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How are the BIG GUYs promoting Crypto & Casino offers? (20)


01-01-2022 08:16 PM #1 alexgb (Member)
How are the BIG GUYs promoting Crypto & Casino offers?

As you know, crypto ($750 avg payout) and casino ($150 avg payout) verticals are very lucrative ones, however, most traffic sources don't allow these offers.

So I have three questions in regards to these verticals:

1) How are the Big Guys promoting Crypto & Casino offers with paid traffic?

2) What are the best Crypto & Casino affiliate networks?

3) Is it only possible to promote Crypto & Casino offers (at scale) by using cloaking?

Thanks!


01-02-2022 01:04 PM #2 jeremie (Moderator)

No offense, but I don't think the big guys are going to publicly give you a blueprint to replicate what they are doing.

STM has a search engine for affiliate networks here: https://stmforum.com/affiliate-directory/
Lots of casinos also have direct affiliate programs.

For your 3rd question, look at the ad policy of the network where you want to run it. Some networks prohibit it (in that case cloaking is the only option), some are ok, an some restrict it. For example Google has been relaxing rules for crypto and casino earlier this year. It used to be prohibited and now you can run it if you comply with their rules.


01-02-2022 02:35 PM #3 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

For example Google has been relaxing rules for crypto and casino earlier this year
So basically Iike... Yesterday?

Happy New Year amigo.
@alexgb About Casino and Crypto, if you want to run it on volume go for the sources with volume (FB and Google).


01-02-2022 02:40 PM #4 alexgb (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jeremie View Post
For example Google has been relaxing rules for crypto and casino earlier this year. It used to be prohibited and now you can run it if you comply with their rules.
You need to be "certified" to run crypto and casino on Google, and us, as affiliates, I don't think we can get certified.


01-02-2022 02:41 PM #5 alexgb (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by twinaxe View Post
@alexgb About Casino and Crypto, if you want to run it on volume go for the sources with volume (FB and Google).
Yeah, that would need cloaking 100%. Is that the only way to run these 2 verticals with volume?
I am not really into the accounts game.


01-02-2022 05:04 PM #6 jeremie (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by twinaxe View Post
So basically Iike... Yesterday?
https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/rolling-year


01-02-2022 09:26 PM #7 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Yeah, that would need cloaking 100%.
Especially the Crypto offers are shady as f*#k and so are the most popular promotional methods.

Combined with FB and Googles rather hard policy regarding affiliate offers you just have to find ways to run it there.

Is that the only way to run these 2 verticals with volume?
Not the only way but these platforms just have huge volume.


01-03-2022 10:09 PM #8 jaybot (Veteran Member)

I dunno...

I know several medium-sized affiliates who run mostly Casino on Push and still do very respectable numbers.

Many Native networks still allow Casino offers too.

Pops are allowed, obviously, but most Casino offer owners won't accept the quality.

Crypto is allowed on Push as well, but good luck getting FTDs. CPL can work though, if you find it.


01-03-2022 10:13 PM #9 vortex (Senior Moderator)

I personally know an affiliate who was doing 6-figures/day in crypto on adwords using blackhat methods (using a ton of accounts), but that was 3 years ago.

Don't really know whether that's feasible anymore.


2) What are the best Crypto & Casino affiliate networks?
In addition to the STM directory (thanks @jeremie!)

Another way would be to go to an offers aggregator like offervault.com and filter by the "Crypto" category:



3rd way: Google "crypto affiliate network":

https://www.google.com/search?q=cryp...client=gws-wiz

4th way: Do a search on this forum for "crypto networks":

https://stmforum.com/forum/explore.p...x=0&submit.y=0

5th way: Go to a spy tool and click to the offer page - do some research to find out which network has the offer. (Google the offer name, or the company name on the offer page; search for the offer in offer aggregators; ask in affiliate groups which network carries that offer, etc.)

6th way: Keep an eye out for the new "What's Working in Affiliate Marketing" report which is due to come out in February - there will for sure be networks that specialize in crypto (do a search within the report). For older info you can download last year's report here: https://stmforum.com/whats-working-2021/

3) Is it only possible to promote Crypto & Casino offers (at scale) by using cloaking?
Some native networks allow crypto - below is a screenshot from Adplexity Native of the number of campaigns on each network when I search for "crypto":



Please check each native network's TOS to see which ones allow crypto.

Here's a similar screenshot for pop traffic from Adplexity Mobile:



And for push:



Not sure if these combined would give you the scale you're looking for - but they can be a start.

Hopefully some crypto experts would come in to shed more light!



Amy


02-22-2022 07:48 AM #10 vortexalpha (Member)

Yes, you are totally right here, these verticals are definitely among the most lucrative ones, but there are some problems and issues when it comes to their promotion, as you can't use Facebook or Google ads for it, for example. Many affiliates use PBNs, forums or public directories to advertise their offers, as really, this is the only way to do it, and here you have the liberty to put anything you want.

