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01-09-2022 05:43 PM #1 leadmarketing ()
Help me with your advice

Hello guys i hope you are all doing good

all my social ads platforms got banned, now i need to open new accounts, what do you think should i use RDP or Virtual Machine? is those market places that sells old accounts (pva accounts) worth it?

01-09-2022 11:09 PM #2 vortex (Senior Moderator)

By this question, I'm assuming you're not doing blackhat by the "churning and burning" model? (Otherwise you'd just get more accounts where those came from, or farm them the same way.)

If you only need up to a couple accounts, you may want to consider renting agency accounts. You pay a percentage of ad spend to the owner, but campaigns tend to get approved more easily, and you won't need to deal with bans regularly (unless you're running something unacceptable by their terms.)

Lastly: Which platforms?



Amy

01-10-2022 12:22 PM #3 leadmarketing ()

Quote Originally Posted by vortex View Post
By this question, I'm assuming you're not doing blackhat by the "churning and burning" model? (Otherwise you'd just get more accounts where those came from, or farm them the same way.)

If you only need up to a couple accounts, you may want to consider renting agency accounts. You pay a percentage of ad spend to the owner, but campaigns tend to get approved more easily, and you won't need to deal with bans regularly (unless you're running something unacceptable by their terms.)

Lastly: Which platforms?



Amy
I'm promoting sweeps usig fb insta and tiktok, the agency thing sounds more stable but i need to stop promoting sweeps i guess, is there any "white hat" offers or verticals i can promote on agency accounts? can you tell me more about "churning and burning" model?

thank you for your time vortex

01-12-2022 06:30 AM #4 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by leadmarketing View Post
I'm promoting sweeps usig fb insta and tiktok, the agency thing sounds more stable but i need to stop promoting sweeps i guess, is there any "white hat" offers or verticals i can promote on agency accounts? can you tell me more about "churning and burning" model?

thank you for your time vortex
"Churn and burn" is when an affiliate/advertiser runs campaigns in a way that they get accounts banned on a regular basis. These are referred to as "blackhatters" and they either buy or rent accounts continuously, or create them themselves and create signs of activity from these accounts that make them look like they're real accounts by real users (a process known as "farming").

I haven't done blackhat on FB in years, but based on what I've heard from other affiliates still in the game, it has gotten harder and harder to do, especially if you're a lone affiliate without some massive advantage (e.g. an "inside" contact that can pull some strings for you; custom scripts/automation; lots of cheap human labor; access to offers with high profit margins).

Even @blackemil who used to make the big bucks on FB running sweeps, has shifted his focus. So it may be time to try other verticals.

As for whitehat offers, please see suggestions here: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...hat-to-Promote

Stay away from: Nutraceuticals, crypto, forex, any other type of HYIP opportunities, dating, adult.

Doing some spying on an FB spy tool like Visto.li can help to provide ideas as well!

As for agency accounts - this thread contains more info: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...-for-fb-agency

(Note: STM does not endorse any agency account rental service - please use at your own risk.)

Hope that helps! Feel free to ask further questions.



Amy

01-13-2022 11:18 AM #5 leadmarketing ()

Quote Originally Posted by vortex View Post
"Churn and burn" is when an affiliate/advertiser runs campaigns in a way that they get accounts banned on a regular basis. These are referred to as "blackhatters" and they either buy or rent accounts continuously, or create them themselves and create signs of activity from these accounts that make them look like they're real accounts by real users (a process known as "farming").

I haven't done blackhat on FB in years, but based on what I've heard from other affiliates still in the game, it has gotten harder and harder to do, especially if you're a lone affiliate without some massive advantage (e.g. an "inside" contact that can pull some strings for you; custom scripts/automation; lots of cheap human labor; access to offers with high profit margins).

Even @blackemil who used to make the big bucks on FB running sweeps, has shifted his focus. So it may be time to try other verticals.

As for whitehat offers, please see suggestions here: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...hat-to-Promote

Stay away from: Nutraceuticals, crypto, forex, any other type of HYIP opportunities, dating, adult.

Doing some spying on an FB spy tool like Visto.li can help to provide ideas as well!

As for agency accounts - this thread contains more info: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...-for-fb-agency

(Note: STM does not endorse any agency account rental service - please use at your own risk.)

