Home > POP / PPV / Redirect >

Stuck In A Bidding War? I Got Your Back ;) (21)

03-21-2012 10:39 AM #1 maynzie (Moderator)
Stuck In A Bidding War? I Got Your Back ;)

Ever been stuck in one of those fkn crazy annoying bidding wars when the other side just won't accept the bullet is in his head and turns into a zombie and seriously won't back off as the bid prices rise cent by cent?

I can not stand it haha !

Anyway, if this is you on LeadImpact here is a surefire way to blow the trooper out of the water!

Raise your bid to the maximum bid possible, then set your daily budget to $1.00 per hour.

You won't spend a single cent, and the competitor will wonder how you are taking the traffic at that level.

I have used this for a 100% knock out ratio, I usually leave it for 1-3 days until he finally realises his got nothing against me, and then lower your bid and move on happy days !

Hope this helps, it was something I was super hesitant to give away but hey, I <3 you STM'ers!

03-21-2012 12:45 PM #2 tijn (Moderator)

Super super tip! Thanks maynzie!

03-21-2012 12:53 PM #3 tap1on (Member)

lol sick share! Thanks

03-21-2012 12:54 PM #4 maynzie (Moderator)

Just hoping to god you guys aren't my competition hahaha!

Eh what the hell we are famiy, #fairgame LOL!

03-21-2012 02:00 PM #5 polarbacon (Moderator)

what would be even better is if people realized that being in first place....isn't always needed....your time is better spent looking to scale the camp laterally than spending time playin with bids....

just my 2 cents

03-21-2012 03:32 PM #6 pokersensei (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by maynzie View Post
Raise your bid to the maximum bid possible, then set your daily budget to $1.00 per hour. You won't spend a single cent...
Wouldn't you spend $1 per hour?

03-21-2012 04:09 PM #7 extremesg (Member)

^ Not if you bid was $9.00 per click I'm guessing....

03-21-2012 04:10 PM #8 extremesg (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by polarbacon View Post
what would be even better is if people realized that being in first place....isn't always needed....your time is better spent looking to scale the camp laterally than spending time playin with bids....

just my 2 cents
Haha... you are expecting too much there me thinks!

03-21-2012 04:14 PM #9 extremesg (Member)

@maynzie - I guess it could go the other way however. Meaning, instead of you being either in 1st or 2nd place, when you stop your campaign as you are only bidding $1, suddenly the 'other guy' gets a massive surge of traffic, earns a crap load more on those few days you are paused, .... and doesn't give a shit why you are crazy enough to be bidding $5 - all he knows is that he's suddenly got a shit tonne more traffic, and has banked loads more ???

03-21-2012 04:23 PM #10 pokersensei (Member)

a lot of times i try to initiate a temporary peace and match his bid exactly and hope he will leave it there. usually the guy is too stubborn or doesn't realize that the only one who wins a bidding war is the traffic source.

03-21-2012 07:46 PM #11 stackman (Administrator)

@extremesg
That's a good point? @Maynzie this ever happen with that tactic?

03-21-2012 08:01 PM #12 corp (Member)

This doesn't make any sense. If you're only spending $1/hour, the second highest bidder is going get a majority of the traffic no matter what their bid is. Why would they bother trying to outbid you?

03-21-2012 09:51 PM #13 grikis (Member)

Keep bidding $5 with $1 hourly daily budget. Then duplicate campaign and bid also in 2nd, 3rd, 4th position (with normal bid) to get all of the traffic so the 'other guy' actually don't get any traffic.

03-21-2012 11:23 PM #14 maynzie (Moderator)

@stacks, I don't know what happens in second place I guess people will have run a trial on that, all I know is that for keywords that I find that I am the only bidder on and making good money with lots of room to move, when someone pops up on that winning url and tries to outbid I do this method and after 1-3 days all of them have dropped off and not come back onto it

I don't do this for high volume url's I use it for url's people rarely find that make a killing with small but high converting traffic so the dude in second place may not even get all that much traffic at all.

There are quite a few small volume url's out there that often net 1000-2000+% roi so this method works amazing to keep number 1 place and ALL the traffic on a url like it

03-21-2012 11:33 PM #15 minh1204 (Member)

So this is a psych tactic? Let #2 keep bidding until he realizes what the high bid is and then give up? So if #2 decides to play, he could make your impressions pretty expensive couldn't he by bidding high right below you?

03-21-2012 11:34 PM #16 maynzie (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by minh1204 View Post
So this is a psych tactic? Let #2 keep bidding until he realizes what the high bid is and then give up? So if #2 decides to play, he could make your impressions pretty expensive couldn't he by bidding high right below you?
yeah its a psych, you wont spend a sent but hold position 1 in the system

He could do that I guess, just not many will want to be bidding $1.50 a pop with their budget set to an increment that will handle that expense haha

03-22-2012 05:08 PM #17 robert75 (Member)

@maynzie - I am new to PPV and confused...so if you are in 2nd and third position in PPV your popup won't be displayed for that particular URL at all ? Do you need to be in #1 for a URL for your popup to show up when the user clicks on it ?

03-22-2012 07:06 PM #18 harrypotter (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
@maynzie - I am new to PPV and confused...so if you are in 2nd and third position in PPV your popup won't be displayed for that particular URL at all ? Do you need to be in #1 for a URL for your popup to show up when the user clicks on it ?
@robert

you don't need to be #1 to get traffic

from the 40 day guide (http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...arketing+Guide)

When you’re testing keywords there is no need to have the top ranking position, just bid the minimum. When you know that a keyword converts, you can start to test different bids to get more traffic and increase your profit.
check out the guide. it covers a lot

06-12-2012 05:38 PM #19 mateen_shauket (Member)

Usefull Thread! Thanks

06-16-2012 08:17 AM #20 mateen_shauket (Member)

Nice Tip! Worth a Try..

06-16-2012 08:22 AM #21 andy_d (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by extremesg View Post
@maynzie - I guess it could go the other way however. Meaning, instead of you being either in 1st or 2nd place, when you stop your campaign as you are only bidding $1, suddenly the 'other guy' gets a massive surge of traffic, earns a crap load more on those few days you are paused, .... and doesn't give a shit why you are crazy enough to be bidding $5 - all he knows is that he's suddenly got a shit tonne more traffic, and has banked loads more ???
You could always create a separate campaign with all the same keywords, with one dedicated solely to outbidding and the other to run traffic as normal.

Home > POP / PPV / Redirect >