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Struggling to set up server and Binom (22)

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Hi guys I have a bit of an issue.

I'm not very good with programming and code unfortunately (working on it). So I went to set up Binom following the instructions provided on the 40 day guide by vortex and have hit a wall. I have set up a droplet on digital ocean, made notes of the ip address, server login and password however when I enter the exact details into putty it accepts the server ip and the login name but refuses to accept the password even though its correct. Just flashes up a message saying access denied. On the Binom blog it says I just need to right click and the password I have copied down will automatically be placed within the line of code. I'm completely lost and was just looking for some support. I've noted down all 4 instructions on the thread to further show what i'm trying to explain. Hopefully someone whos more experienced with this sort of stuff can help, thanks for reading my post
1. Download Putty
2. Start it, in the Host Name (or IP address) field enter your IP, click Open


3. In the pop-up window click Yes

4. Enter your login/password (input characters will not be shown on the screen). You can simply copy your password and paste it into Putty by clicking the right mouse button:

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I'm not good with server things too so I always ask someone to setup these things for me

If I'm not wrong, Binom offers a service to install their tool for you, have you considered asking their support to handle this for you? It might be the fastest way to get it running.

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I'll give that a go tomorrow night, if they can set it up for me that would be amazing. Didn't realise they could set up the server as well as Binom

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Hey Aiden. I can help you out with this.

1. You can skip putty altogether and use the built in command console in your Droplet. First go to your project or droplet list and select your one for Binom.



2. In the screen overview for your droplet select console:




3. You get a new pop up window with your root user already logged in.

4. Then run the commands at this page under "Auto installation step by step". https://docs.binom.org/install.php

5. A few things to be sure of or you will have issues like I did...

DO NOT proxy your tracker in cloudflare if you are using that. You can proxy your LP domains but DO NOT proxy your tracker. It will mess up, throw login error code #105 and won't work. What I mean is shut off proxy like this (it will be on by default when you load up a new site to cloudflare) this step is only if you are using cloudflare.



Once again this can be ON for LP domains and that's fine. Also, when your tracker works, setup a LP domain separate of your tracker to defend your main tracker from GSB bans or similar. You can do that by adding a LP domain with this command...

bash /root/binom_install.sh lpdomain

Then enter a different domain you have purchased for your landing pages (.xyz is literally $1 on namecheap for these domains). Point the LP domain DNS to the same place your tracker DNS is setup. Make them identical in their DNS settings except PROXY the LP domain if using cloudflare.

You should now be able to load up landing pages, etc with Filezilla or similar to your LPs domain. That way when you run a campaign users land on landing pages with a different URL than your tracker base.

ALSO, your droplet MUST BE A BLANK DROPLET TO WORK RIGHT. DO NOT USE ANY MARKET DISTRIBUTIONS. Just do a blank ubuntu 20.04 LTS x64 type. It's easy to erase droplets and start fresh if you mess it up.

Hope all this helps. Like I have said tons of times, I can setup tech stuff just fine but am pulling my hair out trying to find profitable campaigns...Hoping all this good karma comes around in the cosmos at some point. If you get stuck post here and I will help you get it worked out.

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Thats golden quintyfresh, thanks so much for posting this!

It will eventually! Helping people is great, you never know who and how returns it, sometimes just a small tip can be the game changing element

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Thanks for your reply mate, very much appreciated. I don't believe in karma but I hope your luck turns around soon How long you been programming and coding? Did you used to work as a programmer or did you pick it all up since you started CPA?

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Quick follow up:

To move LPs to your server from your computer use FileZilla: https://filezilla-project.org/downlo...platform=win64

Once you have that do this:

Click this button in the corner to add a site.



Enter the details like this:



Once you connect to the server, make sure you click the "/" folder or you won't see the proper folders to access your LP domain. Click this folder in the top:



Now scroll to "var", then "www", then you will see your domains in there. Go into the one that will be your LPs. Make folder by right clicking on the server side window and make new directory. If you name it "iphone" then place your LP in there you can access it with: http://yoursite.com/iphone/lppage.html

Once again, hope this information helps you ahead of time before getting stuck here. Get some LPs up, and start running traffic (and losing money without finding success if you're like me).

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Sorry didn't see your message before I posted last. I have been computer programming for about 10 years. Visual basic 6 (dinosaurs roam there now), VB.NET, then into PHP, WordPress, JS, amongst other things. I am exceptional at building API relays and programs that manage data, do actions etc. I just have to get my marketing into a spot where it actually makes money lol.

