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12-01-2021 08:58 AM
#1
cpablitz (Member)
Blitzing $0 to $1,000 per Day in 90 Days in Native
Hello STM
I'm starting a follow along to document my journey of going from $0 to $1,000 profit per day within 90 days, since today is 1st December I will be aiming for 1st of March to hit my goal.
I started here just a few days ago and already learned so much about performance marketing.
I have chosen native for it's potential, I'm excited to journey into this space and am looking forward to accomplishing my goals.
My Plan:
My current plan is simple, I'm going to break down the 90 days into 13 weeks and set a number of goals per week.
Week 1:
- Purchase tracking and optimization software
- Sign up for traffic on Taboola, Outbrain, RevContent and MGID
- Sign up for offers on ClickBank, PerformCb, Verve
- Start my first native campaign advertising the top offer I see up-and-coming such that it is not saturated
- Get my first conversion
Milestones:
- Launch First Campaign
- First conversion
- First $100 revenue day
- First $100 profit day
- First $500 revenue day
- First $500 profit day
- First $1000 revenue day
- *** First $1000 profit day ***
- First $7,000 revenue week
- First $7,000 profit week
- STRECH GOAL: First $2,000 revenue day
- STRECH GOAL: First $2,000 profit day
- STRECH GOAL: First $5,000 revenue day
- STRECH GOAL: First $5,000 profit day
- STRECH GOAL: First $10,000 revenue day
- STRECH GOAL: First $10,000 profit day
As a huge WW2 buff, the plan looks like this in diagram form
At this stage I'd appreciate any advice on native advertising networks, I'm leaning towards MGID or RevContent.
To your success,
cpablitz
12-01-2021 09:21 AM
#2
jack_l (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
cpablitz
Hello STM
I'm starting a follow along to document my journey of going from $0 to $1,000 profit per day within 90 days, since today is 1st December I will be aiming for 1st of March to hit my goal.
I started here just a few days ago and already learned so much about performance marketing.
I have chosen native for it's potential, I'm excited to journey into this space and am looking forward to accomplishing my goals.
My Plan:
My current plan is simple, I'm going to break down the 90 days into 13 weeks and set a number of goals per week.
Week 1:
- Purchase tracking and optimization software
- Sign up for traffic on Taboola, Outbrain, RevContent and MGID
- Sign up for offers on ClickBank, PerformCb, Verve
- Start my first native campaign advertising the top offer I see up-and-coming such that it is not saturated
- Get my first conversion
Milestones:
- Launch First Campaign
- First conversion
- First $100 revenue day
- First $100 profit day
- First $500 revenue day
- First $500 profit day
- First $1000 revenue day
- *** First $1000 profit day ***
- First $7,000 revenue week
- First $7,000 profit week
- STRECH GOAL: First $2,000 revenue day
- STRECH GOAL: First $2,000 profit day
- STRECH GOAL: First $5,000 revenue day
- STRECH GOAL: First $5,000 profit day
- STRECH GOAL: First $10,000 revenue day
- STRECH GOAL: First $10,000 profit day
As a huge WW2 buff, the plan looks like this in diagram form
At this stage I'd appreciate any advice on native advertising networks, I'm leaning towards MGID or RevContent.
To your success,
cpablitz
Love it man!
Extremely cool stuff
Here's my thoughts...
Remaining steps:
1) Pick tracker (I use
Thrive - but
Voluum and Funnelflux are great too) EDIT: Just noticed you did mention this.
2) Pick a landing page builder/hoster (I like Clickfunnels and Landerlab)
3) If using Revcontent I would sign up with TheOptimizer, though you don't absolutely have to (just makes blocking bad widgets way easier)
4) Sign up for a spytool like Adplexity or Anstrex (again, not strictly necesarry - you could definitely do manual spying too)
Other thoughts:
1) I think the affiliate networks you listed look great.
2) I would not recommend using MGID - I think Revcontent, Outbrain, Taboola are the three to go with- although I am happy to say I have a friend here on STM who seems to be making some progress with MGID, so perhaps he'll write a case study on that, but for now I would still advise to stick with the other three.
3) If you don't already have one, get a branded email address like "media@xyzsolutions" or "support@cpablitz.com" or something like that - the traffic networks will treat you 1000 times better than if you use a personal email address. Plus its good to treat this like a business from the get go.
4) Make sure not to rotate landing pages on Taboola or Outbrain - they will ban you for "cloaking" (several horror stories like that here on STM in the last year or two). If you want to split-test different landing pages use two different links within the same campaign.
5) The tracking stuff will be frustrating at first - don't hesitate to blow up the support email of the tracker you choose - that's their job is to help make sure you get the tracking working.
Good luck and keep us updated! If you do a good thorough follow-along on here you'll get lots of help and feedback
Next step Omaha Beach fren
12-02-2021 12:13 AM
#3
jack_l (Veteran Member)
Hey @cpablitz - one other goal I would add to your sheet: start 2 campaigns per day.
You can literally turn them off after the first $40 in spend... but the best way to get good at native and get lots of "reps" in is just starting campaigns...
Every day just try a new Traffic Source/Geo/Offer combo... this will help you learn the traffic sources very quickly and start to get a feel for the various cpc's and how the ad servers behave, and all that good stuff...
12-02-2021 12:22 AM
#4
affpayinggao (Veteran Member)
@cpablitz, nice plan, best of luck to you. BTW, what kind of offers are you going to promote? ecom offers?
12-02-2021 07:03 AM
#5
cpablitz (Member)

