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02-15-2022 06:56 AM
#1
sd31677 (Member)
How to Actually Feel Productive & Bring In Cash While Trying New Stuff
Been running native ads for a year plus, and had some great $10k profit months, but that success has been way too fleeting, and I am now making poverty wages, as I describe here: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post428908
I know I need to test and try new campaigns, and I am in the process of doing that as we speak. Problem is, I will probably lose money in the process, so I need positive income coming in
What are my options here for freelance gigs (please, no comments about getting a job or driving Uber. Been there, done that)
02-15-2022 08:48 AM
#2
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
What are my options here for freelance gigs
What are your skills?
02-15-2022 02:52 PM
#3
ScottyG (Senior Member)

Originally Posted by
sd31677
Been running native ads for a year plus, and had some great $10k profit months, but that success has been way too fleeting, and I am now making poverty wages, as I describe here:
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post428908
I know I need to test and try new campaigns, and I am in the process of doing that as we speak. Problem is, I will probably lose money in the process, so I need positive income coming in
What are my options here for freelance gigs (please, no comments about getting a job or driving Uber. Been there, done that)
Go to Facebook groups for Native and offer consulting or media buying.
Or partner with an agency that will fund you, if you can prove you've done $10k months, message me and I'll connect you.
02-15-2022 07:24 PM
#4
jaybot (Veteran Member)
I'm confused. I thought @sd31677 was a big ecom guy. Profile used to link to a 7 figure ecom brand and have a branding course on FB and everything.
Surely you have money from that? 
All ribbing aside, I would echo Scotty as it would definitely save you money on the adspend (you have to share any profits tho).
Also. You can do copywriting and basically any skills related to marketing on upwork and bring in a decent income.
Being an Uber driver sucks. Money isn't too bad, but I got tired of drunk people messing up my car and then dudes getting into fistfights as soon as they get out.
Babysitting is easier than Uber driver.
02-15-2022 10:18 PM
#5
sd31677 (Member)

Originally Posted by
jaybot
I'm confused. I thought @
sd31677 was a big ecom guy. Profile used to link to a 7 figure ecom brand and have a branding course on FB and everything.
Surely you have money from that?

No, I made big money with PPV from 2013-2015, but most of that was squandered when I tried to start my own PC optimizer product
02-16-2022 12:34 AM
#6
schlossy (Member)

Originally Posted by
sd31677
Been running native ads for a year plus, and had some great $10k profit months, but that success has been way too fleeting, and I am now making poverty wages, as I describe here:
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post428908
I know I need to test and try new campaigns, and I am in the process of doing that as we speak. Problem is, I will probably lose money in the process, so I need positive income coming in
What are my options here for freelance gigs (please, no comments about getting a job or driving Uber. Been there, done that)
this may sound weird but you may want to check out crypto gaming.
personally i am only involved with axie infinity , and no i dont play it myself. we hire ppl to play.
but imagine if u played it yourself.
and no, i would not recommend axie infinity as the payout may not be enough for you.
but you might wanna checkout other games.
play2earn.
i wont expect huge income unless you are very lucky to end up early in a game that went mainstream later. then ya, you might make big money
02-17-2022 12:41 AM
#7
vortex (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
sd31677
Been running native ads for a year plus, and had some great $10k profit months, but that success has been way too fleeting, and I am now making poverty wages, as I describe here:
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post428908
I know I need to test and try new campaigns, and I am in the process of doing that as we speak. Problem is, I will probably lose money in the process, so I need positive income coming in
What are my options here for freelance gigs (please, no comments about getting a job or driving Uber. Been there, done that)
Since covid, a lot of traditional "jobs" can now be done remotely, so I wouldn't exclude the possibility just yet!
If you do a google search on "work from home" or "online jobs" you'll see results from google jobs:

@
ScottyG's suggestions though I think would be more suited to your level of experience. You can also try reaching out to some of the big ecom agencies directly - to identify them, go on linkedin, or join a few Ecom groups on FB and scroll through past posts. You may even see job posts in these groups.
I'm just assuming you want to be looking for ecom media buying related work. But if I'm wrong and you're not sure what freelance work you're wanting to do, try browsing through freelance sites to see what job categories are available, and maybe browse through some of the freelancer that are charging the highest fees to see what they specialize in, and see if you possess the same skills and can offer the same services.
I admire your courage and tenacity - there's absolutely no shame in starting fresh after a "failed" project. Many successful entrepreneurs have been where you are. With your attitude and persistence you'll make it - looking forward to seeing your success story in the near future!
Amy
02-20-2022 05:22 PM
#8
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
I tried to start my own PC optimizer product
Something like Reimage or OneSafe?
Then I can imagine that it could be very expensive and at the same time plastered with lots of obstacles.
02-21-2022 04:43 PM
#9
sd31677 (Member)

Originally Posted by
twinaxe
Something like Reimage or OneSafe?
Then I can imagine that it could be very expensive and at the same time plastered with lots of obstacles.
Yeah, it was a white label
Ahhh, Reimage. Boy was that offer good to me for a while!
02-22-2022 07:07 AM
#10
vortexalpha (Member)
The best idea to become more secure and safe when it comes to earning money is to find some remote job or to start working on some project, as this will allow you to get stable income each month and you'll be free to experiment further other opportunities while you are making some money at least. Go to some freelance hiring platform and search for jobs that fit your skillset.
02-25-2022 06:59 AM
#11
Rhino (Senior Member)
That's why i have keep aside $60k in my bank account(that i never touch), so if any adversity comes, i can survive for atleast 3-4 years without problem.
Being an affiliate marketer, i know there will be highs and lows in my life. I also try to invest 70-80% of my income so, that i can let my investments take care of me(when i am not working).
Plus, i have quit my job and i have 0 work experience, i'll probably never get a job again in my life, so, reading your thread gave me motivation to save more money for future.

