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02-08-2022 12:33 PM #1 provdr1423 (Member)
Help with usage a LP from adplexity

Hi, I'm trying to use this page I saw on adplexity
When I download it as a "complete webpage"




So I changed the "html" file to "index.php"
And put everything on my site under the same folder.
The result I get is a broken page


Please help me figure out how to rip the page correctly
Thanks!


02-08-2022 01:32 PM #2 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Why did you change the filetype to PHP?

You download HTML landing pages from Adplexity and don´t need to change the filetype, just use HTML.

PHP also only works when you have PHP installed on your server/webspace.

When you try to open a PHP in your browser from your computer it won´t work.


02-08-2022 02:01 PM #3 provdr1423 (Member)

Hey Twinaxe thanks for your quick response
OK now i try to download it as a "complete site"
I change the html file to "index.html" and still the page is broken.
It looks like i doesn't pull the images
what im missing ?


02-08-2022 02:14 PM #4 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

OK now i try to download it as a "complete site"
Do you try to download the landing pages from your browser "Save as" and then you select "complete site" there?

If that´s what you try -> Don´t do it

You can download the landing pages from Adplexity directly, that´s what it´s made for


02-08-2022 02:59 PM #5 provdr1423 (Member)

Yes that what i did.
cool feature thanks!!
but still when I'm uploads all the file to my site only the text and the frame pulled without the images
http://www.facellex.com/tescasino1/


02-08-2022 04:15 PM #6 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by provdr1423 View Post
Yes that what i did.
cool feature thanks!!
but still when I'm uploads all the file to my site only the text and the frame pulled without the images
http://www.facellex.com/tescasino1/
Landing pages need to be edited or "fixed up" in order to get them to work after you rip/download them.

Do you code at all? If not, I would suggest to either hire a coder, or learn some rudimentary coding yourself. It's not difficult.

The image links are no longer correct because you've uploaded to a different domain. The code can't find the images anymore. You'll need to point the links at the new image location (typically this would be the folder with all the assets in it, that got downloaded when you were downloading the lander).

These threads may help:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...-Landing-Pages (please scroll to the "ACTION" section on the bottom)

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...ng-Lander-Code (some of the most-often things to "fix" for a ripped lander)



Amy


02-08-2022 05:47 PM #7 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by provdr1423 View Post
Yes that what i did.
cool feature thanks!!
but still when I'm uploads all the file to my site only the text and the frame pulled without the images
http://www.facellex.com/tescasino1/
The page looks rlmore like a landing page directly from the advertiser and not that much like a landing page from an affiliate.

Advertiser LPs are often loaded with scripts and stuff so that they are broken in some way more often than "lightweight" affiliate LPs.

You could check in the code if you can get the links to the actual images, then download them and correct the links.


02-09-2022 08:40 AM #8 provdr1423 (Member)

Thanks guys your comments was very helpful for me!
most of the worked been done im sure i have some more things to clean.
this is the results till now: https://www.facellex.com/tescasino1/
I added the Urls to mine + i added the picture to be pull from my hosting
i just need to clean some cookie links or stealers if i find some can you advise me how to recognize them?


02-09-2022 09:36 PM #9 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by provdr1423 View Post
Thanks guys your comments was very helpful for me!
most of the worked been done im sure i have some more things to clean.
this is the results till now: https://www.facellex.com/tescasino1/
I added the Urls to mine + i added the picture to be pull from my hosting
i just need to clean some cookie links or stealers if i find some can you advise me how to recognize them?
Happy to help! And that page is looking good! Good job figuring it out!

Regarding cookie/stealers: I'm not good at coding - maybe @jeremie or @twinaxe can give better advice. What I know I've shared in this post (see section 8. Check for Sneaky Redirects):

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...ng-Lander-Code



Amy


02-10-2022 09:22 AM #10 provdr1423 (Member)

Ok i will go over it thanks!
Now about the parameters if I'm using Voluum tracking and i pass in the URL himself the parameters that i want to pull like in this way:
https://www.facellex.com/tescasino1/?affid=36050&src={{campaign.id}}_{{adset.id}}_{{ad .id}}
Do i need to add some script in the code of the LP?
Or it pull this info from the traffic source anyway?