Originally Posted by
jack_l
Love it man!
Extremely cool stuff
Here's my thoughts...
Remaining steps:
1) Pick tracker (I use
Thrive - but
Voluum and Funnelflux are great too) EDIT: Just noticed you did mention this.
2) Pick a landing page builder/hoster (I like Clickfunnels and Landerlab)
3) If using Revcontent I would sign up with TheOptimizer, though you don't absolutely have to (just makes blocking bad widgets way easier)
4) Sign up for a spytool like Adplexity or Anstrex (again, not strictly necesarry - you could definitely do manual spying too)
Other thoughts:
1) I think the affiliate networks you listed look great.
2) I would not recommend using MGID - I think Revcontent, Outbrain, Taboola are the three to go with- although I am happy to say I have a friend here on STM who seems to be making some progress with MGID, so perhaps he'll write a case study on that, but for now I would still advise to stick with the other three.
3) If you don't already have one, get a branded email address like "media@xyzsolutions" or "support@cpablitz.com" or something like that - the traffic networks will treat you 1000 times better than if you use a personal email address. Plus its good to treat this like a business from the get go.
4) Make sure not to rotate landing pages on Taboola or Outbrain - they will ban you for "cloaking" (several horror stories like that here on STM in the last year or two). If you want to split-test different landing pages use two different links within the same campaign.
5) The tracking stuff will be frustrating at first - don't hesitate to blow up the support email of the tracker you choose - that's their job is to help make sure you get the tracking working.
Good luck and keep us updated! If you do a good thorough follow-along on here you'll get lots of help and feedback
Next step Omaha Beach fren


Originally Posted by
jack_l
Hey @
cpablitz - one other goal I would add to your sheet: start 2 campaigns per day.
You can literally turn them off after the first $40 in spend... but the best way to get good at native and get lots of "reps" in is just starting campaigns...
Every day just try a new Traffic Source/Geo/Offer combo... this will help you learn the traffic sources very quickly and start to get a feel for the various cpc's and how the ad servers behave, and all that good stuff...
Hey Jack,
I've committed these in writing and will be following them. Much appreciated.
To your success,
cpablitz

Originally Posted by
affpayinggao
@
cpablitz, nice plan, best of luck to you. BTW, what kind of offers are you going to promote? ecom offers?
Hey Gao,
Yes, eCom and nutra from what I've seen/read these 2 offers are the biggest hitters on native. There is also leadgen which I may experiment with but I would prefer to stick with straight sale for continuity of knowledge/experience building. If I am wrong please correct me.
To your success,
cpablitz
12-02-2021 07:17 AM
#6
cpablitz (Member)
Day 1, Week 1 Review
Objectives:
- Purchase tracking and optimization software
- Sign up for traffic on Taboola, Outbrain, RevContent and MGID
- Sign up for offers on ClickBank, PerformCb, Verve
- Start my first native campaign advertising the top offer I see up-and-coming such that it is not saturated
- Get my first conversion
Key Results:
- Purchased Binom based on vortex article here: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...sing-a-Tracker happy to change it to Voluum or any other if it proves not fit for purpose. Reason: price, UI and social proof - I see a lot of others here using it.
- I've signed up for Taboola, Outbrain, RevContent and MGID but will be focusing on RevContent with MGID put aside as per Jack's suggestion.
- Signed up for clickbank, performCb, Verve
- Purchased Anstrex and VPN for manual spying purposes
Day 2, Week 1 Agenda
Blockers:
Goals:
- Spy both manually and using spytools in the US for RevContent based websites and create a short-list of 10 offers w/ associated landers
- Setup tech
- Complete NBN day 1 (3hr20min video)
To your success,
cpablitz
12-02-2021 01:42 PM
#7
kalarr (Member)
If you're just starting out, I think for tracker Bemob is a better option.
It's basically a copy of Voluum but costs less than $15 per month.(for low to medium volume affiliate campaigns)
And it free to use for the first 100k events, it will save you money in the beginning.(you probably can use it for free if you have less than 70k clicks a month)
12-03-2021 10:46 AM
#8
cpablitz (Member)