Originally Posted by
sd31677
Been running native ads for a year plus, and had some great $10k profit months, but that success has been way too fleeting, and I am now making poverty wages, as I describe here:
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post428908
I know I need to test and try new campaigns, and I am in the process of doing that as we speak. Problem is, I will probably lose money in the process, so I need positive income coming in
What are my options here for freelance gigs (please, no comments about getting a job or driving Uber. Been there, done that)
02-28-2022 03:51 AM
#12
sd31677 (Member)
Happy to report things have turned. Had one of my best weeks in native, averaged about $560 profit per day
What has changed? Started a new campaign that is bringing in about $100 per day in profit, which obviously helps but of course is just one piece of the pie
I would like to say I came up with some great new ad creative, or landing page angle, or found some magic new placements, but none of that is the case. It just boils down to my conversion rate doubling what it has been the past 2.5 months
Reminds me of the last job I had (two years ago). I would cold call chiropractors to try and get them to sit through a software demo (yes, it was as miserable as it sounds) and I was really struggling. And I remember after booking a demo, my manager saying "so what went different on that call than the other ones you have had recently?" And I wanted to say back "the doctor just said yes this time." That's how this recent surge has been
02-28-2022 12:56 PM
#13
xylon_ (Member)
Hi, I predict you will have good profits in March.
March is always my best month with Native in my experience.
03-01-2022 03:31 PM
#14
cmdeal (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
sd31677
Happy to report things have turned. Had one of my best weeks in native, averaged about $560 profit per day
What has changed? Started a new campaign that is bringing in about $100 per day in profit, which obviously helps but of course is just one piece of the pie
I would like to say I came up with some great new ad creative, or landing page angle, or found some magic new placements, but none of that is the case. It just boils down to my conversion rate doubling what it has been the past 2.5 months
Reminds me of the last job I had (two years ago). I would cold call chiropractors to try and get them to sit through a software demo (yes, it was as miserable as it sounds) and I was really struggling. And I remember after booking a demo, my manager saying "so what went different on that call than the other ones you have had recently?" And I wanted to say back "the doctor just said yes this time." That's how this recent surge has been
Haha, this pretty much encapsulates Affiliate Marketing. Things can turn around in a heartbeat.
That said, I think it is always good to have a Plan A, a Plan B (backup), and a Plan Z (in case everything goes to crap).
Rhino's philosophy of setting money aside for a rainy day sounds really smart to me. Too many people just spend whatever they get, and then when times turn dry, they have nothing to fall back on.
In addition, if you have been able to make decent money on native, that means that you do have some valuable skills on native, so that is a skillset and expertise that you can offer and sell to people or companies who need it.
03-02-2022 02:53 AM
#15
vortex (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
sd31677
Happy to report things have turned. Had one of my best weeks in native, averaged about $560 profit per day
What has changed? Started a new campaign that is bringing in about $100 per day in profit, which obviously helps but of course is just one piece of the pie
I would like to say I came up with some great new ad creative, or landing page angle, or found some magic new placements, but none of that is the case. It just boils down to my conversion rate doubling what it has been the past 2.5 months
Reminds me of the last job I had (two years ago). I would cold call chiropractors to try and get them to sit through a software demo (yes, it was as miserable as it sounds) and I was really struggling. And I remember after booking a demo, my manager saying "so what went different on that call than the other ones you have had recently?" And I wanted to say back "the doctor just said yes this time." That's how this recent surge has been
Wow it's so nice to see how things have turned around for you!
I see this phenomenon happen a lot, and not just in affiliate marketing:
When you have a Plan B in place, instead of forcing yourself to make Plan A work, it will often improve your chances of making Plan A work.
I know this may be counter-intuitive. And yes I know how all the goal-setting books advise the opposite.
But the law of attraction governs everything. When you force yourself to make ONE thing work, AND you're not certain exactly HOW to make it work, you're generating a bunch of resistant energy (stress, pressure, whatever you want to call it).
And that resistance will keep you away from achieving your Plan A. In fact, the more you force yourself, the greater the resistance, and the further you push away success.
But when you find a Plan B - it's like having a safety net. Suddenly your resistance against Plan A disappears - and your original desire for Plan A will take over to manifest what you were wanting.
This is why a lot of couples that can't get pregnant after years of trying, and finally decide to adopt, will suddenly get pregnant afterwards.
Of course, having a Plan B doesn't mean you want to give up on Plan A.
But it can sure take away the resistance that's standing in the way of your success.
Congratulations and all the best! Please keep us posted on how you do!
Amy
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