02-10-2022 07:25 PM #11 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

You don't need to add campaign ID, asset ID and such stuff.

These things are just for your own tracking purposes so that you can see in your tracker which elements converted.

If needed you add stuff like device, isp and so on to call them on the landing page.


02-11-2022 07:41 AM #12 AdPlexity (Member)

@provdr1423, there is also a webinar on AdPlexity how to copy landing pages - https://adplexity.clickmeeting.com/a...569.1626082177, maybe you are interested in this as well and you can get some additional information how to do this.


02-13-2022 07:42 AM #13 provdr1423 (Member)

ok i understand!
Last question please. I know from my experience that a lot of traffic sources specially FB and Google doesn't allow to advertise trackers URL from the trackers himself. what's solution are you using?


02-13-2022 12:32 PM #14 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by provdr1423 View Post
I know from my experience that a lot of traffic sources specially FB and Google doesn't allow to advertise trackers URL from the trackers himself. what's solution are you using?
Redirectless tracking.

Send traffic direct to the landing page and track it through a pixel.


02-13-2022 12:45 PM #15 provdr1423 (Member)

Yes but if i want to test few offers on the same LPs i cant do the split through Voluum?
And this is the main purpose of Voluum not?


02-13-2022 01:38 PM #16 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by provdr1423 View Post
Yes but if i want to test few offers on the same LPs i cant do the split through Voluum?
And this is the main purpose of Voluum not?
You still can do it.

The redirect from landing page to the offer can happen through the tracker, it´s only the redirect from trafficsource to LP that should be avoided for specific sources.


02-14-2022 12:43 AM #17 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by twinaxe View Post
If needed you add stuff like device, isp and so on to call them on the landing page.
If this is what you need, this post will show you how:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...ing-parameters



Amy


02-14-2022 12:52 AM #18 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by provdr1423 View Post
Yes but if i want to test few offers on the same LPs i cant do the split through voluum?
And this is the main purpose of voluum not?
I'm not entirely sure Voluum can do this.


(Reference: https://doc.Voluum.com/en/direct_tracking.html)

I would suggest that you reach out to their support to verify.

Even the Funnelflux tracker, the most versatile tracker I know, can't split-test landers with redirectless tracking:


(Referecne: http://docs.funnelflux.com/en/articl...redirect-links)

Let me see if I could get a tracking master to shed some light here.



Amy


02-14-2022 07:18 AM #19 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

I'm not entirely sure Voluum can do this.
Splittesting LPs with redirect less tracking won't work (at least not the usual way ) but splittesting offers should work just normal.

I guess what they mean with it is that it won't work when you want to direct link = offer only campaign = no pre lander.

When you use a LP with pixel then the tracker still sets a cookie so the redirect from tracker to offer should work just normal.

But it's correct to best ask Voluum directly if it works that way or not


02-14-2022 12:54 PM #20 provdr1423 (Member)

Not sure I'm 100% understanding. Let's say that i have this page now: https://www.facellex.com/tescasino1/ (is broken i know)

With path out of Voluum : https://www.vaukith.com/click
the only way to make this funnel work is if the traffic will go through the campaign URL from Voluum,
So how I am supposed to use this tracker(without clocking) if the traffic source does not accept it?


02-14-2022 01:29 PM #21 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by provdr1423 View Post
So how I am supposed to use this tracker(without clocking) if the traffic source does not accept it?
I already posted it HERE

Instead of going through the tracker link you add a pixel or a script from your tracker to the landing page and then you send the user directly to the landing page.