Originally Posted by
kalarr
If you're just starting out, I think for tracker Bemob is a better option.
It's basically a copy of
Voluum but costs less than $15 per month.(for low to medium volume affiliate campaigns)
And it free to use for the first 100k events, it will save you money in the beginning.(you probably can use it for free if you have less than 70k clicks a month)
Thanks, I will try it out
Day 2, Week 1 Review
Objectives:
- Spy both manually and using spytools in the US for RevContent based websites and create a short-list of 10 offers w/ associated landers
- Setup tech
- Complete NBN day 1 (3hr20min video)
Key Results:
- Setting up tech finished, tested with some sample postback conversions from network to make sure everything is working
- Completed half of NBN (had to pause to take notes, I listened every spare minute I had during the day), still disappointing I didn't finish entire first day
Spying Results:
- - Telescope - eCom type product - angle is gifting - sold as advertorial
- - CBD - nutra type - branded with Tommy Chong - angle is prostate cancer cure - sold as advertorial/life-style piece
- - power plan - info prod type - angle is prepper/save money/be free - sold as long form video
- - immediate edge - crypto trading software - angle is get rich quick bill gates - sold with medium form video
- - essence of argan - skin cream - angle is shark tank thingy and look younger - sold with advertorial
- - peeps - ecom glasses cleaner - angle is convenience - sold via advertorial
- - mosquito zapper - ecom type - angle is mosquites (lol) - sold via eCom type page
- - nuubu - nutra type - angle is toxins/aniccient japan detox - sold via crazy advertorial
- - airphysio - eCom type - angle is chest/breathing pain - sold via advertorial
- - huusk - eCom type - angle is jap knife convenience - sold via eCom type page
- - nature fused - skin cream- angle is anti-aging/shark tank - sold via advertorial
- - nerve 911 - supplement - angle is old people nerve pain - sold via crazy movie thing
Day 3, Week 1 Agenda
Blockers:
- Picking what offer to run
Goals:
- Finish second half of day 1 NBN
- Pick an offer - trouble with this one
- Prepare 2 landing pages for offer
To your success,
cpablitz
12-03-2021 11:18 AM
#9
jack_l (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
cpablitz
Thanks, I will try it out
[COLOR=#3 33333]Day 2, Week 1 Review[/COLOR]
Objectives:
- Spy both manually and using spytools in the US for RevContent based websites and create a short-list of 10 offers w/ associated landers
- Setup tech
- Complete NBN day 1 (3hr20min video)
Key Results:
- Setting up tech finished, tested with some sample postback conversions from network to make sure everything is working
- Completed half of NBN (had to pause to take notes, I listened every spare minute I had during the day), still disappointing I didn't finish entire first day
Spying Results:
- - Telescope - eCom type product - angle is gifting - sold as advertorial
- - CBD - nutra type - branded with Tommy Chong - angle is prostate cancer cure - sold as advertorial/life-style piece
- - power plan - info prod type - angle is prepper/save money/be free - sold as long form video
- - immediate edge - crypto trading software - angle is get rich quick bill gates - sold with medium form video
- - essence of argan - skin cream - angle is shark tank thingy and look younger - sold with advertorial
- - peeps - ecom glasses cleaner - angle is convenience - sold via advertorial
- - mosquito zapper - ecom type - angle is mosquites (lol) - sold via eCom type page
- - nuubu - nutra type - angle is toxins/aniccient japan detox - sold via crazy advertorial
- - airphysio - eCom type - angle is chest/breathing pain - sold via advertorial
- - huusk - eCom type - angle is jap knife convenience - sold via eCom type page
- - nature fused - skin cream- angle is anti-aging/shark tank - sold via advertorial
- - nerve 911 - supplement - angle is old people nerve pain - sold via crazy movie thing
Day 3, Week 1 Agenda
Blockers:
- Picking what offer to run
Goals:
- Finish second half of day 1 NBN
- Pick an offer - trouble with this one
- Prepare 2 landing pages for offer
To your success,
cpablitz
Very good work man...
You are definitely on the right track...
Those are all good offers you found... and it looks like you have a good understanding of the funnels for each...
That
#3 one - DIY Power Plans - was the first vertical I ever 'cracked' on native... I don't run it anymore but back in 2018-2019 I did some really big numbers in it, with several offers (though most of them are out of date now, but they've been replaced with newer ones that are good too).
I'd try to find some good lead-gen offers in your spying too (Life Insurance lead-gen, mortgage lead-gen, car insurance lead-gen, etc).
Remember that 95% of the things you try won't work, so it really comes down to building a funnel where you're a) identifying potential offers to run, b) selecting which of them to try, c) trying them , and then d) killing most of them pretty early to save money.
Then when you can find the "winner" in terms of vertical/funnel/offer/etc, you'll ideally run it for multiple years...
12-03-2021 11:43 AM
#10
cpablitz (Member)

Originally Posted by
jack_l
Very good work man...
You are definitely on the right track...
Those are all good offers you found... and it looks like you have a good understanding of the funnels for each...
That
#3 one - DIY Power Plans - was the first vertical I ever 'cracked' on native... I don't run it anymore but back in 2018-2019 I did some really big numbers in it, with several offers (though most of them are out of date now, but they've been replaced with newer ones that are good too).
I'd try to find some good lead-gen offers in your spying too (Life Insurance lead-gen, mortgage lead-gen, car insurance lead-gen, etc).
Remember that 95% of the things you try won't work, so it really comes down to building a funnel where you're a) identifying potential offers to run, b) selecting which of them to try, c) trying them , and then d) killing most of them pretty early to save money.
Then when you can find the "winner" in terms of vertical/funnel/offer/etc, you'll ideally run it for multiple years...
Hey Jack!
Appreciate the feedback, I will keep an eye for leadgen offers too.
(b)
selecting which of them to try - I guess I'll try all of them at some point, but my inclination is to go for products with strong angles and which are more seasonal (such as gifts or NYE resolution types)
(d)
killing most of them pretty early to save money. - suppose this will come with experience, but your $40 suggestion seems low if payouts are between $20-$50, as it would mean I'm break even almost immediately.
I was thinking somewhere between 5X-10X PO to get first conversion else kill
Then spending another 30-50x PO weeding out egregious placements to get to breakeven.
However this would mean an investment of up to $3k to verify the validity of a $50 PO offer.
To your success,
cpablitz
12-03-2021 12:20 PM
#11
jack_l (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
cpablitz
Hey Jack!
Appreciate the feedback, I will keep an eye for leadgen offers too.
(b) selecting which of them to try - I guess I'll try all of them at some point, but my inclination is to go for products with strong angles and which are more seasonal (such as gifts or NYE resolution types)
(d) killing most of them pretty early to save money. - suppose this will come with experience, but your $40 suggestion seems low if payouts are between $20-$50, as it would mean I'm break even almost immediately.
I was thinking somewhere between 5X-10X PO to get first conversion else kill
Then spending another 30-50x PO weeding out egregious placements to get to breakeven.
However this would mean an investment of up to $3k to verify the validity of a $50 PO offer.
To your success,
cpablitz
Yeah in general $40 to test an offer would be way, way too low... but I mean when you're starting out, its okay to start lots of campaigns and kill them early, as you don't really have any idea what works..
So let's say you want to run DIY Power... you might conceivably try:
US-only Desktop-only bid at $0.60
US-only Desktop-only bid at $0.35
INTL (20-30 geos) Desktop-only $.10 bid
INTL (20-30 geos) Mobile-only $.04 bid
US+CA+NZ+AU Desktop-only $0.30 bid
US+CA+NZ+AU All Devices $0.12 bid
Etc
When you're starting out you have no idea which of those might be the best chance at getting an offer to work... so nothing wrong with trying all of them and killing them super quick depending on how they do right out of the gate in terms of average cpc, landing page click through rate, conversions, etc.
Takes a lot of "reps" to understand the traffic sources... each one is different so its like learning to drive a manual 1990's pickup vs a 2008 Camry vs a 2021 Tesla, etc... so the more camps you can start the quicker you can learn how to 'drive' the traffic source.
But yeah, as far as testing an offer, I'd kill anything that gets to $200 without a conversion for sure... and if its like a $20 payout offer I'd probably do half that or even less... you gotta be ruthless with cutting offers...
So yeah, I'd say 5-10x payout to decide whether to stick with the offer or not, and then if you decide to stick it out, then 30-50x to get into green from there...
It depends though too... if I was running some evergreen vertical like US Solar or UK Life Insurance and was only at like -5%, I might spend 1000x payout... since that's something you could potentially run for the next decade if you make it work...
If its some random ecom product that will likely disappear in 6 months anyway, I'd just be ruthless and cut it immediately if not profitable...
But yeah... you'll learn and get your own system... don't take anything as gospel whether I say it or James Van Elswyck says it or anyone else... trust your gut... IM is a "make your own adventure" business as Malan Daras says, so there's no one way to do things
12-03-2021 12:46 PM
#12
cpablitz (Member)

