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158,237 Conversions And Ongoing (15)


06-14-2022 07:45 PM #1 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
158,237 Conversions And Ongoing

It´s time for a new green campaign but I keep it short this time

I extra don´t post is as a case study because it´s not finished, I still run these campaigns and will continue with it for some time.

A picture is worth a thousand words so let´s start with this one



And here are some facts

Clicks: 8,357,494
Conversions: 158,237
Cost: $220,137.51
Revenue: $279,786.28
Profit: $59,648.57

As usual, the real profit is a bit higher because I always set a higher clickloss in my tracker.

The actual number of conversions is also about 27k-30k higher, I had to reinstall my server some time ago and all stats from before are missing so I didn´t include these conversions in the stats above.

About the campaign

Alhough it´s many different campaigns in my tracker with several different offers it´s all from one vertical and I basically use the same one creative for all campaigns.

I run these campaigns in several different geos.

All the tracker campaigns can be run more or less exactly the same way so it´s like one big campaign.

About 98% of the traffic is Classic Push and as you can see from the screenshot I run most of the campaigns direct linked.

The profit would probably be higher when I would use more landing pages but to be honest, I am just too lazy.

It´s working good already direct linked so I run it that way

With landing pages it would probably also generate some nice additional revenue from push subs, 8.3 Million clicks isn´t that bad.

The payouts for the different offers range from $0.30-$87.00 and they also have different flows: CPL, CPS, CPL+CPS

The campaigns can run very stable for long time, I had one campaign running for more than a year on CPA goal so I don´t even have any work with it.

I still run the campaigns myself so I won´t post more details about it yet.

But I have something even better for you, soon I will post a guide how to easily run these offers yourself and maybe you can show similar stats then yourself soon


06-14-2022 08:10 PM #2 Rhino (Senior Member)

I have always had problem running same vertical in 1 push network (for long time).

My campaigns wud soon become saturated and ROI wud start declining.

These campaigns are run across how many push networks? And how many geos?

What do you do to make sure the campaigns don't become saturated...even after receiving 8.3 million clicks.

If my campaigns cud stay relevant after 8 million clicks..i wud have made millions of dollars(in revenue) by now.


06-14-2022 08:47 PM #3 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

@Rhino I not only run the same vertical for so long time, I even use more or less the same creative all the time.

Of course the performance can fluctuate from time to time but I run the campaigns in quite a few geos so something is always working.

These campaigns are run across how many push networks? And how many geos?
It´s mostly 6-7 networks and I run the campaigns in maybe 15-20 geos although the most traffic goes to maybe 5-6 geos.

If my campaigns cud stay relevant after 8 million clicks..i wud have made millions of dollars(in revenue) by now.
Did you ever run campaigns in India?

There it´s easy to run such click numbers.


06-14-2022 10:35 PM #4 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Is it just me who's super impressed by the fact that so many of these campaigns are direct linked???

I know it still possible with some verticals... but I thought it's way more scarce.

Great job!


06-15-2022 02:00 AM #5 vortex (Senior Moderator)

This is impressive! Looking forward to the tutorial!


Amy


06-15-2022 03:31 AM #6 quintyfresh (Senior Member)

@twinaxe

Skynet coming in hot. *shoots money cannons while blasting rebel yell by billy idol*

You know, I am actually not that surprised myself about the direct linking. I actually am finding an interesting mix myself. One of the big things you taught me right away (and there were many things you taught me btw) was that using simple proven LPs and creatives, even across different campaigns, GEOs, and sometimes even niches is really all it takes.

Push is simple. The traffic type is actually predictable, and once you find a hot offer you cram it as hard as you can. That's what this is, I know it. A great offer that an AI named twinaxe flagged as a potential winner and rolled it out to a bunch of GEOs.

Good work as usual. Carry on, making tons of money and making it look easy.


06-15-2022 01:32 PM #7 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo
Is it just me who's super impressed by the fact that so many of these campaigns are direct linked???
Yes, especially since we all know that direct linking is dead for years already

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo
I know it still possible with some verticals... but I thought it's way more scarce.
I also had times where I ran most campaigns with LPs but to be honest, nowadays I run pretty much stuff direct linked.

Good work as usual. Carry on, making tons of money and making it look easy.
And that´s it, the end results often look easy no matter how hard the way was to get there.

