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03-14-2012 03:57 PM
#1
pokersensei (Member)
Maintaining multiple FB accounts
Anyone care to share their methodology for maintaining more than one FB account (different names and credit cards) without having them connected in any way.
What technology do you use to keep separate IP addresses for each account?
Separate machine for each?
Separate domains and hosting accounts for each?
Different physical address for each CC?
Thanks!
03-14-2012 04:22 PM
#2
ibanez (Member)
New VPN for each acc, VMware with fresh installs for each account, new tracking / cloaking domains but same landingpage domains, same addresses and same names on CCs.
All accounts I lost were reported by some retards at one point.
03-14-2012 04:31 PM
#3
Herd Burglar (Member)

Originally Posted by
ibanez
New VPN for each acc, VMware with fresh installs for each account, new tracking / cloaking domains but same landingpage domains, same addresses and same names on CCs.
All accounts I lost were reported by some retards at one point.
I used to be able to use a very similar method without problems. Now I can't make new accounts using VMware... they all get autobanned. I have to use cheap, fresh laptops for each new account, which is annoying as all hell. I haven't been able to figure it out how my computer information is somehow leaking through the VM.
I hear you on the reporting thing... I'm 99% sure the dude who is 100% ripping virtually every new camp I make is repaying my hard work by reporting me and getting me banned.
03-14-2012 04:50 PM
#4
paycoguy (Member)

Originally Posted by
ibanez
New VPN for each acc, VMware with fresh installs for each account, new tracking / cloaking domains but same landingpage domains, same addresses and same names on CCs.
All accounts I lost were reported by some retards at one point.
Do you really need a new tracking domain for each acct when your outgoing URL is to the cloaker? If they go through every way point on that path, they would blacklist every domain on that including your LP. My guess is that they only blacklist the first one.
Secondly, what if you're using CPV Lab where you can only have 1 install. Impossible to install on multiple domains.
03-14-2012 04:56 PM
#5
ibanez (Member)

Originally Posted by
Herd Burglar
I used to be able to use a very similar method without problems. Now I can't make new accounts using VMware... they all get autobanned. I have to use cheap, fresh laptops for each new account, which is annoying as all hell. I haven't been able to figure it out how my computer information is somehow leaking through the VM.
I hear you on the reporting thing... I'm 99% sure the dude who is 100% ripping virtually every new camp I make is repaying my hard work by reporting me and getting me banned.
Hmm that really doesn't make any sense.
So you can't create accounts with your desktop and a fresh VMware install but with a new laptop? And you're using the same connection for that?
They could read the mac address of your router but then you couldn't make new accounts with a second laptop either afaik.
Did you try to create accs with a brand new VMware setup?
Maybe some tech guys here know more about it.
Do you really need a new tracking domain for each acct when your outgoing URL is to the cloaker? If they go through every way point on that path, they would blacklist every domain on that including your LP.
Don't think that they'll ban the domain right away but I want to be as safe as possible with my new accounts. When they get through the cloaker and see the real page I'm banned anyway, so I just run my old domains for landingpages.
Secondly, what if you're using CPV Lab where you can only have 1 install. Impossible to install on multiple domains...
Use Prosper.
03-14-2012 05:00 PM
#6
pokersensei (Member)

Originally Posted by
paycoguy
Secondly, what if you're using CPV Lab where you can only have 1 install. Impossible to install on multiple domains.
You can purchase additional licenses for CPV Lab for $97 each I believe. Also, If an account get's banned you can transfer that CPV Lab licence to another domain
03-14-2012 05:03 PM
#7
pokersensei (Member)

Originally Posted by
ibanez
New VPN for each acc, VMware with fresh installs for each account, new tracking / cloaking domains but same landingpage domains, same addresses and same names on CCs.
All accounts I lost were reported by some retards at one point.
You are getting approved for new accounts with the exact same CC name and address? Interesting. I would have thought that would at least flag you for a more in depth manual review.
03-14-2012 05:15 PM
#8
Herd Burglar (Member)

Originally Posted by
ibanez
Hmm that really doesn't make any sense.
So you can't create accounts with your desktop and a fresh VMware install but with a new laptop? And you're using the same connection for that?
They could read the mac address of your router but then you couldn't make new accounts with a second laptop either afaik.
Did you try to create accs with a brand new VMware setup?
Maybe some tech guys here know more about it.
Your telling me. It hasn't made sense to me for a month now. I wish I could figure it out. And yes, I use the same connection. I change IPs by using an SSH tunnel to different VPSs i have in the same city as my billing address. Ya, I've even tried using parallels instead of VMware... same result.
03-14-2012 05:47 PM
#9
ibanez (Member)
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...ght=polarbacon
Good thread by teh unicorn btw.
03-14-2012 08:23 PM
#10
kenny_powers (Member)
to add:
on the cc(us cc) the only thing they verify is the zip code. you can use a different name and address. just make sure the zip code is consistent.
i use vmware with no problem.
03-15-2012 03:11 AM
#11
tical (Member)