Originally Posted by
jack_l
Yeah in general $40 to test an offer would be way, way too low... but I mean when you're starting out, its okay to start lots of campaigns and kill them early, as you don't really have any idea what works..
So let's say you want to run DIY Power... you might conceivably try:
US-only Desktop-only bid at $0.60
US-only Desktop-only bid at $0.35
INTL (20-30 geos) Desktop-only $.10 bid
INTL (20-30 geos) Mobile-only $.04 bid
US+CA+NZ+AU Desktop-only $0.30 bid
US+CA+NZ+AU All Devices $0.12 bid
Etc
When you're starting out you have no idea which of those might be the best chance at getting an offer to work... so nothing wrong with trying all of them and killing them super quick depending on how they do right out of the gate in terms of average cpc, landing page click through rate, conversions, etc.
Takes a lot of "reps" to understand the traffic sources... each one is different so its like learning to drive a manual 1990's pickup vs a 2008 Camry vs a 2021 Tesla, etc... so the more camps you can start the quicker you can learn how to 'drive' the traffic source.
But yeah, as far as testing an offer, I'd kill anything that gets to $200 without a conversion for sure... and if its like a $20 payout offer I'd probably do half that or even less... you gotta be ruthless with cutting offers...
So yeah, I'd say 5-10x payout to decide whether to stick with the offer or not, and then if you decide to stick it out, then 30-50x to get into green from there...
It depends though too... if I was running some evergreen vertical like US Solar or UK Life Insurance and was only at like -5%, I might spend 1000x payout... since that's something you could potentially run for the next decade if you make it work...
If its some random ecom product that will likely disappear in 6 months anyway, I'd just be ruthless and cut it immediately if not profitable...
But yeah... you'll learn and get your own system... don't take anything as gospel whether I say it or James Van Elswyck says it or anyone else... trust your gut... IM is a "make your own adventure" business as Malan Daras says, so there's no one way to do things

Hey Jack,
Excellent answer, I understand what you're saying completely.
Your guidance is noted and appreciated, hopefully one day I can return the favor.
To your success,
cpablitz
12-04-2021 05:46 AM
#13
cpablitz (Member)
Day 3, Week 1 Review
Objectives:
- Finish second half of day 1 NBN
- Pick an offer - trouble with this one
- Prepare 2 landing pages for offer
Key Results:
- Picked offer
- Got 2 landing pages (honestly 100% ripped)
- Finished NBN day 1
Day 4, Week 1 Agenda
Goals:
- Come up with 10 ads (img, headline)
- Setup campaign in tracker
To your success,
cpablitz
12-05-2021 10:03 AM
#14
cpablitz (Member)
Day 4, Week 1 Review
Objectives:
- Come up with 10 ads (img, headline)
- Setup campaign in tracker
Key Results:
- Got 10 ads, mostly around 2 main angles
- Setup campaigns and landers seems good to go
Day 5, Week 1 Agenda
Goals:
- Launch first campaign!
- Start watching 2nd day of NBN
To your success,
cpablitz
12-06-2021 06:45 AM
#15
jack_l (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
cpablitz
Day 4, Week 1 Review
Objectives:
- Come up with 10 ads (img, headline)
- Setup campaign in tracker
Key Results:
- Got 10 ads, mostly around 2 main angles
- Setup campaigns and landers seems good to go
Day 5, Week 1 Agenda
Goals:
- Launch first campaign!
- Start watching 2nd day of NBN
To your success,
cpablitz
Great work man! You're making good progress
12-06-2021 10:09 AM
#16
cpablitz (Member)

Originally Posted by
jack_l
Great work man! You're making good progress

Thanks Jack, appreciate the encouragement!
Day 5, Week 1 Review
Objectives:
- Launch first campaign!
- Start watching 2nd day of NBN
Key Results:
- Launched first campaign with 12 ad variants on a $100 per day budget with a bid on the lower side at .45c per click on US desktop
- First key milestone achieved!
Day 6, Week 1 Agenda
Blockers:
- Waiting for campaign approval
Goals:
- Continue to watch NBN day 2
- Analyze data as it comes in (once approved)
To your success,
cpablitz
12-06-2021 02:33 PM
#17
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
Sounds good, now the exciting part starts 
Fingers crossed for a good start.
12-07-2021 10:39 AM
#18
cpablitz (Member)