Hope that helps! Feel free to ask further questions.



Amy
Thank you very much vortex

01-13-2022 11:37 AM #6 leadmarketing ()

Quote Originally Posted by vortex View Post
"Churn and burn" is when an affiliate/advertiser runs campaigns in a way that they get accounts banned on a regular basis. These are referred to as "blackhatters" and they either buy or rent accounts continuously, or create them themselves and create signs of activity from these accounts that make them look like they're real accounts by real users (a process known as "farming").

I haven't done blackhat on FB in years, but based on what I've heard from other affiliates still in the game, it has gotten harder and harder to do, especially if you're a lone affiliate without some massive advantage (e.g. an "inside" contact that can pull some strings for you; custom scripts/automation; lots of cheap human labor; access to offers with high profit margins).

Even @blackemil who used to make the big bucks on FB running sweeps, has shifted his focus. So it may be time to try other verticals.

As for whitehat offers, please see suggestions here: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...hat-to-Promote

Stay away from: Nutraceuticals, crypto, forex, any other type of HYIP opportunities, dating, adult.

Doing some spying on an FB spy tool like Visto.li can help to provide ideas as well!

As for agency accounts - this thread contains more info: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...-for-fb-agency

(Note: STM does not endorse any agency account rental service - please use at your own risk.)

Hope that helps! Feel free to ask further questions.



Amy
i read the threads and i have decided to move to ecom cpa offers by tiktok or snapchat ads what threads do suggest me to learn all that?

01-14-2022 11:36 PM #7 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by leadmarketing View Post
i read the threads and i have decided to move to ecom cpa offers by tiktok or snapchat ads what threads do suggest me to learn all that?
Awesome!

The following threads/subforums may help you...


1)Go through the entire Tiktok section - there aren't that many threads to go through. Pay special attention on follow-alongs.

https://stmforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?317-Tiktok

2)Check the masterminds section if you're interested in joining a mastermind for tiktok/snapchat:

https://stmforum.com/forum/forumdisp...15-Masterminds

3)Do a forum search for threads with "snapchat" in the title, and go through some of the threads to see if you find some useful info:

https://stmforum.com/forum/search.php?searchid=3839135

Here are some of the snapchat-related threads I feel are worth checking out:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...t-ads-spy-tool (disclaimer: I personally haven't used it, but it's the only spy tool for snapchat I've come across)

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...t-Follow-Along (it's quite old - from 1.5 years ago - and incomplete - but contains info on how to set up campaigns initially, e.g. pixel setup)

Snapchat just isn't discussed a lot around here unfortunately. But it can also mean that competition isn't heavy. I guess you'll find out if/when you actually run there.

Have fun!



Amy

01-20-2022 10:52 AM #8 shark-collective (Member)

We are doing BH in the gambling world and seeing some really good results with a very high numbers
Yes it's not easy but it is possible.

01-20-2022 12:28 PM #9 leadmarketing ()

Quote Originally Posted by shark-collective View Post
We are doing BH in the gambling world and seeing some really good results with a very high numbers
Yes it's not easy but it is possible.
good for u my friend what do you do after they ban your account

01-20-2022 12:30 PM #10 leadmarketing ()

Quote Originally Posted by vortex View Post
Awesome!

The following threads/subforums may help you...


1)Go through the entire Tiktok section - there aren't that many threads to go through. Pay special attention on follow-alongs.

/forum/forumdisplay.php?317-Tiktok

2)Check the masterminds section if you're interested in joining a mastermind for tiktok/snapchat:

/forum/forumdisplay.php?115-Masterminds

3)Do a forum search for threads with "snapchat" in the title, and go through some of the threads to see if you find some useful info:

/forum/search.php?searchid=3839135

Here are some of the snapchat-related threads I feel are worth checking out:

http:///forum/showthread.php?49455-s...t-ads-spy-tool (disclaimer: I personally haven't used it, but it's the only spy tool for snapchat I've come across)

http:///forum/showthread.php?48789-%...t-Follow-Along (it's quite old - from 1.5 years ago - and incomplete - but contains info on how to set up campaigns initially, e.g. pixel setup)

Snapchat just isn't discussed a lot around here unfortunately. But it can also mean that competition isn't heavy. I guess you'll find out if/when you actually run there.

Have fun!



Amy
Thanks Legend

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