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Young man with a dream (25)

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After reading a few follow alongs on here from the likes of jaybot and quintyfresh, it has motivated me to create my own
At the minute i'm currently completing the 40 day course, on step 10 after just launching my guided campaign with propellerads.
Not really much more to say for now so i'll just show a few screenshots. I'll update again tomorrow after getting some results from my initial tests. Please let me know what type of details I should add to my updates

GEO: Sri lanka
OFFER TYPE:1 Click ($0.32)
Traffic type: POP-Propeller
Mobile only
Direct Linking

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Very nice! Follow alongs have helped countless affiliates to become successful and I don't see a reason why you couldn't be the next one!

BTW: when posting screens, please update the images to imgur and then post the BBcode embed URLs into your post.

I went ahead and fixed the 2 screens in your opening post

The image function in vbulletin is buggy and doesn't work in a reliable way.

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Hey brother so glad to see you get a follow along started! Just work at it day by day. My absolute failure and mess of a follow along inspired you? Yay that's what I hoped it would do!

@matuloo is right about using imgur. Twinaxe has a guide on this right here: Guide

Don't get discouraged, and post when you are confused or need help. I will do my best with my limited experience to help, and others who are leagues beyond me will help more. There really aren't any stupid questions, once again I would refer you to my stuff. I am making mistakes left and right but these glorious heathens are helping me sort it out.

One last thing, a dream is something that you wish would happen. You don't have to wish you can be successful with this.

Success is the progressive realization of a worthy goal. - Earl Nightingale

That means if you are actively working towards something worthwhile you are already a success. Keep it up!

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Great start @aiden_l! So nice to see an FA by you.

Direct-linking is great to start with! Have you reached the lessons on landing pages yet?



Amy

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@aiden l Last christmas I shared a multi language landing page for adult/dating offers that auto translates in about 50 different languages.

You can find it HERE

Maybe it´s useful for you as well when you run dating

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21/03/22

Hi guys, thank for the words of encouragement and confidence!

A mini update about last night, the sri lanka offer didn't get one conversion. That's fine though because I know why.

1.I wasn't using a landing page
2.I was sending traffic to them in the odd hours in the night.

I launched a few more smaller campaigns testing the built in LP on mobipium, Indonesian 1 click game offer ($0.20) and Kenyan pin sub ($0.89). I will give them a day or so to see how they perform. Hopefully some better results, instead of letting the ad burn $10 of my testing budget, I'm going to keep a closer eye on the campaigns to keep it more in line with the 10x PO rule.

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To answer your question I have reached the lessons about LP with landerlab and Adplexity.

So this month I completely forgot it was mothers day so the remaining budget I set aside for myself is now been used to purchase a few gifts, so I have just bought landerlab but not adplexity ( 10th april, when I next get paid). I was wondering if you could do me a huge favour and point me to a link on the forum where I could download some ripped sweeps and gaming LP's?

@aiden l Last christmas I shared a multi language landing page for adult/dating offers that auto translates in about 50 different languages.

You can find it HERE

Maybe it´s useful for you as well when you run dating

Thank you for the dating lp @twinaxe, I will add it to the collection

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Hey guys, kinda fucked up

Past few days been launching camps with Binom and propeller, everything running fine, no problems whatsoever.

Now I come back in from work to see one of my propeller camps got rejected, read the reason and checked out my link and was greeted with this. I'm at a total loss as to what button I have turned off or accidently edited. Any 1 technical can you please advise me as to what I have done wrong and how I go about fixing it. I have not set up amazon s3 (so I don't know why its saying wrong bucket) or used any external landers (only built in ones).

https://imgur.com/a/G8KbWYf

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Give us more information.

- Where are your landers stored? Can you send URLs?
- What do you mean by built-in ones?

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I second what @jeremie said. We need more information. From what I can decipher...you said..

One? So the others are fine? Is this one direct linked by chance in Binom? Are you direct linking in rotation with your LPs? Propeller could have caught the offer down in that case. I don't want to jump to conclusions but if 1 page is down and the rest are okay and that page was working OK when you started the campaign then maybe its a DL offer. If its in fact a LP you made we need more data.

This is what made me think this by the way.

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Post the campaign link so some of us can actually see this in real time, @jeremie is really good at detecting these tech problems.

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Hi guys thanks for your concern and willingness to help. It was a landerlab issue I assume. I hadn't set that up correctly so that's why the domain was fucked. Basically retraced my steps on the landerlab lesson and set it up again and it now works like normal.

Unfortunately for me though my boss gave me a message early hours last night informing me I'm on a longer shift for the next week or so. I'm still going to try and make time to launch multiple campaigns and learn other cpa stuff.

You may not see another update for a few days or so, this doesn't mean I have given up, just have other life commitments I need to deal with first.

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Glad you were able to figure out what the problem was!

