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Goal: $2500/day with Coreg (50)

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Hey there fellas, hope you're doing good!

I've been trying to bank with Coreg for the past month or so with mixed results. So I thought why not do a follow along and get there faster...so here's the squishy:

Traffic Sources: Facebook

I know most of you guys would advise against it, with facebook hating coreg and all, but I've got a good system going. I don't cloak on facebook for my coreg campaigns, all my ads get approved with no hassles. I've done about 400 ads now with a 100% approval rate. So, I strongly believe that if you make your lander look legit enough, FB has no problems with it. (Most of you make your coreg landers look like email submits for some reason I don't completely understand)

What I've done so far:

I've launched 40+ campaigns and I've found 3 that showed great potential. One kept breaking even, so I dumped it. Another one got DMCA'd just when it was really taking off. The last one made me $500+ profit on the very first day, but I had to move to a different house and it really messed things up - just after FB bumped my account limit to $5k, I got my address changed at the bank, but forgot to change it in my FB account...so when I spent $1.2k the next day, AVS got me. Waiting to get that account back now (hope I do lol).

In the meantime, considering how quickly FB can catch up with my methods, I'm looking at getting multiple accounts going..so that I keep working even if 1 or 2 go down.

And to keep things stable, lets throw in a couple of other traffic sources:

Lead Impact & Jumptap

Just learning the ropes with these two..never had a big one on either one. So I'm gonna ninja up a bit and work on multiple traffic sources & coreg models since I want to be making a stable $2500/day from this.

If I have a month where I average my daily goal everyday, I would consider myself a champ and take my girlfriend to Venice.

Note: I'm not gonna explain what I'm doing exactly (on Facebook), I'm sure you understand, but I'll post numbers everyday and try and get help in the best way possible

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good luck

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what kind of measures are you taking with coreg to get approved with fb? is it a disclaimer or specific angle that doesn't make it sound shady?

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can you elaborate on this? Do you not have a email submit on your LP?

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You might get ads approved now, but once they go though your LP and see you're running co-reg, expect to get retro'd/account disabled. If you wanna be safe, just cloak the path.

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@ibanez thanks!

@thefalcon @syfy I do collect their email addresses, but I have a solid privacy policy, and I'm using a specific angle.

So many angles you could take with Coreg...http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...g-still-viable

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Totally agree! But I'm losing about 15% of the users when using a cloaker...So right now I'm not using a cloaker when running traffic, but making sure the path isn't visible when the campaign isn't active. But I do feel that a 15% loss isn't worth losing an account.

Better be safe than sorry. Thanks!

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I'll be following this!

*search: coreg angles on the forums, there's a really good thread jroes started too

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I've got some similar goals, hoping to take it to the next level over the coming weeks.

Why do you lose 15% of user's cloaking? 15% of legitimate users or robots?

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@stackman Thanks! Yeah, that was a great thread...very creative! Me and partner thought we can take that angle to mobile and say 'Update Your iOS', 'Get the latest version of Android on your phone' or something...but it seemed a bit shady, so dropped the idea lol

@dalhaze 15% of real users, reviewers haven't gone through to the path so far. But I'm sure they will at some point, so I'm gonna count that 15% loss into the cost. Good luck with your campaigns, scale them up!

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Kick as Manu!

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Update:

I'm gonna be working this weekend!

Goal - 10 Coreg campaigns on Jumptap before Sunday night.

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I am from Gurgaon. Where r u from? Good Luck.....nice to see you rocking the forum

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Hey chilliflakes, I'm from Chennai. Are you going to ad:tech New Delhi?? I'll be there on the 23rd...

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just started in this stuff. so not sure about this year.......just noticed its expensive too.

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Update:

Put up 10 campaigns on Jumptap on Sunday night - all ads got rejected today due to some weird reason LOL

"Ad landing page must be relevant to product or service offered- banner advertises X but leads only to promotional offer."

I'm testing some other mobile coreg campaigns on another account without problems...not sure what the deal is here...I am giving them whatever I'm promising at the end of the path. Just sent an email to my rep explaining that the promotional offers on the path are optional.

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Spoke to a couple of cool STM peeps and learnt some new stuff (facebook!) - thank you guys

I'm setting up virtual machines and getting a couple of new fb accounts tomorrow. I realized that my biggest problem is being able to run traffic for only a few days a month due to various reasons (making banners/landers for too long, waiting on approvals, accounts going down, lazyness, etc). I'm always a few days behind my plans - need to work on that and improve!

Will update with stats in a couple of days!

