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04-29-2012 12:14 PM
#1
goapple (Member)
Running your Affiliate campaigns through an Agency
Since agencies have close relationships with the large traffic sources, like Google and FB, is it a good idea to run your Affiliate campaigns through them? That way, you don't have to worry about getting your account banned.
Does anyone have any experience to share?
04-29-2012 02:30 PM
#2
dario (Member)
Aren't you worried about all your campaigns being stolen ?
04-29-2012 04:12 PM
#3
goapple (Member)

Originally Posted by
dario
Aren't you worried about all your campaigns being stolen ?
If you don't use conversion pixels and you actually cloak your campaigns (lol, too easy), it's quite unlikely.
They're too busy chasing ad spends of the big brands :-)
04-29-2012 10:02 PM
#4
polarbacon (Moderator)
not sure why you think agencies are any diff than you or I.....they can loose accounts just like we do...
04-29-2012 11:21 PM
#5
goapple (Member)

Originally Posted by
polarbacon
not sure why you think agencies are any diff than you or I.....they can loose accounts just like we do...
So for a 100% FB focused agency, like adparlor, they have to shut down their biz the moment they lose an acct? Not possible, right?
There r tons of Google focused agencies out there too, if they got the same treatment as we affiliates, many would be out of biz yet they are still around.
04-29-2012 11:22 PM
#6
jroes57 (Member)
Im pretty sure they have multiple accounts 
04-29-2012 11:58 PM
#7
nusolutionz (Veteran Member)
if you try to screw them (loosing accs etc) it's in their best interest to stop doing business with you..don't even bother. it's better for both parties in the long term if you don't work together...try to make a simple business plan and make sure cloaking and running high risk campaigns is not included..don't get me wrong..both options makes sense sometimes if you want to scale..but you can't build a long term business with them..
if you want to work with agencies..put in some REAL work and build something legit that you can scale..so both sides can/will profit..just my 2 cents
04-30-2012 07:01 PM
#8
Finch (Moderator)

Originally Posted by
nusolutionz
if you try to screw them (loosing accs etc) it's in their best interest to stop doing business with you..don't even bother. it's better for both parties in the long term if you don't work together...try to make a simple business plan and make sure cloaking and running high risk campaigns is not included..don't get me wrong..both options makes sense sometimes if you want to scale..but you can't build a long term business with them..
if you want to work with agencies..put in some REAL work and build something legit that you can scale..so both sides can/will profit..just my 2 cents
^My thoughts exactly.
If you intend to run through an agency, you might as well produce your own product. Remember you are effectively the 'agency' for the offers you're promoting.
How many parties can afford to eat in to that margin before it tastes bitter for everybody?
I think it's better to simply focus on creating legit campaigns for legit products.
If Facebook doesn't want you on the platform, you lose. No agency is going to want to continue to do business with a rogue advertiser who keeps getting his titties in a twist and finding himself banned from the platform.
04-30-2012 07:01 PM
#9
Finch (Moderator)

Originally Posted by
nusolutionz
if you try to screw them (loosing accs etc) it's in their best interest to stop doing business with you..don't even bother. it's better for both parties in the long term if you don't work together...try to make a simple business plan and make sure cloaking and running high risk campaigns is not included..don't get me wrong..both options makes sense sometimes if you want to scale..but you can't build a long term business with them..
if you want to work with agencies..put in some REAL work and build something legit that you can scale..so both sides can/will profit..just my 2 cents
^My thoughts exactly.
If you intend to run through an agency, you might as well produce your own product. Remember you are effectively the 'agency' for the offers you're promoting.
How many parties can afford to eat in to that margin before it tastes bitter for everybody?
I think it's better to simply focus on creating legit campaigns for legit products.
If Facebook doesn't want you on the platform, you lose. No agency is going to want to continue to do business with a rogue advertiser who keeps getting his titties in a twist and finding himself banned from the platform.
04-30-2012 08:10 PM
#10
polarbacon (Moderator)

Originally Posted by
goapple
So for a 100% FB focused agency, like adparlor, they have to shut down their biz the moment they lose an acct? Not possible, right?
There r tons of Google focused agencies out there too, if they got the same treatment as we affiliates, many would be out of biz yet they are still around.
do you seriously think they only have one account?
having worked for one of the largest agencies on FB I can tell you 100% nothing is different.....they can loose accounts just like we can....what is against the TOS for us is the same thats against the the TOS for them not sure why you think otherwise....
we would get account warnings just like you do....and if we burned to many accounts with poor disapproval ratios or bad ads the account would go down just like any other....that is why most of those agencies you see wont take any dating or health related clients....its not worth the risk
as a matter of fact we had so much trouble with one dating camp that after that management said no more dating adverts...and we stopped working in that vertical all together....
05-01-2012 03:11 PM
#11
jroes57 (Member)
I think the main part of using the agency is to cut out the grunt work on manually submitting ads, cause they have APIs which allow them to test a lot quicker then the normal person would.
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