And no worries, whenever you have some more questions or need assistance, we will be here

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You can find some in the landing page depository - but those may be a bit outdated.

Give me a list of geos and sweeps prizes and I'll rip you some! But you'll need to fix them up yourself though - do you have experience on how to do that?

(I'm planning to download and fix up a BIG batch of landers to add to the depository soon, but please don't wait for that. If I need to have a batch fixed up just for you for now I'll do that - will take a few days though - let me know!)



Amy


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Hi Amy, thanks for the reply

If you could rip me some iPhone, Samsung and generic gift card ones for English and Italian that would be great!

In terms of fixing up landers, I currently don’t have experience however I’m sure my brother would be able to advise me on what to do. He’s quite good with stuff like that.

Thanks for your help, hope all is well.


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Here you go!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvujt23fl6...alian.zip?dl=0

These should keep you and your brother busy for a while!

There's a lot of overlap between some of these landers. I've ripped ones with different prizes. It's not necessary to clean up different landers for different prizes - it may be easier to just clean up for example one survey lander and just swap the images and text descriptions for the prizes.

Also please be careful when running on PropellerAds or other sources that are on the strict side of compliance: They don't like the use of trademarked logos on landers so be sure to remove them.

Have fun! Let me know if you need anything else.



Amy

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Hi guys long time no see! Like I say I haven't had much time to test camps, only managed to launch 2...

Here are the results of the first one:



Still no conversions Hope they come sooner rather than later. It was a simple conversion flow, all they had to do is answer 2 survey questions. Since it was multi geo I asked my AM which ones are working well, apparently brazil and ghana were killing it so I was expecting to make some revenue. Tested a few other geos that were meant to work like Philippines, Malaysia etc. Unfortunately no luck so I ended up killing it after around $15.

Results of the 2nd camp:




Antivirus offer-Indonesian, used landerlab lp.
Lp used:




Spent another $11 on testing, got no conversions, it it what it is we move on. I'm more impressed with the amount of knowledge I have gained on things like cleaning LP, hosting, other useful shit

I know that if I keep persevering I will start to see success, it may take 6 months, may take a year but i'm in for the long haul. Hopefully in a few weeks time when my shifts go back to normal I can start increasing the volume of offers I test and start to see some revenue (profit is not priority atm)

I'll update the thread again when I have spent some more $$$


P.s Is there a way to improve the clickloss? I know 25-30% is average for pops on propeller but is there anything I can personally start doing to reduce the loss?

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Also just realised I have been uploading the screenshots wrong, I have been posting the actual link instead of using the bb code. Next time I update I will start doing it that way. Sorry guys

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Hey Man,

So a just a few simple things here to say...LAUNCH! LAUNCH LIKE THE WORLD IS ENDING!

Okay okay, that's a little much, but seriously. Launch lots of stuff. I am quickly learning this is just a numbers game. Throw 2 campaigns at the wall, low chance something works. Launch 20 things at the wall, some things stick around. Also, I started with the concept that not every campaign has to be a world shattering success. I am realistic so even a SMALL campaign that can produce $3-$5 a day is a HUGE step in the right direction. I am sure you are thinking the same thing, if you aren't you should.

Yes, you will. But here the best advice I can give you based on my own issues in the last month of testing like crazy. Don't repeat the same thing over and over when it fails. You will go nuts. Switch up offer types, LPs, GEOs. I stuck with SOI sweeps, and Poland for nearly a thousand dollars. Never made any real headway. Switched offers and mindset and things started to change. I also can understand the burnout from work + AM. But do you want some hard love? I talk to myself this way so maybe it will help you too.

Everything worth doing is VERY DIFFICULT and takes TIME and EFFORT. If you want to succeed beyond others you have to PUT IN THE WORK beyond others. There is an old saying, that goes (its a metaphor obviously):

Most people stand in front of the wood stove and say, give me heat. They don't realize that until they put wood in the fireplace, there isn't gonna be any heat. It works the same with everything else. Bust your ass like no one else is and you will do just fine. Look at @ScottyG follow alongs and you will see. He builds like he is on crack and he GETS results. Many others on here are like that too. Also your logs don't have to be perfect per se. Old german saying:

"Krummes Holz gibt auch gerades Feuer."

Even crooked logs make a straight fire. So launch and you will learn tons more than any reading can help you. Sorry for my long rant man, but this is all meant to motivate you to continue and succeed.

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Uuuh man I know how frustrating this can be. Without conversions the whole AM thing can be quite frustrating and feel like a scam.

@quintyfresh is totally right with everything he wrote.

Basically most of the offers don't shine. So you need to find the ones that do. Luckily a good offer usually works even with a mediocre lander. Also it is possible to generate XXXX profits with a 5cent offer.

To find such an offer you usually have to test dozens of things over weeks. Of course the more you test the better your skills will get. It is like with a good fisherman who already has an idea where to place his nets.