For Voluum you find info how to do it HERE


02-15-2022 04:06 AM #22 zeno (Administrator)

There are two options for what kind of URLs you use in your ads -- redirect links and direct links. I'll explain with some FunnelFlux examples.t

Redirect Links

These are of the format:

Code:
https://TRACKING-DOMAIN/fts/funnelID-trafficsourceID/?additional-trafficsource-url-params-here
Here the domain (your custom one) points to our FunnelFlux system and the URL contains data on funnel ID, traffic source ID and URL tracking fields from the traffic source.

When the click comes in our system can decide what to do with the user, redirect to different locations, use conditions, etc.

It makes life easy but compliance-focused traffic sources may not like these links... because they want to approve a single destination. But you clearly have the ability to change the destination at any time -- so it completely conflicts with their compliance goals. Obviously, they won't allow these links if they are trying to avoid non-compliance, and its trivial to know something is a redirect link.

Direct Links

These are of the format:

Code:
https://LANDER-DOMAIN/some-page-path/?f=funnelID&ts=trafficsourceID&additional-trafficsource-url-params-here
With direct links, you are sending someone directly to your lander. Now, we pass URL data once again, but purely in the query string.

When the page loads, Javascript on the page is able to check the URL and from that, understand that the user is coming from X traffic source (and therefore what tracking fields to log), and the funnel ID.

From the traffic source side they see a normal page URL that loads the same thing every time and they are happy. They don't really know/care about the tracker in this sense, as its handling visitor tracking on the page with JS later.

From your side, because it links directly to a page, you cannot split-test between multiple destinations, conditionally route, add token data into the URL, etc.

The CTA/click URLs on the lander still work the same in either case as the tracker is logging the visitor in each case, the only difference being whether it happens before or during their lander view. Either way, the tracker knows X user is on Y page.

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Now, if you want to get the best of both worlds you technically can use direct links and rotate, but this requires the server that is delivering the landing page to do it. In a simple scenario, https://LANDER-DOMAIN/some-page-path/ could actually be loading https://LANDER-DOMAIN/some-page-path/index.php, where that PHP script serves (includes) different HTML page sources on load.

You could use some more complex JS setup to ensure that the right page gets logged each time, by making the tracker not use the page URL, but rather some code inside the JS itself.

But this is more complex to set up, I wouldn't recommend it initially as you can just KISS and duplicate ads if you want to split-test.

Furthermore, while this does give you split-testing, its not compliant at all. You can't serve multiple pages on the same URL and then when the traffic source catches you be like "but its the same page URL, you just said you don't want redirect links?!". Not a chance. They want to approve a single destination page and piece of content. How that content gets in front of the user is irrelevant. Likewise you could run an ad then just change the lander content later. This is a bait & switch and is likewise not compliant, grounds for ad disapproval, account bans etc.


02-15-2022 05:12 PM #23 iwanttofly (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by zeno View Post
Now, if you want to get the best of both worlds you technically can use direct links and rotate, but this requires the server that is delivering the landing page to do it. In a simple scenario, https://LANDER-DOMAIN/some-page-path/ could actually be loading https://LANDER-DOMAIN/some-page-path/index.php, where that PHP script serves (includes) different HTML page sources on load.

You could use some more complex JS setup to ensure that the right page gets logged each time, by making the tracker not use the page URL, but rather some code inside the JS itself.

But this is more complex to set up, I wouldn't recommend it initially as you can just KISS and duplicate ads if you want to split-test.

Furthermore, while this does give you split-testing, its not compliant at all. You can't serve multiple pages on the same URL and then when the traffic source catches you be like "but its the same page URL, you just said you don't want redirect links?!". Not a chance. They want to approve a single destination page and piece of content. How that content gets in front of the user is irrelevant. Likewise you could run an ad then just change the lander content later. This is a bait & switch and is likewise not compliant, grounds for ad disapproval, account bans etc.
All very well said. Now, I have been curious how Clickfunnels gets away with this. Rarely do you get the final URL for your funnel, but some pretty URL that is then redirected to the right page. And they support split-tests server side, just like you illustrated.

I'm surprised more of their users aren't banned for it.


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