@chilliflakes Its free to get into the Exhibit Hall and the Sponsored Workshops (whatever that means).

I'm not sure if this event will be that useful, but I'm going anyway!

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Just got back from ad:tech New Delhi...turned out to be a lot better than what I expected

Met some affiliates and other industry peeps....even stopped by facebook's booth and got an FB Ads contact (I told them we're an agency, and that we haven't tried our hand at FB Ads just yet lol) :P

Meanwhile I managed to hit $500/day profit a couple of days on FB....with steady $1 RPUs.

I've been trying weird things on JT and losing money so far. Also gave a shot at Airpush - $57 spent, $16 made - but Airpush I likey likey. After 10 days into this follow along, I feel it's best if I concentrate on the angles that are working for me at the moment on FB and take them to LI, JT, POF, etc.

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Facebook stats!

Feb 27: $160 spent, $122.40 made, -$37.60 net

^^I'm following polarbacon's advice on testing ads the right way. I started with $1 bids, so had to spend a bit to get the CPC down to 0.17 at the end of the day. Expecting the CPC to drop further.

Feb 28: $250 spent, $442.54 made, $192.54 net

The CPC dropped to 0.065 today, so I was able to profit

The current spend limit on this account is $250...my goal is to have 3 accounts ready by the start of next week so I can run more volume.

EDIT: About cloaking, my bleed rate has gone up to ~20% this time, so I'm not using the cloaker at the moment. I'm not gonna be cloaking the path (which is 2 pages deep)...I have to cloak the first page but I think I should have a chat with Dan before that to get a better idea of how to do this. I have way too many files and it gets a bit confusing

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Awesome turn around! Go for the gold!

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Good to hear its going well on FB! I'm currently working my ass of to get COREG to work on FB.
Tested 5 different angle, with one being profitabe (.70 RPU) with only 20% ROI.

How are you in testing angles/lp's with coreg? Do you test a bunch and find one that's getting higher rpu's ($1 +) right of the bat and optimise from there?
Or do you also try optimising campaings thats getting lets say .45 RPU of the bat?

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Yeah I quickly put up multiple campaigns, pick the ones that show potential and work on them.

0.70 RPU with 20% ROI is decent - you can make it work by tweaking your pages a bit.

For example, I use elements from the offers in the path like buttons, color themes, etc. Then I put in an intermediate page that said 'verifying your details..' (between my info gathering page & the path page) and it would redirect to the path after a few seconds. These two changes bumped my 0.60-0.70 RPUs to 0.90-$1.00

The exact same things may not work for you, but don't be afraid to test different things!

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I always try to improve my LP CTR wise to get more visitors to the path, and test a lot of text variations on page where the path is iframed to get a higher RPU. But never tried the things you said. Thanks for the great tip.

How about your demo's? are you only foccusing on high demo's (2 mil +) or do you also do tight targeted demo's (less than 300K) (which could yield higher RPU, but die soon)?

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Since I want to be making $2.5k/day consistently, I'm trying to get things to work on a broader basis...so the aim is to build campaigns that work for the entire country on fb Ideally I would like to take these campaigns to media buying, ppv, etc as well!

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great to see the progress. good going

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Great progress mate!

I have used the verifying your data in the past and worked wonders.

Another tip to increase RPUs is to add testimonials on the path page but on the top of the page ( the iframe will be under the testimonials )

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Thanks Besmir! Will try the testimonials for sure But wouldn't fake testimonials get me in trouble? How do I get them?

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Ask GT or Silverpath to get some real ones

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Stats!

Feb 29: $250 spent, $756.87 made, $506.87 net

The CPCs have dropped enough for me to start profiting. Now we wait for the bump on the spend limit, while also waiting for the bank to deliver me my new cards so I can open new FB accounts.

Looks good so far.

EDIT: Looks like an intern went through the lander to the path and all my ads are retro'd now. I really need to figure out how to cloak!

Submitting new ads now...oh well. This goes on to show how getting the ads approved isn't enough, just like what corp mentioned somewhere in this thread. Nothing's fool proof, gotta be prepared though!

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Nice man!

You def need to have a cloacker (contact polarbacon) to protect your account

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lifetweak on a kill streak!!!!!

That's so good man, push it harder bruzz!

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It's in the buy/sell section or you could just msg them directly.

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Good luck dude, youll hit hit that goal your momentum before was relentless!

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Hi Manu,

Being from india can you tell me how you are managing your credit cards? So if my account gets banned and i open with name of my brother or father who share same address will that be banned too with my account (if my account is banned) or not?

maybe you can share some insight that can help.

thanks buddy and hope you hit the target soon

thx

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I believe you have to drop them a PM or email mate.

