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03-01-2022 01:33 AM #1 anthonyh (Senior Member)
What clicks...

What is it that clicks and makes it to where a person is able to create consistent profitable campaigns after spending months or even years without a single or little-to-no profitable campaigns?

What is it that a person discovers?

Also...

What should I be learning from each failed campaign?

Because it seems like all I'm doing is picking offers, creating campaigns, and if it fails, I move on the next one not really knowing why it failed or what I should be learning from it.


Traffic source: Microsoft ads
Niche: Health
Budget: $50 a day

Been at it for almost 2 years

Thanks.


03-01-2022 06:42 AM #2 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

What is it that clicks and makes it to where a person is able to create consistent profitable campaigns after spending months or even years without a single or little-to-no profitable campaigns?

What is it that a person discovers?
I would say it's the moment when you have your first really successful campaign.

A campaign that is so good that it compensates losses from hundreds of failed campaigns.

I can imagine that it's really hard to stay motivated when you don't succeed but once you have such a campaign you'll see that all the talk that affiliate marketing can work that good is really true.

What should I be learning from each failed campaign?
In the end there's not that much to learn from one failed campaign because you can't really tell if it failed because of the traffic or the offer or the landing page.

But when you try the same stuff over and over again and it fails every time then you should learn from it that you better try something else.

Traffic source: Microsoft ads
Niche: Health
Budget: $50 a day

Been at it for almost 2 years
So for almost two years you try to get health offers running on Microsoft Ads with $50 budget per day?

Why did you choose that setup?

Microsoft Ads are not the easiest traffic source, health vertical is pretty competitive and $50 budget per day is not much.

Long story short, there are many better combinations to run.


03-01-2022 10:52 AM #3 anthonyh (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by twinaxe View Post
So for almost two years you try to get health offers running on Microsoft Ads with $50 budget per day?

Why did you choose that setup?

Microsoft Ads are not the easiest traffic source, health vertical is pretty competitive and $50 budget per day is not much.

Long story short, there are many better combinations to run.
The guy I was learning from said he started with only like $10 a day a few years ago so I figured I had a good chance.

The information in this industry is all over the place.

Some people say that Microsoft is a great place to start, others say Push, but the traffic quality isn't that good (lots of bots), the campaigns fizzle out quick, and it's difficult to consistently make good money with $1 SOI offers.

Then they mention that the glory days of Facebook are over and has become too difficult for newer affiliates.

Native needs a budget of at least 10k unless your running tier 3 geos.

I'm hearing that Youtube and Tik Tok are the "blue oceans" right now so I'm experiencing some serious at FOMO at the moment.

My overall goal is just to eventually quit my job and do this full time. I make about $1500 a week so as long as I'm able to replace that income, I'm 100% cool.

But, I digress.

What would you suggest for someone with a $50 a day budget?


03-01-2022 11:43 AM #4 ScottyG (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by anthonyh View Post
The guy I was learning from said he started with only like $10 a day a few years ago so I figured I had a good chance.

The information in this industry is all over the place.

Some people say that Microsoft is a great place to start, others say Push, but the traffic quality isn't that good (lots of bots), the campaigns fizzle out quick, and it's difficult to consistently make good money with $1 SOI offers.

Then they mention that the glory days of Facebook are over and has become too difficult for newer affiliates.

Native needs a budget of at least 10k unless your running tier 3 geos.

I'm hearing that Youtube and Tik Tok are the "blue oceans" right now so I'm experiencing some serious at FOMO at the moment.

My overall goal is just to eventually quit my job and do this full time. I make about $1500 a week so as long as I'm able to replace that income, I'm 100% cool.

But, I digress.

What would you suggest for someone with a $50 a day budget?

If you make $1,500 a week, that's what I was earning when I went full time, just start spending more.

Also, trying the same thing over and over again without changing anything is insane mate, try different traffic sources, different verticals.

Like always, for new killers, you want to run a low-payout, variable offer.

You are looking for an offer that should convert roughly 25% to be successful, ask reps or search for low-payout/revshare leadgen offers.