Originally Posted by
Herd Burglar
I used to be able to use a very similar method without problems. Now I can't make new accounts using VMware... they all get autobanned. I have to use cheap, fresh laptops for each new account, which is annoying as all hell. I haven't been able to figure it out how my computer information is somehow leaking through the VM.
I hear you on the reporting thing... I'm 99% sure the dude who is 100% ripping virtually every new camp I make is repaying my hard work by reporting me and getting me banned.
this isn't possible... i don't think your computer is leaking information to them. one thing i can think of is that google "fingerprinted" your vmware slice installation (os, font set, resolution, and other client side variables) along with browser version, plugins, timezone, city, and anything else that can be passed over to them to profile you. you'd be surprised at how unique all of our computers are when you consider what can be collected and shared from a browser. just think about all of the details google analytics collects.. and that is only what is USEFUL to people analyzing traffic.
bout to blow your mind:
http://panopticlick.eff.org/
Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 2,084,373 tested so far.
^ unique over 2 million browsers!!!
also: the mac address of your nic or router will never make it as far as google... the mac addresses in packets are replaced as they travel through each route in the network. i.e, your packet gets your your isp with your router mac address, that packet then gets to their provider with their mac address, and so on.
03-15-2012 04:48 PM
#12
paycoguy (Member)

Originally Posted by
pokersensei
You can purchase additional licenses for CPV Lab for $97 each I believe. Also, If an account get's banned you can transfer that CPV Lab licence to another domain
Not only an expensive option but how would you ever know your tracking domain is banned? If you were pushing something halfway shady, you'd never know if the reason your acct was killed was because of that or your tracking domain that was on their "list."
03-15-2012 04:55 PM
#13
Hannah (Member)
I do it old school and just reset my modem every time I want to log into a different FB account for a new IP address.
I have one account on IE, one on FF, one on Chrome and one on Safari.
Different name and CC address for each, but they're still relatively close to where I actually live. Different tracking domains (and LP domains) for each, but all on the same hosting.
And that's it. I haven't had accounts linked to each other in about 2 years.
03-15-2012 06:09 PM
#14
lng (Member)

Originally Posted by
Hannah
I do it old school and just reset my modem every time I want to log into a different FB account for a new IP address.
I have one account on IE, one on FF, one on Chrome and one on Safari.
Different name and CC address for each, but they're still relatively close to where I actually live. Different tracking domains (and LP domains) for each, but all on the same hosting.
And that's it. I haven't had accounts linked to each other in about 2 years.
K.i.s.s. this works wonders.
03-15-2012 06:30 PM
#15
Herd Burglar (Member)

Originally Posted by
tical
this isn't possible... i don't think your computer is leaking information to them. one thing i can think of is that google "fingerprinted" your vmware slice installation (os, font set, resolution, and other client side variables) along with browser version, plugins, timezone, city, and anything else that can be passed over to them to profile you. you'd be surprised at how unique all of our computers are when you consider what can be collected and shared from a browser. just think about all of the details google analytics collects.. and that is only what is USEFUL to people analyzing traffic.
bout to blow your mind:
http://panopticlick.eff.org/
^ unique over 2 million browsers!!!
.
Hmmm.... something to think about and test out for sure. I always install 2 or 3 firefox add ons before I make an account, I guess I'll try doing alot more than just that. Is there anyway FB can see like my specific version and serial # of the WIndows OS I'm using for that VM? Say they scan somehow for my serial # of windows and autoban that account?
03-15-2012 08:20 PM
#16
hd2010 (Member)
no matter how many VM you created, you still use that single connection to the outside world, from your public ip, I know you're from a single source
03-15-2012 09:21 PM
#17
pokersensei (Member)

Originally Posted by
paycoguy
Not only an expensive option but how would you ever know your tracking domain is banned? If you were pushing something halfway shady, you'd never know if the reason your acct was killed was because of that or your tracking domain that was on their "list."
You would obviously get new tracking domains also. It is like $10 per year.
03-16-2012 01:19 AM
#18
abcd (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by
Herd Burglar
Is there anyway FB can see like my specific version and serial # of the WIndows OS I'm using for that VM? Say they scan somehow for my serial # of windows and autoban that account?
Not possible.
Only if you would allow them to install extra software on your computer.
03-16-2012 02:14 AM
#19
hd2010 (Member)
@Herd : That would be dangerous if FB have access to anything connected
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