As for best affiliate networks, depends on your needs, requirements regarding payouts and offers and on which GEOs you are targeting, so it's useful to do your own research here and find the most suitable ones.

And, yes, cloaking is one way for doing promotion for these verticals, but it can be risky if you are not sure what you're doing, so use this tactic carefully.


02-22-2022 10:29 AM #11 ScottyG (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by alexgb View Post
As you know, crypto ($750 avg payout) and casino ($150 avg payout) verticals are very lucrative ones, however, most traffic sources don't allow these offers.

So I have three questions in regards to these verticals:

1) How are the Big Guys promoting Crypto & Casino offers with paid traffic?

2) What are the best Crypto & Casino affiliate networks?

3) Is it only possible to promote Crypto & Casino offers (at scale) by using cloaking?

Thanks!
Lucky timing, I just so happened to get screwed over by someone I met here on STM for a BH JV project. They decided to steal my creative and run it solo, so now, you and everyone else can have it.


GDrive Link to all the videos:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...S_?usp=sharing

You want to run "StayCasino", I have been running them through ClickDealer with a nice dude named Joel.

They have a landing page they built custom for me which links directly to the unique game (SpaceXY) I use in my ads.
Ask for that one.

It does around 100-300% ROI as of late, please run it into the ground.

Godspeed mate.


02-22-2022 01:16 PM #12 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by ScottyG View Post
Lucky timing, I just so happened to get screwed over by someone I met here on STM for a BH JV project. They decided to steal my creative and run it solo, so now, you and everyone else can have it.


GDrive Link to all the videos:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...S_?usp=sharing

You want to run "StayCasino", I have been running them through ClickDealer with a nice dude named Joel.

They have a landing page they built custom for me which links directly to the unique game (SpaceXY) I use in my ads.
Ask for that one.

It does around 100-300% ROI as of late, please run it into the ground.

Godspeed mate.
Wow this is nuts! Thanks for the share!

You were running these safely on Tiktok with agency accounts?



Amy


02-22-2022 01:39 PM #13 ScottyG (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by vortex View Post
Wow this is nuts! Thanks for the share!

You were running these safely on Tiktok with agency accounts?



Amy
This is for blackhat / stand alone accounts. Not safe to run on agency, you will catch a ban.

Like you mentioned earlier, no one is going to reveal methods for how to run BH at a high volume. Sorry guys.

Btw STM: At somepoint, someone will offer to sell you a document for $5k on how to make $50k a day running BH secret methods or glitches, pause and think long and hard before you take that bait.


02-22-2022 01:53 PM #14 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by ScottyG View Post
This is for blackhat / stand alone accounts. Not safe to run on agency, you will catch a ban.

Like you mentioned earlier, no one is going to reveal methods for how to run BH at a high volume. Sorry guys.

Btw STM: At somepoint, someone will offer to sell you a document for $5k on how to make $50k a day running BH secret methods or glitches, pause and think long and hard before you take that bait.
Thanks for clarifying!

Ha! Blackhat promotion of blackhat methods.

First and foremost simple spam-check:

Ask yourself, "would I offer to teach others for the same price if I was making that kind of profit?"

Why would I want to bring in people to saturate the method, instead of quietly milking it for as long as possible...



Amy


02-24-2022 01:01 AM #15 cpamario2019 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by ScottyG View Post
Lucky timing, I just so happened to get screwed over by someone I met here on STM for a BH JV project. They decided to steal my creative and run it solo, so now, you and everyone else can have it.


GDrive Link to all the videos:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...S_?usp=sharing

You want to run "StayCasino", I have been running them through ClickDealer with a nice dude named Joel.

They have a landing page they built custom for me which links directly to the unique game (SpaceXY) I use in my ads.
Ask for that one.

It does around 100-300% ROI as of late, please run it into the ground.

Godspeed mate.


What's a good safe page for this


02-24-2022 11:38 AM #16 ScottyG (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by cpamario2019 View Post
What's a good safe page for this
https://article.seed-seniors.com/l6-02-15


02-24-2022 03:50 PM #17 jason a (Senior Member)

Dammm people are cloaking Tik Tok

its been like 5+ years since I ran BH .....


03-03-2022 01:54 PM #18 rizwan2022 (Member)

many of people still running casino crypto offers via FB and google via cloaking.


03-05-2022 12:39 PM #19 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by jason a View Post
Dammm people are cloaking Tik Tok

its been like 5+ years since I ran BH .....
You know what's crazy? During the Dubai conference, a very credible source told me that a rep from Tiktok was advising affiliates to cloak when running on their platform.

Looks like Tiktok is what FB was a few years ago when cloaking was one of the "secret sauces" to success.



Amy


03-06-2022 12:47 PM #20 cmdeal (Veteran Member)

Well, the really big guys run huge sites that stubs massive volumes to casinos. Indeed, there have been multiple cases where an online casino or gaming operator even acquired these Affiliate websites as they were driving so much volume.


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