Originally Posted by
twinaxe
Sounds good, now the exciting part starts
Fingers crossed for a good start.
Hey twinaxe, seems like it was a bit of a false start
Day 6, Week 1 Review
Objectives:
- Continue to watch NBN day 2
- Analyze data as it comes in (once approved)
Key Results:
- Unfortunately it seems like my campaign was approved but there was no spend or impressions. I'm not sure if it was due to a low bid or some other factor so I've put in a support ticket
- I've also duplicated the campaign with a higher bid to see if that will do anything.
Day 7, Week 1 Agenda
Blockers:
- Ads are not getting any impressions or spend
Goals:
To your success,
cpablitz
12-07-2021 11:03 AM
#19
jack_l (Veteran Member)
Good stuff man...
Not sure why that first camp isnt' spending... sounds like some kind of idiosyncratic logistical thing... like one of the settings is wrong or they haven't okayed your credit card or something silly like that...
Was smart to duplicate the campaign at a higher bid...
Hopefully between that and starting a ticket you'll get it worked out soon 
12-07-2021 08:45 PM
#20
jaybot (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
cpablitz
Key Results:
- Unfortunately it seems like my campaign was approved but there was no spend or impressions. I'm not sure if it was due to a low bid or some other factor so I've put in a support ticket
- I've also duplicated the campaign with a higher bid to see if that will do anything.
Day 7, Week 1 Agenda
Blockers:
- Ads are not getting any impressions or spend
Goals:
What niche, geo, platform, and bid?
If you bid 0.35 on Desktop in US for ecom/nutra you're not going to see any traffic. Maybe on mobile.
Starting CPC on Taboola and revC for Desktop is like $1 right now. Outbrain will get Desktop traffic around $0.65
12-08-2021 12:23 AM
#21
jack_l (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
jaybot
What niche, geo, platform, and bid?
If you bid 0.35 on Desktop in US for ecom/nutra you're not going to see any traffic. Maybe on mobile.
Starting CPC on Taboola and revC for Desktop is like $1 right now. Outbrain will get Desktop traffic around $0.65
Wow... I didn't realize it was that high... haven't ran US in awhile...
We usually do 'All Devices' in the UK and CA and set the bid at 24 for most stuff... 40-50 for lead gen (lead-gen with un-ambiguous headlines I mean)...
12-08-2021 07:31 AM
#22
cpablitz (Member)

Originally Posted by
jack_l
Good stuff man...
Not sure why that first camp isnt' spending... sounds like some kind of idiosyncratic logistical thing... like one of the settings is wrong or they haven't okayed your credit card or something silly like that...
Was smart to duplicate the campaign at a higher bid...
Hopefully between that and starting a ticket you'll get it worked out soon

I can confirm it did start, and start with a bang.

Originally Posted by
jaybot
What niche, geo, platform, and bid?
If you bid 0.35 on Desktop in US for ecom/nutra you're not going to see any traffic. Maybe on mobile.
Starting CPC on Taboola and revC for Desktop is like $1 right now. Outbrain will get Desktop traffic around $0.65
Interesting, it does appear that my bids are somewhat competitive as I did get position 1 or 2 for most of my ads but I'm not sure how relevant that is.

Originally Posted by
jack_l
Wow... I didn't realize it was that high... haven't ran US in awhile...
We usually do 'All Devices' in the UK and CA and set the bid at 24 for most stuff... 40-50 for lead gen (lead-gen with un-ambiguous headlines I mean)...
Thank you for the data point, appreciate it.
Day 7 Review
Objectives:
Key Results:
- Traffic is live, both campaigns kicked into action and spent their entire budgets within hours, support said first campaigns can take additional time to enter the auction even once approved
- No conversions
First campaign (lower bid):
- Spent $112 out of $100 budget
- No conversions
- Average position for ads (4 are in position 2, 8 are in position 1)
Second campaign (higher bid):
- Spent $140 out of $100 budget
- No conversions
- All but 1 ad is in position 1
From this I can conclude that my bid seems adequate given budgets spent within hours of entering auction.
As can be seen most spend for both campaigns went to widget 120555 which corresponds to
https://app.30922.com/
I tried visiting the website but it seems like it doesn't even resolve, very strange and as can be seen only 1 click actually ended up going to my offer page out of 445.
Overall it seems like my LP ctr is not very high, but I'm using the "ripped" landers most are running and it loads within 700ms (including tracker redirect)
Combined per widget

Day 8 Agenda
Goals:
- Reduce bid for second camp to 1 cent,
- Block widget 120555 and request investigation into ad fraud
- Continue to run first campaign to continue to gather data
- Gather additional landing pages
To your success,
cpablitz
12-08-2021 10:20 AM
#23
jaybot (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
jack_l
Wow... I didn't realize it was that high... haven't ran US in awhile...
We usually do 'All Devices' in the UK and CA and set the bid at 24 for most stuff... 40-50 for lead gen (lead-gen with un-ambiguous headlines I mean)...
This depends on targeting and offer of course
After weeding through the hundreds of absolute shit widgets, the good ones which will work with a high payout offer are $1+
0.65 for desktop will work for RON but you won't be competitve for the good stuff, and you'll get raped by the bad stuff.
If you have killer ad creatives, you can do 0.30-0.50... but that's rare
12-08-2021 11:08 AM
#24
diplomat (Member)
Good luck! I'm feeling a bit inspired to do something like this now as well.. lol
12-09-2021 09:34 AM
#25
cpablitz (Member)

Originally Posted by
jaybot
This depends on targeting and offer of course
After weeding through the hundreds of absolute shit widgets, the good ones which will work with a high payout offer are $1+
0.65 for desktop will work for RON but you won't be competitve for the good stuff, and you'll get raped by the bad stuff.
If you have killer ad creatives, you can do 0.30-0.50... but that's rare

Interesting strategy, I think I will keep bids on the lower side while I'm weeding out bad traffic and then gradually increase.

Originally Posted by
diplomat
Good luck! I'm feeling a bit inspired to do something like this now as well.. lol
Thank you. Go for it!
Day 8 Review
Objectives:
- Reduce bid for second camp to 1 cent,
- Block widget 120555 and request investigation into ad fraud
- Continue to run first campaign to continue to gather data
- Gather additional landing pages
Key Results:
First campaign (lower bid):
- Spent $212 total
- No conversions
Second campaign (higher bid):

Day 9 Agenda
Goals:
- Continue to run campaigns with low bids, blocking bad widgets as I go along
To your success,
cpablitz
12-09-2021 09:46 AM
#26
jack_l (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
cpablitz
Interesting strategy, I think I will keep bids on the lower side while I'm weeding out bad traffic and then gradually increase.
Thank you. Go for it!
Day 8, Week 1 Review
Objectives:
- Reduce bid for second camp to 1 cent,
- Block widget 120555 and request investigation into ad fraud
- Continue to run first campaign to continue to gather data
- Gather additional landing pages
Key Results:
First campaign (lower bid):
- Spent $212 total
- No conversions
Second campaign (higher bid):

