes i'll take my bad set of ads and re-test them and see that I have a couple more gems out of the bunch.

Another thing - when bidding on facebook: I never bid anywhere near the suggested bid. I always low ball their suggested bid and work my way up until I start getting a sufficient amount of traffic. I've had suggested bids of $3.00 and actually go in with like a 0.80 bid and end up getting traffic for like .46 cents. Facebook's suggested bid tends to scare away a lot of newbs (which I don't think I mind at all =P).

Good luck.

In my opinion, the easiest niches to break into via FB Ads would be dating and gaming.

05-31-2011 04:27 AM #9 theguvna ()

Ya I agree with many here... I recommend people start with Facebook or small direct to site buys actually. These are small flat rate buys anywhere from $150-$300. These buys aren't overly exciting but they allow you to test in a low risk environment.

If Google didn't have such a stick up their ass, I would say Google Display Network as well... I've always found it one of the easiest to get profitable. But yes their rules suck balls.

05-31-2011 05:14 PM #10 peraction (Member)

I actually tell most people to go with someone like adbrite. I still buy on those guys everyday years later and make thousands a day in profit, they have great traffic approve a lot of shit, and are easy to work with at any skill level.

Direct site buys I'd stay away from for sure just starting out only because it's a lot of work for minimal scalability and education as you begin and I think an open ad network, CPV, or Fbook would really be the only three options.

I pretty much agree word for word with the other statements in this thread:

1. Lose money everyday for months if needed but never ever under any circumstance start testing on other traffic sources even if you hear everyone is making $10,000 a day for a $5 spend using something else. Become the master of adbrite, or trafficvance, of fbook or whatever, resist the temptation to stray. The key is to study and understand why you are losing money.

2. Pick one vertical, same deal as above, under no circumstance do you leave it, be a bizop guy or a weight loss guy, or dating or whatever, but that's all you do. When you are making stable solid profits you can begin playing in other verticals but until you master one, you just delay your success by jumping around testing tons of offers, and worse, testing them on tons of traffic sources at $25 each.

3. Get a part time job, sell your stuff, sell your blood, sacrifice if you really want this. Being able to spend even $300 a week on traffic will exponentially increase your speed of success in comparison to a $50 a week spend. It may suck for a few months, but assuming you live in a normal country, you can get a night job, or group of side jobs to finance traffic. Nobody wants to work the taco bell late night drive thru but if you are the kind of person who would swallow your pride and do it for a few months to support your business, you are certainly the person who in 6 months to a year will be pulling up to that drive thru in a (insert dream car here)

11-16-2012 02:56 AM #11 paulis1 (Member)

Great advice peraction. Just went from a 9 to 5 job where it was constant issues and total negativity... to doing night security guard where i have the time to study and apply what i'm learning.

Quote Originally Posted by peraction View Post
I actually tell most people to go with someone like adbrite. I still buy on those guys everyday years later and make thousands a day in profit, they have great traffic approve a lot of shit, and are easy to work with at any skill level.

Direct site buys I'd stay away from for sure just starting out only because it's a lot of work for minimal scalability and education as you begin and I think an open ad network, CPV, or Fbook would really be the only three options.

I pretty much agree word for word with the other statements in this thread:

1. Lose money everyday for months if needed but never ever under any circumstance start testing on other traffic sources even if you hear everyone is making $10,000 a day for a $5 spend using something else. Become the master of adbrite, or trafficvance, of fbook or whatever, resist the temptation to stray. The key is to study and understand why you are losing money.

2. Pick one vertical, same deal as above, under no circumstance do you leave it, be a bizop guy or a weight loss guy, or dating or whatever, but that's all you do. When you are making stable solid profits you can begin playing in other verticals but until you master one, you just delay your success by jumping around testing tons of offers, and worse, testing them on tons of traffic sources at $25 each.

3. Get a part time job, sell your stuff, sell your blood, sacrifice if you really want this. Being able to spend even $300 a week on traffic will exponentially increase your speed of success in comparison to a $50 a week spend. It may suck for a few months, but assuming you live in a normal country, you can get a night job, or group of side jobs to finance traffic. Nobody wants to work the taco bell late night drive thru but if you are the kind of person who would swallow your pride and do it for a few months to support your business, you are certainly the person who in 6 months to a year will be pulling up to that drive thru in a (insert dream car here)

11-16-2012 07:58 AM #12 clickthroo (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by paulis1 View Post
Just went from a 9 to 5 job where it was constant issues and total negativity... to doing night security guard where i have the time to study and apply what i'm learning.
When I read this I had a thought bubble of robbers with swag bags repeatedly sneaking past your hut whilst you were sitting there loading ads onto FB

I would always suggest PPV as a starting point, due to the low barrier-to-entry ($200 at LI) and the lack of rules (and bans).

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