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04-26-2012 09:37 AM #1 anbrutog (Member)
0-€100/day in 36 days on PPV.

Hey folks ,

After about a month of procrastination , idling , contemplating , lurking , shirking , plotting , scheming , dreaming , mawdling and dawdling , I'm about to put pedal to the metal and get the show on the road.

Where will it lead me ?? Who knows..
Do I know precisely what I'm doing ?? Lol , not a chance..
The amount of information and terminology being thrown around both here and in other places is enough to bewilder an an ice cool Eskimo assasin.

But I think theres a danger of thinking about things too much , and forever just dipping your toes in the pool. Im still bloody uncertain about a lot of things , but as has been mentioned numerous times throughout this forum, the best strategy is to get stuck in , make mistakes and see what happens.

So here goes....

I'm starting off on PPV using the 40 day guide. From what I read it seems slightly less hassle than Facebook , I dont like the idea of getting banned and the hassle that goes with it ( muliple credit cards / multiple accounts and all that jazz ). Maybe one day Ill take a look , but for the moment PPV seems the better bet.

Deadline is 1st June , for personal reasons as well as being a nice even date.
Target is €100 /day by June 1st ( 36 days approx , not quite the 40 but it'll have to do ). My core belief is that while that goal may not be easy , it can be done ( and beyond ) with the right work ethic , dedication , persistance and patience.
Ive told anyone/everybody who knows me Ill be otherwise engaged for the next month or so so not to distract me with offers to go down the pub or other distractions.
I get my shopping delivered so apart from my bi-weekly run I wont be leaving the house. Essentially I will be living and breathing this for the next month or so, until I hit that goal.
My budget is about €2000 but I can stretch it to a bit more should it be needed. Im hoping it wont though.

So far Ive ..

CPA Networks: Signed up to Peerfly and EWA.
Traffic Source: Lead Impact
Domain name bought with namecheap
CPV Lab purchased and configured , hosting set up with Beyond Hosting.
Verticals : Email & Zip , Financial , Ringtones

All ready to rock.

Gonna go with 3 offers a day , spending $5 a day on each.
Im going to start off with getting 9 campaigns approved today , and 3 more tomorrow. Not going to let them loose all at the same time , but I want to have a good few approved so I can work over the weekend ( Lead Impact dont approve over the weekends, correct ?? )

Im going to start off with no LP's for every campaign and see how they initially convert.

So join me as I do some good. All help /advice / criticism / abuse will be lovingly embraced

AB


04-26-2012 09:54 AM #2 tap1on (Member)

I would say, stick with one vertical to start with.
Spending $5 a day per offer doesnt really cut it. It really depends on how much your offer pays per lead.
Makes no sense to test a financial offer that pays $15+ with only a $5 budget.


04-26-2012 10:01 AM #3 anbrutog (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by tap1on View Post
I would say, stick with one vertical to start with.
Spending $5 a day per offer doesnt really cut it. It really depends on how much your offer pays per lead.
Makes no sense to test a financial offer that pays $15+ with only a $5 budget.
Cheers Tap1on . What should I be looking at minimum for testing each day , regardless of the vertical ??


04-26-2012 10:03 AM #4 tap1on (Member)

2-3 times the offer payout is usually what I do. I'm no master on ppv though so might be wrong on this one.
Stick to one vertical, test different angles and always use the data you gather. If it didn't work, why?

Landers almost always gives you higher ROI but direct linking is okey when you are starting out.


04-26-2012 05:24 PM #5 harrypotter (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by tap1on View Post
always use the data you gather. If it didn't work, why?
this part is important. something i am trying to understand better myself. how do you gauge WHY it didn't work...

bad targets?
not compelling landers?
not relevant angles?
audience bored?
offer sucks?

direct linking will take out many variables. but your campaigns will die faster from what i know.

best of luck!


04-26-2012 07:51 PM #6 anbrutog (Member)

Cheers Harry. Meant to ask you is your mastermind group still open , if so let me know. Cant pm yet unfortunately.


04-26-2012 07:56 PM #7 harrypotter (Member)

post your skype here. we love people taking action


04-26-2012 08:48 PM #8 anbrutog (Member)

skype: pearldesigndublin

Nice one


04-27-2012 07:30 AM #9 maynzie (Moderator)

Hey man!

Good advice on here, stick to one vertical mate, otherwise you will get frustrated and won't gather any real data for the offers you're running.

Leadimpact is good, its by far my favourite source for PPV, networks are solid.

In fact, Email submits there is not a lot of money in there, but the campaigns are easy to set up and are profitable and low maintenance, so maybe it would be a good idea to put up simple email submit campaigns because they will earn you profit while you then focus on either Finance or Ringtones being your main source of income.

Make sure you test a lot of angles, heck install the software yourself on a Virtual Machine and see how the competition is running it, but pioneer it and make it even better.

Keep progressing bud, but most of all KISS (Keep it simple soldierrrrrrrr)

<3


04-27-2012 07:53 AM #10 anbrutog (Member)

Solid advice Maynzie mate as always, thanks

Ive installed Gamevance on an old crappy lapper , gonna try some other toolbars now later


04-27-2012 08:17 AM #11 maynzie (Moderator)

Yeah rad man

Gamevance is trafficvance, FreezeFrog is what I used for Leadimpact, not sure if thats still around but someone on this forum will have the current toolbar for ya


04-27-2012 04:21 PM #12 harrypotter (Member)

kangobox is the way to go for lead impact!


-> http://www.kangobox.com/


04-30-2012 02:02 AM #13 maynzie (Moderator)

Where you at homey, hows your progress coming along Eager to hear results and progression!