I also tested lots of offers (and when I say lots of offers I mean lots of offers) and lost a good chunk of money for the tests because I also had to learn the vertical a bit.

But in the end it´s worth it.


06-15-2022 05:57 PM #8 lightning (Member)

Very impressive!

In these global offers How many campaigns need to create for one offer?


06-16-2022 09:53 AM #9 larsometer (Senior Member)

And that´s it, the end results often look easy no matter how hard the way was to get there.

I also tested lots of offers (and when I say lots of offers I mean lots of offers) and lost a good chunk of money for the tests because I also had to learn the vertical a bit.
Would be really interesting to know what kept you going.

Was it "excitement" for the vertical or did initial test show promising results, or something different?

And... how long (weeks / months) did it take until you entered green territory for the first geos?

So many question... but I guess the answers would help to get some clarity how to achieve such things even if they would be on a much smaller scope.


06-16-2022 10:36 AM #10 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by larsometer View Post
Would be really interesting to know what kept you going.

Was it "excitement" for the vertical or did initial test show promising results, or something different?
I think Sebastian simply loves to torture himself by running 100s of tests at a time

Or maybe... Some of us play videogames, this is his way of relaxing


06-16-2022 11:14 AM #11 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

In these global offers How many campaigns need to create for one offer?
It can easily be xx campaigns per offer.

Let´s say I have a multi geo offer:

1 offer x 5 geos x 5 traffic sources x 3 freshness targetings = 75 campaigns

It´s just a rough example and there are not necessarily that many campaigns per offer but as you can see the number of campaigns can increase very easy.

Would be really interesting to know what kept you going.
That´s a good question.

Was it "excitement" for the vertical or did initial test show promising results, or something different?
The first results were ok but nothing special.

I think a main factor was intuition, just a gut feeling that it could be worth it.

When I then did some research and saw that there are offer available in many different geos, with different payouts and flows it just confirmed my feeling that it could be good to test more.

And... how long (weeks / months) did it take until you entered green territory for the first geos?
That didn´t take long, after few tests I had already good results for some offers.

I even got several payout bumps offered without asking for it, there I knew it could be good

When I started to test more I also started to lose more money but that´s just normal and I was totally prepared for it.

When I spot a chance I prefer to test many things as fast as possible to get quick results, even when it means that I lose more money that way compared to testing slow but safe.

Then I had a timeframe where I only ran already proven offers so that the performance was always good.

When I started to think about making a guide for that vertical I wanted to check for more potential and tested many new offers, also different conversion flows and stuff.

These tests resulted in few k $ revenue but at about $1k-$1.5k or so losses.

But that was also ok and I was prepared for it, that´s just how mass testing often works.

In the end it gave me many stats and results to work with.


06-17-2022 05:20 AM #12 lightning (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by twinaxe View Post
It can easily be xx campaigns per offer.

Let´s say I have a multi geo offer:

1 offer x 5 geos x 5 traffic sources x 3 freshness targetings = 75 campaigns

It´s just a rough example and there are not necessarily that many campaigns per offer but as you can see the number of campaigns can increase very easy.

Thanks!

And where can I find the Multi-Geo's offers?

I'm working for a ClickDealer right now and most of the SOI offers are single Geo, so I'm stuck and even if I can make a profit it's hard to scaling.

I only know of global CPL/CPA offers like Haka or TC's Click2sms or Click2Call.


06-17-2022 06:36 AM #13 larsometer (Senior Member)

And where can I find the Multi-Geo's offers?
Clickdealer has multi-geo offers. Basically all offers with many flags are multi-geo. Just ask your AM and don't focus on the word SOI too much.

Zeydoo also has several multi geo cpi and surveys. Mobidea might be another option.


06-18-2022 11:37 AM #14 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Gambling, Crypto, Nutra, Ecom, Cleaners, VPN, Dating...

There are many multi geo offers out there, larsometer already gave good example.


06-18-2022 07:17 PM #15 affpayinggao (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by twinaxe View Post

I still run the campaigns myself so I won´t post more details about it yet.

But I have something even better for you, soon I will post a guide how to easily run thes offers yourself and maybe you can show similar stats the yourself soon
This is fantastic. I'm looking forward to your guide. Keep up the good work mate


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