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manu's nice chap.......he would reply as soon as he would see it ........also me not in hurry too

Think there are limited people from india in this forum and he is one who really inspires

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Hey chilliflakes, I got add on cards from Citibank and use them for new accounts. About the addresses, I'm making sure all the numbers are right -- like your door number / street / zip code etc....since AVS can only read numbers.

But wait, the page also says,

So there you go, maybe there's no AVS in a lot of countries. Maybe someone more experienced can pitch in here with their thoughts about the system.

So far I've learnt that a new cc, new address (except the numbers in the address), new email address, new VM, different browser footprints --- they seem to work for me. I'll create more accounts and post an update on this after a month or so.

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Any updates?

I'm interested in seeing how your fb accounts and revenues are holding up. Great job!

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his fb accounts were canned, just like mine :P

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^^LOL I've got another bunch, but I don't think I'll use them for coreg camps. Moving coreg over to PPV and media buying, I'll post some updates soon.

About the angle that I'm using, FB seems to be fine with it - but users complain like crazy when they see the pin submit on the path. So I'm keeping the angle and changing how I monetize it

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Update:

It's been more than 3 months since I started this thread and right now my revenues have dwindled back to zero. Looks like I need to put in more effort to crack PPV. I'm spending too much without any conversions to make the data useful. I think I need a better method to test things quickly. So this month has been a disappointment. But I'm sure I'll figure this out eventually.

About coreg on mobile traffic, I'm making some decent progress. Lots of potential for big solid campaigns here (no daily spend limits like on fb + when running coreg you own the offer).

I had a little chat with my rep on GT and learned that a guy is pulling ~$8k/day on mobile. If that dude can make it work, so can I

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Manu, what really happened? what are the main takeaways you learned from what worked, what didn't work? obviously you don't have to reveal everything... but as a reader of your thread, I'm clueless to what caused your coreg campaign to go from profitable to loss.

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My campaigns are in good shape but its a pain to keep them going on facebook (accounts last less than a week). So I've dropped all my profitable campaigns on FB and I'm taking them to PPV, Display and Mobile.

Major takeaways:

1) Make landers that look very legit. Ugly works for a lot of people, but for me, simple + beautiful seems to work amazingly well on FB....we're talking 40%-50% LP CVR for coreg and ~400% ROIs. I haven't cracked PPV or mobile yet, but I guess I'll take the same route with some sexy landers.
2) Use elements from the offers on the path, especially the first PIN submit...use its buttons, color themes, etc.
3) Almost 95% of the conversions are from the first PIN submit.
4) Get name, email, cell number for web traffic. Get just the cell number for mobile traffic.
5) Put in some thought before picking which traffic sources to work on if you're after consistent $x,xxx days. Many many networks are okay with coreg campaigns, and most of them don't have daily spend limits.
6) Have a decent system for testing new campaigns. Figure out a method to find losers quickly. You're more probable to find a loser than a winner -- so minimize what the losers cost you and your winning campaigns will pay for everything and some more.

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Okay, time for updates!

I'm dabbling a lot with mobile traffic right now, and I've learned some really cool things from this campaign:

1) Click discrepancy on mobile traffic is annoying - so I'm putting everything into a text file on my server and then analyzing data with excel pivot tables - this brought down the click discrepancy to almost zero.
2) On the web, I normally collect the user's cell number with 3 fields (xxx-xxx-xxxx), so I assumed it should be the same for mobile traffic as well....but then I looked at all the WAP PIN submits and noticed that they use single fields.....so I switched to a single field (xxxxxxxxxx) and this doubled the number of people entering their phone numbers.

I hope those of you running coreg on mobile devices are able to take this info and do something with it!

-60% ROI at the moment, pushin on ahead

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Were you autotabbing the phone # field? I'm curious if that's a mental thing or a, oh... I gotta click the next box, this sucks I quit type of thing.

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I normally autotab form fields on my lander...so I went with that, but when I tested my page on an actual device the autotab didn't work and I had to click on the next box lol, so I dropped it! Maybe it puts people off or something :P

Anybody know how to make autotab work on mobile devices?

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It should work still once javascript is on. Look for a mobile jquery solution.

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I don't think autotab works on iphones and from my tests single field does much better.

Also , don't give up on mobile coreg , it works ... works very well actually

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wish all the best with your coreg thing

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You mentioned you do coreg on FB - do they allow it or do you cloak?

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Definitely cloak that. They don't like email submits let alone coreg.

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