Day 9, Week 1 Agenda
Goals:
- Continue to run campaigns with low bids, blocking bad widgets as I go along
To your success,
cpablitz
Good stuff man...
What kind of offer are you running? Don't need to know the specific offer, just the type... trying to gauge what your landing page ctr should be at...
Whether you are using TheOptimizer or doing this manually, I would also block widgets that get x number of clicks but no subsequent landing page clicks.
Maybe any widget with 15 clicks and 0 landing page clicks gets blocked... etc... because you have a lot of widgets with 0 lp clicks, and if you wait for all of them to spend 1x offer payout it before you block them would cost thousands and thousands of dollars.
TheOptimizer does that automatically, which is nice, but you can do it manually too.
Make sure your looking at "Traffic Source" clicks though, not "Tracker" clicks, as the click numbers in your tracker will be inflated on some widgets.
So for instance, if widget 116396 is showing more than 15 clicks inside the Revcontent dashboard, and is also showing 0 landing page clicks in your tracker (which it is currently), then I would block it.
Then if you use TheOptimizer you can also create a permanent 'blacklist' of widgets you block, which you can then upload to each new campaign you start.
You can also do that manually using Excel of course, but way easier with TheOptimizer.
But yeah, don't hesitate to kill this offer, you're up to almost $400 on it so far, and granted a lot of that is on bad widgets that you'll be blocking (so valuable data), but its gonna take lots of attempts to find an offer that works, so be ruthless in killing them.
I expect 90% of the campaigns I start to fail, and that's after doing this for 3 years non-stop and developing a pretty good eye for what works.
Anyway you're on the right track man!
12-10-2021 07:27 AM
#27
directfocus (Member)
Hey guys If you don´t have AM for verve offers yet let me know! : jaime.bejarano.mob
12-10-2021 07:53 AM
#28
cpablitz (Member)

Originally Posted by
jack_l
Good stuff man...
What kind of offer are you running? Don't need to know the specific offer, just the type... trying to gauge what your landing page ctr should be at...
Whether you are using TheOptimizer or doing this manually, I would also block widgets that get x number of clicks but no subsequent landing page clicks.
Maybe any widget with 15 clicks and 0 landing page clicks gets blocked... etc... because you have a lot of widgets with 0 lp clicks, and if you wait for all of them to spend 1x offer payout it before you block them would cost thousands and thousands of dollars.
TheOptimizer does that automatically, which is nice, but you can do it manually too.
Make sure your looking at "Traffic Source" clicks though, not "Tracker" clicks, as the click numbers in your tracker will be inflated on some widgets.
So for instance, if widget 116396 is showing more than 15 clicks inside the Revcontent dashboard, and is also showing 0 landing page clicks in your tracker (which it is currently), then I would block it.
Then if you use TheOptimizer you can also create a permanent 'blacklist' of widgets you block, which you can then upload to each new campaign you start.
You can also do that manually using Excel of course, but way easier with TheOptimizer.
But yeah, don't hesitate to kill this offer, you're up to almost $400 on it so far, and granted a lot of that is on bad widgets that you'll be blocking (so valuable data), but its gonna take lots of attempts to find an offer that works, so be ruthless in killing them.
I expect 90% of the campaigns I start to fail, and that's after doing this for 3 years non-stop and developing a pretty good eye for what works.
Anyway you're on the right track man!

Hey Jack!
I'm running a clickbank nutra VSL offer with the super short "Watch Now" type lander. PO is about $26
Thanks for the recommendation, I have purchased a license for the optimizer based on your commendation and will begin learning how to use it.
My tracker clicks appear to be +-5% of my traffic source clicks.
Fair point, I will kill this offer for now, my total spend has been $463 without conversion. I can always return to it later.
Day 9 Review
Key Results of campaign:
- Spent $463.92 with no conversion, have paused this campaign for now
Day 10 Agenda
Goals:
- Get The Optimizer Setup
- Find second offer to promote
To your success,
cpablitz
12-10-2021 08:39 AM
#29
jack_l (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
cpablitz
Hey Jack!
I'm running a clickbank nutra VSL offer with the super short "Watch Now" type lander. PO is about $26
Thanks for the recommendation, I have purchased a license for the optimizer based on your commendation and will begin learning how to use it.
My tracker clicks appear to be +-5% of my traffic source clicks.
Fair point, I will kill this offer for now, my total spend has been $463 without conversion. I can always return to it later.
Day 9, Week 1 Review
Key Results of campaign:
- Spent $463.92 with no conversion, have paused this campaign for now
Day 10, Week 1 Agenda
Goals:
- Get The Optimizer Setup
- Find second offer to promote
To your success,
cpablitz
Good work man...
Glad you're getting the Optimizer... its definitely worth it.. at least for Revc...
I would manually add those bad widgets from your first campaign (the ones with 15+ Traffic Source clicks and 0 landing page clicks) to a 'Permanent Blacklist' in TheOptimizer... and then also- once you get a good rule for blocking 0% lp ctr widgets going with TheOptimizer- have those ones it blocks manually added to the 'Permanent Blacklist'... and then use that 'Permanent Blacklist' on each new campaign you start.
That way all the campaigns you test are at least helping to build that ongoing blacklist, so even if they don't work out, they're still valuable.
And then just for the heck of it... here's a list of good verticals (not saying any of these are automatically going to work for you, but they're at least a starting point):
-Car Insurance
-Solar
-Window Replacement lead-gen from Clickdealer or Clickbooth
-Clickbank VSL Diabetes stuff
-Clickbank VSL DIY Power stuff
-ED 'Trial' offers from Clickbooth where its like a $32 payout + $32 extra if they take the upsell
-UK Funeral
-UK Life Insurance
-Dating (ONLY if its an offer you currently see running on native though - lots of other dating offers that Aff Networks have that won't work- but there's a few dating offers on native that do really well and have been running for years)
Those are all things you can potentially run for years in the future if you get them to work..
I would try lots of other stuff too... but just wanted to mention those as things to keep your eye on...
12-10-2021 07:42 PM
#30
jaybot (Veteran Member)
Running revC to a $26 payout for a VSL offer is way too low of a payout to optimize for. VSL offers typically need to be in the $80 payout range to be worth it.
If starting out, I would do as jack says and grab some cheaper payout lead gen offers with low payouts so you can start cutting widgets faster on easier to convert offers.
Also.