You don't have to be a good programmer to be a good affiliate marketer. It just helps cut down on the time of waiting for others to solve stuff for you. But these guys already pulled my ass out of the fire with GSB (google safe browsing) bans. I had never experienced it before which is strange as an older PPV traffic runner. Anyway, there really isn't much in the form of tech that I get stuck at. I am also a blood hound for the answer, and programming problems literally don't let me sleep.

I have been working on affiliate marketing from about 8pm to 2am the last 25ish days after regular day and spending time with kids before they go to sleep. Really working hard to get things successful. If you are going to run sweeps, that's what I did. I have a follow along that's walls of text. I am still updating it. Probably going to work on higher payout non-conventional stuff for push because the low payout sweeps have been difficult to get to success. They all convert, just consistency is the dilemma. If only the marketing was as easy as the programming for me.

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Consistency is my main issue at the minute because on top of doing AM I have to work 174 hour months, so most of the time I just cannot be bothered. I can only imagine how much more difficult it is when you need to look after a family.

Been doing CPA on and off for about 10 months now. It's getting to the point where my shitty job is just taking over my life, but i'm not dumb, I know I need to be matching my monthly salary before I can quit. That's what's fuelling my motivation at the minute, need to stay disciplined though and keep pushing everyday. My brother has been doing cpa for 14 years and is very successful at it so it has allowed him to travel the world and live in all these exotic European cities. He is another big motivation for myself.

Really gonna knuckle down and try and crack pops then might move onto push in the future. Sweeps seems to be the way to go as they are the only thing with mass appeal that would work for pop traffic.

Sorry for writing this long tangent, just needed to get a few thoughts out of my head

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Also have you tried cc subs for sweeps? Those could be 10-20 dollars per conversion, I know they're harder to convert but you never know until you give it a go.

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Yeah I have spent about $700 playing around with sweeps SOI on push returned about $160ish. Most everything crashes off the cliff like wile e. coyote after the first day or 2 and ends at -50%ish or worse. I am going to do another update to my follow along showing pretty much my whole tracker. I tried a few pops campaigns, traffic is much faster for sure so watch your bids and daily limits harder. Also a little advice as I am working super duper hard at trying to think more outside the box with pops and push as I have been reliably instructed to do. Think about it like this....

Literally every single newbie, rookie, whatever it's called starts by saying "pops and sweeps" "push and sweeps", etc. I fell into this "box" as well. I am starting to think it is probably worth while to think about other things besides sweepstakes. OR, if you are going to run sweeps further which I might also do as well, maybe search for offers that aren't as super common. I have run Iphones, samsungs, ipads, giftcards, blah blah blah. Like blackemil said, these users are SLAMMED with these offers literally every waking minute of everyday. Still works though, I have plenty of CVs with it. LPs get great CTRs, nearly all my campaigns are at 25%+ in the CTR department. Spinwheel, survey and giftbox LPs get great CTR. Offers just so low pay and don't convert consistently at least for me.

I am working very long hours as well. I am a contractor by trade and actually flip houses (has been family business for awhile) so my days are ususally 7am to the house to work on, home by 5, kids until 8:30 with wife, shower eat after kids are asleep, work on AM until I am too tired to continue, watch myself lose money over and over without losing the will to keep going forward and learn. I fully understand the burnout feeling you are talking about with long hours. Family business has no weekends by the way. We usually take a day off every 2 or so weeks. Edit: some nights I am so tired I fall asleep at my keyboard with STM open, and stats open..

This is all just my experience. Others here have way more and can share their prospective on this. CC is what I was considering as well, but I am also looking at casino (I literally made a video talking about it right when @ScottyG decided to give Casino a go) as that's what I made money with in 2014. No problem about rambling my posts are always way too long and I am just not sorry about it at this point. Lol.

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Tbf for sweeps I do try to avoid the obvious like you said, i try to look at whats going on in my region and make campaigns based on those events. So for example in the uk and europe in general the price of petrol (or gas in the states) is increasing to a ridiculous amount, the price of electric is skyrocketing and so are car prices due to lack of the coding chips that go into the cars or whatever. I then try promote these niche offers through pops and push but since they are quite different its very difficult to find good offers for these things. On six networks I have seen 2 sweeps offers for a years worth of petrol or electric or car insurance. I guess one thing that comes with experience is being able to find these gems on networks.
For both our sakes I hope our constant efforts will lead us towards profitable campaigns, you have a new follower of your FA

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Sounds like you have a plan.

I always try to remember the only way to 100% sure fire way to NOT succeed is to quit, give up or have no belief in yourself. I refuse to believe others can do it and I cannot. AS Winston Churchill put it:

"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm."