04-30-2012 05:01 AM #14 vipinext (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by maynzie View Post
Hey man!

Good advice on here, stick to one vertical mate, otherwise you will get frustrated and won't gather any real data for the offers you're running.

Leadimpact is good, its by far my favourite source for PPV, networks are solid.

In fact, Email submits there is not a lot of money in there, but the campaigns are easy to set up and are profitable and low maintenance, so maybe it would be a good idea to put up simple email submit campaigns because they will earn you profit while you then focus on either Finance or Ringtones being your main source of income.

Make sure you test a lot of angles, heck install the software yourself on a Virtual Machine and see how the competition is running it, but pioneer it and make it even better.

Keep progressing bud, but most of all KISS (Keep it simple soldierrrrrrrr)

<3
I have been reading your stuff here, really every post I have read so far posted by you has some killer things in it. I have gained much more confidence to start out here, BTW you said to install those toolbars to spy out the competition. Well am from India and somehow if I do install that toolbar, wont it show me the campaigns running for India only, will chippin a USA proxy in firefox make things work ?


04-30-2012 05:14 AM #15 harrypotter (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by vipinext View Post
I have been reading your stuff here, really every post I have read so far posted by you has some killer things in it. I have gained much more confidence to start out here, BTW you said to install those toolbars to spy out the competition. Well am from India and somehow if I do install that toolbar, wont it show me the campaigns running for India only, will chippin a USA proxy in firefox make things work ?
yeah, it will show you only pops from India...

hence, you need a VPN or proxy on your computer

here are a couple options for you:

http://www.hidemyass.com/
https://www.overplay.net/
http://strongvpn.com/

i have heard overplay works better than strongvpn.

i personally use hidemyass


04-30-2012 12:30 PM #16 vipinext (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by harrypotter View Post
yeah, it will show you only pops from India...

hence, you need a VPN or proxy on your computer

here are a couple options for you:

http://www.hidemyass.com/
https://www.overplay.net/
http://strongvpn.com/

i have heard overplay works better than strongvpn.

i personally use hidemyass
Thanks for coming by and giving your thoughts this forum is really full of helpful people all around. What I just wanted to ask is I have number of private proxies that I bought recently and all are USA ones. so will these proxies work if I chip in them into my firefox ?


04-30-2012 04:37 PM #17 harrypotter (Member)

hey buddy,

trying starting a new thread because we don't want to take over someone elses thread...

Quote Originally Posted by vipinext View Post
Thanks for coming by and giving your thoughts this forum is really full of helpful people all around. What I just wanted to ask is I have number of private proxies that I bought recently and all are USA ones. so will these proxies work if I chip in them into my firefox ?
regarding the above, if you have private proxies yourself... then you don't need a VPN service.

cheers


05-03-2012 02:15 PM #18 anbrutog (Member)

Hey lads,

Tis been a weird week. My desktop ( main computer ) has been giving me trouble all week and only really got it fixed today after much trial and error, on top of a whole heap of other drama I haven't had a whole lot of time to devote to AM. Such is life sometimes. Onwards and upwards...
Submitted 9 campaigns ( zip submits /Peerfly ) last weekend to LI , between the 9 campaigns I got ~1700 impressions , 1 conversion. Happy enough.
My first goal was to set up some campaigns , familiarise myself with how everything works , and to learn from the experience, so job done from that point of view.

LI question. They decided to move my offers from the inital category I placed it in ( Lifestyle - Other ) to Enterntainment - Sweepstakes/Giveaways . This meant that my mimimum bid rose from 0.015 to 0.02. Is this par for the course ?? It seems ( from what I read ) that they only do this occasionally, ie that on another day I could submit a campaign and my bid would be 0.015. Never bothered to inform me what was going on either which was very nice of them
If they do move categories , is there any way around it ?? Delete the campaign , start again and resubmit ??

My next course of action??
Currently setting up three offers for this evening , initially with DL to gauge interest. Keywords wise Im going to be a bit more precise and great some greater milage out of the affexpert tools. Have a few different angles I'm going to test , we'll see how they go.

Niche wise I think I'm going to look at UK/Euro offers over the next while, there seems to be less competition than for US offers. Anyone done much European offers on PPV ?? If so, anything out of the ordinary to be aware of??


AB


05-03-2012 06:51 PM #19 harrypotter (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by anbrutog View Post
If they do move categories , is there any way around it ?? Delete the campaign , start again and resubmit ??
you can try that.

just to note: they have been WAY more strict in terms of the categories and minimum bids though... especially if you use lifestyle > other because everyone under the sun and their mother are doing the same thing


05-04-2012 06:43 AM #20 anbrutog (Member)

Aggh! Just checking my stats there for a campaign I set off a few hours ago , nothing in CPVlab , no impressions , despite my LI account being down by $5. Nothing in my EWA stats either. I just checked with my other campaigns and this one has been set up the exact same , only difference is the CPA network. Any idea what might cause this ??


05-04-2012 03:23 PM #21 harrypotter (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by anbrutog View Post
Aggh! Just checking my stats there for a campaign I set off a few hours ago , nothing in CPVlab , no impressions , despite my LI account being down by $5. Nothing in my EWA stats either. I just checked with my other campaigns and this one has been set up the exact same , only difference is the CPA network. Any idea what might cause this ??
something is wrong technically man!

go back to LI and inside of your campaign, take the link you added to LI and test it in your browser

if after you put it in your browser and you don't see an impression, than something is wrong with the link!


05-04-2012 07:16 PM #22 anbrutog (Member)

Cheers for that Harry. As it turns out it was the Campaign schedule which I'd set to my time rather than LI's time. Doh!


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