Originally Posted by
jack_l
-Window Replacement lead-gen from Clickdealer or Clickbooth
These work as a solo offer? I've only had them work in boomer listicles. You run them to a lander or direct link?
12-10-2021 09:42 PM
#31
jack_l (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
jaybot
Running revC to a $26 payout for a VSL offer is way too low of a payout to optimize for. VSL offers typically need to be in the $80 payout range to be worth it.
If starting out, I would do as jack says and grab some cheaper payout lead gen offers with low payouts so you can start cutting widgets faster on easier to convert offers.
Also.
These work as a solo offer? I've only had them work in boomer listicles. You run them to a lander or direct link?
I don't personally run them but there's someone (or multiple people) who've been killing it with them for the last 6-12 months... they run to an advertorial...
I believe the vendor also runs retargeting ads as direct-links (or someone does).
I did run UK Window Lead-Gen direct successfully for awhile though.
Honestly any lead-gen that's working on a listicle is worth a try on its own... just super dependent on creative+advertorial...
As always though, US is hard...
12-10-2021 09:51 PM
#32
jack_l (Veteran Member)
Hearing-aid lead-gen is another fantastic vertical but I haven't had much luck finding offers in it... had one that was going great but aff network had issue with the vendor or something so had to discontinue it...
12-11-2021 10:00 AM
#33
cpablitz (Member)

Originally Posted by
jack_l
Good work man...
Glad you're getting the Optimizer... its definitely worth it.. at least for Revc...
I would manually add those bad widgets from your first campaign (the ones with 15+ Traffic Source clicks and 0 landing page clicks) to a 'Permanent Blacklist' in TheOptimizer... and then also- once you get a good rule for blocking 0% lp ctr widgets going with TheOptimizer- have those ones it blocks manually added to the 'Permanent Blacklist'... and then use that 'Permanent Blacklist' on each new campaign you start.
That way all the campaigns you test are at least helping to build that ongoing blacklist, so even if they don't work out, they're still valuable.
And then just for the heck of it... here's a list of good verticals (not saying any of these are automatically going to work for you, but they're at least a starting point):
-Car Insurance
-Solar
-Window Replacement lead-gen from Clickdealer or Clickbooth
-Clickbank VSL Diabetes stuff
-Clickbank VSL DIY Power stuff
-ED 'Trial' offers from Clickbooth where its like a $32 payout + $32 extra if they take the upsell
-UK Funeral
-UK Life Insurance
-Dating (ONLY if its an offer you currently see running on native though - lots of other dating offers that Aff Networks have that won't work- but there's a few dating offers on native that do really well and have been running for years)
Those are all things you can potentially run for years in the future if you get them to work..
I would try lots of other stuff too... but just wanted to mention those as things to keep your eye on...
Hey Jack!
Thank you I've written those all down and will be executing on all of them. In fact my offer was a clickbank diabetes offer (diabetes freedom).

Originally Posted by
jaybot
Running revC to a $26 payout for a VSL offer is way too low of a payout to optimize for. VSL offers typically need to be in the $80 payout range to be worth it.
If starting out, I would do as jack says and grab some cheaper payout lead gen offers with low payouts so you can start cutting widgets faster on easier to convert offers.
Also.
These work as a solo offer? I've only had them work in boomer listicles. You run them to a lander or direct link?
I saw the offer being run quite extensively on spytools, but as I have now learned spytools often how what was work and not what is working.

Originally Posted by
jack_l
I don't personally run them but there's someone (or multiple people) who've been killing it with them for the last 6-12 months... they run to an advertorial...
I believe the vendor also runs retargeting ads as direct-links (or someone does).
I did run UK Window Lead-Gen direct successfully for awhile though.
Honestly any lead-gen that's working on a listicle is worth a try on its own... just super dependent on creative+advertorial...
As always though, US is hard...

Originally Posted by
jack_l
Hearing-aid lead-gen is another fantastic vertical but I haven't had much luck finding offers in it... had one that was going great but aff network had issue with the vendor or something so had to discontinue it...
Interesting, I will keep a lookout for that as well.
Day 10 Review
Objectives:
- Get The Optimizer Setup
- Find second offer to promote
Key Results of campaign:
- I have setup the optimizer and watched the NBN tutorial of it too, so have a fairly good understanding of how to start using it.
- I spent a few hours manually spying and have a list of offers I'm excited to try, will also be launching some of Jacks suggested offers too.
Day 11 Agenda
Goals:
- Launch a second offer, with 2 landers and 10 ad creatives using the optimizer
To your success,
cpablitz
12-12-2021 09:18 AM
#34
cpablitz (Member)
Day 11 Review
Objectives:
- Launch a second offer, with 2 landers and 10 ad creatives using the optimizer
Key Results of campaign:
- Launched campaign, but moderation isn't done over weekends it seems so nothing to see.
Day 12 Agenda
Goals:
- Completely finish NBN (3hrs of content remaining)
- Read through the entirety of RevContent blog/ knowledgebase/ case studies /API docs
To your success,
cpablitz
12-12-2021 11:49 AM
#35
jack_l (Veteran Member)
Oh - you were running Diabetes Freedom?
If so that's great - that one averaged more like $45 for me... not sure if the 'average' Clickbank is showing is slightly off right now or something...
But yeah... Diabetes is a great vertical.. if you were using established ads you saw working and an established landing page that's currently working, then I would say your bad results are almost certainly from low quality widgets.
So yeah... good to try as many offers as you can (but cut quick!) but you could definitely go back to Diabetes at any point... its a good proven vertical that you should be able to use effectively to build a blacklist of widgets and find a few winners, whether or not it becomes a good long-term profitable vertical for you.
The main problem with Diabetes is that the highest EPC offers right now have really high payouts like $80-$160, so it takes a lot of ad spend to identify "good" widgets or to determine your best ads. You basically have to go entirely on landing page ctr. That's not such a problem though, since you should have a 30-40% landing page ctr overall with those mini-landers people use for Clickbank offers.
Last time I ran Diabetes a few months ago (on Outbrain - got about 10k deep but just couldn't quite make it work) Diabetes Freedom had an EPC about 75% of what my best Diabetes offer had, but it had way more sales at a $40-$45 average per sale, vs fewer sales at like $120 per sale for the other one (some other Clickbank one - can't remember the name of it now).
Also just to note: the numbers above are with a 90% commission... usually once you start sending some sales on Clickbank offers you can email the vendor and ask if they'll whitelist you for a higher commission rate.
Anyway man keep up the good work!
12-12-2021 12:05 PM
#36
Rhino (Senior Member)
Great progress dude. You have done more work in 11 days than what I achieved in 1 year...while working on natives.