I am trapped in this phase but am confident I will eventually come out of it with constant struggle and the help of this community. If you stay at it you will too. Once again, if your tracker or LPs setups give you trouble post here and I will do my damn best to help you get it sorted out.

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@quintyfresh @aiden l You guys are super-inspiring! I'm very much enjoying your exchange and mutual encouragement.

Mindset is EVERYTHING. You'll both go far with your attitude and determination.

Also: Although pop and push are IN GENERAL relatively easier and cheaper than other traffic types, there ARE other types of traffic to test! I'm not suggesting to keep jumping around, but different people find success with different things. So if after a while, nothing pops in a big way (no pun intended), and something new catches your eye and you're inspired to give it a shot, by all means!

It must be incredibly challenging having to keep a job (and to raise a family in @quintyfresh's case) while trying to make a second living online, but this way you both have practically NO deadlines for achieving success. This gives you both leeway to chase your passions, and/or even build assets with solid foundations that can make money year after year.

All the best to the both of you!



Amy

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@vortex
I went through your $1 campaign and loved it, spent around $15 and made $5 in revenue. The money spent was small but the wealth of knowledge I gained was immense. Now like I said i'm not exactly new to cpa but this time i'm just trying to forget everything I know and start a fresh with the help of the lovely people on the forum. Time is also on my side since I'm only 17, no rush whatsoever. Going to start doing the 40 day guide soon once I have some free time and have everything I need ready to go(rather set up my server and tracker before I begin anything else). I don't know whether to start a FA for the 40 day guide or after I have completed it. Only thing is with a FA I never know how much detail and what type of details I need to give so I can be advised or assisted. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it

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Wow, 17 years.

I guess you're one of the youngest users here.

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I never really thought about it, I think you might be right though

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Aiden:

My advice on this:

Don't worry about the details. If you want/need help make a FA and update it constantly if you are running campaigns. Twinaxe, Larsometer, Vortex, Jeremie, cmdeal, Matuloo, Blackemil, and many others will jump in to give you pointers. But out of everything here is my biggest advice on FA. DO NOT CARE ABOUT SHOWING YOUR DATA, LPS, ETC.

I am pretty much showing everything I have, LPs, offer, what network, traffic source, etc. Why?

1. In order to learn and get pointers people need full context
2. Everything I have loses, and when it doesn't I still don't care because I am learning how to create more and more. So 1 offer, angle, whatever doesn't matter overall.
3. Others can read your follow along, see all the stuff you tried, and skip all of the bullshit where you shot yourself in the foot. It's a big help to others and it lives on this forum forever. You are helping donate your efforts to the betterment of a community as a whole. The cosmos will repay you in one way or another (even if you don't believe in good karma it believes in you and will reward you anyway) and opportunities will knock on your door more often. It's the way it goes. Serendipity to the max.

If you start a FA, don't be afraid to share real data. It's what I am doing. You've seen it already in all it's losing glory. But it won't stay that way forever. You will see that too.

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Very true, so many people try and hide some details, while it's absolutely not necessary. I've actually written an article here on the forum about this "phenomenon", check it out: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...copied-Stop-it!

On the other hand, please bear in mind that sharing EVERYTHING can be overwhelming at times, so stick to the important things, it's not necessary to share 100 screenshots of even the smallest campaigns you have in the mix. Basically, try to keep it reasonable, if you're getting lost in your posts yourself, it was probably too much information

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@matuloo Yeah my FA is way to long and boring. Writing way to much. All future updates will be be way shorter and to the point. I appreciate the advice on that.

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Oh shit. I have competition for long and boring!

Write however you like, it's your FA.

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@aiden l 17! Oh wow! You REALLY have your whole life ahead of you! With some persistence you may never need to anyone else again in your life. When I first started out online everyone thought online marketing was a scam and working for a big corporation and moving up was the ideal way to progress in life. Even today many people from the older generation still believes that! But times have changed. Many, MANY people are waking up to the fact that working for other people isn't the only way to make a living. Please continue to listen to your intuition and follow your passion, and ignore anyone that tries to tell you you can't make it work. There are a million ways to make a living online - you only need to get ONE going, and go from there.

To create a follow-along for the 40-day tutorial - here's the section:

https://stmforum.com/forum/forumdisp...-Follow-Alongs

I wouldn't suggest to stay with pop for too long, but it IS relatively the cheapest and easiest to run and to learn the basics with.


@quintyfresh I literally cannot agree with you more - especially your point 3. The Universe will always give you back what you put out. It may not be from the same place you give to, or happen right away, but it will happen. It's the law.



Amy

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