Anyhow... now I gonna tell you how you get conversions

Get some mainstream smartlinks and run them in SEVERAL geos where pop traffic is cheap. You don't need any landers for that.

Go for distributed traffic and set a low budget like 10 USD/day.

In case you want to try landers....

Go to Trafficcompany and try their IVR and click2sms offers. You can choose several landers from their inventory and play around with that. Ask your AM which geos he currently recommends.

Just to set expectations right....

Both approaches will bring you conversions. You most likely will NOT make profits (in the beginning). Call yourself lucky if you do. Best is to regard the whole thing just as training.

Once you get conversions your game reaches the next level. Then it is about getting more of them and finding patterns to run campaigns profitable.

In this regard... also have a look at the 1 Dollar Guide. It is an excellent entry into this "game".

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Really solid advice from @quintyfresh and @larsometer!

@aiden l I took the liberty of fixing your imgur links - hope that's OK!)

Note your fault - so many people advise to "stick with one vertical and geo until you make it work", which is normally sound advice - except when it comes to pop.

Pop is mainly about ripping the most popular landers and then testing a shit-ton of offers. Doesn't mean it won't pay off to innovate on your landers and get better translations - but there's not a whole lot of research and testing involved regarding stuff like audience targeting and advertising angles.


Amazing advice for beginners! @aiden l mindset and beliefs play HUGE roles in success/failure. Right now you haven't started getting conversions, so a part of you may still have trouble believing this "affiliate marketing stuff" is real.

Running smartlinks or offers that 1)typically have small payouts and 2)cover many geos, is a sure way to get some initial conversions. You just need something to get you over that next hump - from not getting conversions to getting SOME conversions.

These offers are also great for cutting placements for cheap, because the payouts are low.

Then the next time you test individual offers in the same geos, you won't need to waste as much money, because the worst placements have already been cut.

You're making massive progress! The first steps are always the most difficult - you've come far in a short time. You have every reason to be proud.



Amy

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Thank you all for your input really appreciated.

I will carry on testing multiple geos and different verticals for single offers, I will also launch a few smartlink camps using mobipiums and zeydoo's for now. Like I say, profit is not the objective at this stage, gaining knowledge and broadening my horizons is. Since smartlinks don't need that much to set up and research I could probably launch 4 or 5 and just collect data for certain geos.

This sounds like the next logical step in my journey.

Edit: Quickly just launched 2 ww smartlinks I'll check on them in a few days once the budget is spent.

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Whats everyones opinions on pop? Do you think it's good to stick with? Should I be looking towards push asap? Interested to know peoples thoughts.

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Well POPs... that's an interesting "beast" It was supposed to die so many times already, but somehow it still sticks around.

We've been talking to some networks for the purpose of compiling the Whats Working Report 2022 and there were some who actually reported an increase in the available volumes... looks like this traffic format is here to stay, no matter what

When I should compare POPs and PUSH based on my own experience, POPs actually seem to be a bit more predictable and even though the quality isn't that great, in many cases it seems to be more stable than what I've experienced with PUSH.

The volumes in POPs is nowhere close to where it used to be a few years ago, so I don't think this is a format that can make many people rich... though some definitely make solid dough with it.

I'd like to hear the opinion of @twinaxe or @jaybot as both are or were buying POPs at a significant scale

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If you're planning on going into push, I would suggest to stick with pop for a while, until you get the hang of testing massively - it will take some time to develop your own system, and pop is the cheapest traffic to use.

Once you're familiar with pop, it really can't hurt to diversify into push. It's more expensive but because you have an extra tool for preselling to users, i.e. the push ad creative, you can more easily promote offers that require more preselling than you can accomplish with pop (e.g. offers that require the user to pay money upfront instead of just entering their email).

Of course, if saving on test budget isn't the top priority, by all means start testing push now.

In terms of profits potential though: For pop, a few years ago it used to be possible to do semi-stable 5-figure days - when I was running at volume. These days, I just don't hear of anyone doing numbers like those anymore - neither for pop nor push.

If you have a good system where you're testing more new stuff on a regular basis (particularly offers), and you have access to enough traffic volume from enough networks/sources, you can still expect semi-stable 3-figure days. Stable 4-figure days would be more difficult without some type of moat/advantage.

Ultimately, to make the big bucks as an affiliate, social and/or google would be the way to go.

Native has good volumes as well (although nowhere near social/google) but requires larger budgets to test and optimize offers than pop/push.

Worth mentioning: If you have the test budget required, you don't need to "master" pop/push before diving into native/social/google. Pop and push involves less innovation and more systematic, massive testing. Whereas social and google especially require spending time on creatives - testing different advertising angles and visuals until you hit on profitable creatives for a particular audience and offer type.

Have fun whatever you may decide to pursue!



Amy

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