Now when you run your ads, you're not going to hit this. But, you know exactly what you do need to hit to become profitable.

Start changing creative and landing page combinations until you go green or atleast hit the recommend conversion ratio for the offer.

This is the fastest way to learn what actually works for your traffic source.

Also, get off Microsoft Ads lol, TikTok is a blue ocean, hit it.


03-01-2022 12:07 PM #5 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

The guy I was learning from said he started with only like $10 a day a few years ago so I figured I had a good chance.
Few years ago is few years ago.

I started in 2005 only with free traffic and made few €k profit per month from that free traffic before I even knew what affiliate marketing is

The information in this industry is all over the place.
Just stick with the information we have, then it´s at least all in one place.

But seriously, read the threads here and you will see what most of us are running.

And there is a reason why we run what we run, because it´s working.

That doesn´t mean that other things are not working, there are still prople who make massive money from emails, banner ads and whatever.

But times change and there are always easier and harder ways to succeed.

Some people say that Microsoft is a great place to start
See above, there is a reason why not many people run Microsoft Ads.

It´s true that bids there can be way lower than on Google Ads and it´s true that the quality there can be very good.

But it´s also true that the volume there is way lower than on Google and that you probably have to focus on the highest tier geos to really make it worth it.

others say Push, but the traffic quality isn't that good (lots of bots)
Not true, on Push I have an average of 0.5%-2.5% bot traffic.

Yes, the quality on FB or other platforms is better but push traffic in general is far from low quality.

the campaigns fizzle out quick
Also not necessarily true, I have push campaigns that run on CPA Goal for about a year already without touching it at all.

and it's difficult to consistently make good money with $1 SOI offers.
Also not true, I have a very good and very stable offer that I run in 9 different geos and payouts go from €0.20-€4.00 and the best geos that each generate hundreds of SOI conversions per day have payouts like €0.40, €1.00, €0.95 and €0.90

Then they mention that the glory days of Facebook are over and has become too difficult for newer affiliates.
Yup, that´s true.

I was running FB in 2009 and 2010, there it was really easy but then they started to become harder and harder to run so I moved on.

[...]I make about $1500 a week[...]
What would you suggest for someone with a $50 a day budget?
If you really want to make it get out of the comfort zone and start to increase your budget.

You make $1500 per week?

That´s already a good income in every country worldwide.

Cut down unnecessary costs and spend more for your business,.

No pain, no gain


03-01-2022 02:46 PM #6 jaybot (Veteran Member)

I think he meant his day job makes $1500 a week, which he wants to replace with AM.

Definitely doable. But I know many who have been doing AM full time for 2+ years who still don't clear that, but will someday.

Can do that on pops alone, tbh. Just need to find what you're good at, somewhat enjoy, and stick with it. Figure it out, so to speak.

Bing is a great traffic source for AM. MS doesn't care about 'bridge' pages (landers) and you don't need to create a fake blog or anything to get it working. I ran some clickbank sciatica offers on there profitably for several months before I knew wtf I was doing. Still a good source if you want to figure it out, but good info on Bing is scarce. Also, clickbank has typically higher payouts and it takes a looooong time for conversions (depending on your flow) and data to come in.

Push and pops have much faster feedback, and lower payouts, which makes a much easier way of learning what to do and what not to do, and also makes you learn about scale. Scaling a $100 payout offer on any traffic is hard af, especially PPC traffic with only $50 a day budget.

Learning how to scale a shitty $1 SOI offer on Pops/Push is also hard, but much easier, and teaches you what you need to do to increase profits while decreasing ROI and using much larger budgets, bids, WL and BL and multiple sources to get there.

Tons of info on STM on how to do this. I'm biased af, but I will always suggest Pops to get your feet wet, then Push and Pops. Then jump off into whatever you're interested in (Native/FB/TT/PPC).


03-01-2022 03:12 PM #7 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

I think he meant his day job makes $1500 a week, which he wants to replace with AM.
I know


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