Originally Posted by
cpablitz
Day 11, Week 1 Review
Objectives:
- Launch a second offer, with 2 landers and 10 ad creatives using the optimizer
Key Results of campaign:
- Launched campaign, but moderation isn't done over weekends it seems so nothing to see.
Day 12, Week 1 Agenda
Goals:
- Completely finish NBN (3hrs of content remaining)
- Read through the entirety of RevContent blog/ knowledgebase/ case studies /API docs
To your success,
cpablitz
12-12-2021 02:17 PM
#37
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
cpablitz
Day 11, Week 1 Review
Day 12, Week 1 Agenda
Shouldn´t it be week 2?
12-12-2021 02:54 PM
#38
iAmAttila (Veteran Member)
^^^ In a parallel universe somewhere far far away, a week is made up of 14 or more days
just kidding
12-12-2021 05:33 PM
#39
moe877 (Member)
^^ When blitzing a week is however long you want it to be
Awesome work @cpablitz very inspiring keep going!!
12-12-2021 10:28 PM
#40
cpablitz (Member)

Originally Posted by
jack_l
Oh - you were running Diabetes Freedom?
If so that's great - that one averaged more like $45 for me... not sure if the 'average' Clickbank is showing is slightly off right now or something...
But yeah... Diabetes is a great vertical.. if you were using established ads you saw working and an established landing page that's currently working, then I would say your bad results are almost certainly from low quality widgets.
So yeah... good to try as many offers as you can (but cut quick!) but you could definitely go back to Diabetes at any point... its a good proven vertical that you should be able to use effectively to build a blacklist of widgets and find a few winners, whether or not it becomes a good long-term profitable vertical for you.
The main problem with Diabetes is that the highest EPC offers right now have really high payouts like $80-$160, so it takes a lot of ad spend to identify "good" widgets or to determine your best ads. You basically have to go entirely on landing page ctr. That's not such a problem though, since you should have a 30-40% landing page ctr overall with those mini-landers people use for Clickbank offers.
Last time I ran Diabetes a few months ago (on Outbrain - got about 10k deep but just couldn't quite make it work) Diabetes Freedom had an EPC about 75% of what my best Diabetes offer had, but it had way more sales at a $40-$45 average per sale, vs fewer sales at like $120 per sale for the other one (some other Clickbank one - can't remember the name of it now).
Also just to note: the numbers above are with a 90% commission... usually once you start sending some sales on Clickbank offers you can email the vendor and ask if they'll whitelist you for a higher commission rate.
Anyway man keep up the good work!
Hey Jack!
I think the original sale is $20 or so (from what I spied going through the funnel) with supplements sold in the backend for $100 or so but not everyone takes those up so perhaps the AOV is $46 even if the info prod is $20.
Yes I agree, I'm will be coming back to diabetes at some point it's a real problem many deal with and no doubt information and health products that allow people to address it will always be required.
I think the low quality widgets must first be ploughed through before the fertile soils of native are revealed before which no campaigns will bloom.
Thanks, I will keep that point in mind and contact vendors for a PO bump, although I must wonder how is a 90% rev-share possible, especially for non-info products? With COGS factored in they must be losing money giving such a large commission.
To your success,
cpablitz

Originally Posted by
Rhino
Great progress dude. You have done more work in 11 days than what I achieved in 1 year...while working on natives.
Thank you, although it is still early days my mind is wrapping around native and I'm beginning to come to terms with what's required to succeed.

Originally Posted by
twinaxe
Shouldn´t it be week 2?
Ah, good eye for detail. I have removed weeks altogether for clarity. Will stick to days, for 90 days is all I have.

Originally Posted by
iAmAttila
^^^ In a parallel universe somewhere far far away, a week is made up of 14 or more days

just kidding

Originally Posted by
moe877
^^ When blitzing a week is however long you want it to be
Awesome work @
cpablitz very inspiring keep going!!
I love this forum, if only successful businessmen had such humor in my field of work I wouldn't want to leave it.
To your success,
cpablitz
12-13-2021 09:03 AM
#41
cpablitz (Member)
Day 12 Review
Objectives:
- Completely finish NBN (3hrs of content remaining)
Read through the entirety of RevContent blog/ knowledgebase/ case studies /API docs
Key Results:
- Massive knowledge download today, excited to spend this week executing the things I've learned
- Still waiting for campaign approval
Day 13 Agenda
Goals:
- Making some tweaks to my tech setup and getting everything on a CDN
To your success,
cpablitz
12-15-2021 07:08 PM
#42
oasisads2 ()
Hey man, following along! I love the way you're breaking it down into smaller steps and relying on your resources here, these mods are incredible! best of luck
12-28-2021 09:18 PM
#43
cpablitz (Member)
Day 29
Sorry has been no updates for a while, just been busy launching and testing since I only had 1-2 hours every day to work on them so I would rather work on camps than post on STM. Fortunately I've got some time off now so should be a lot more regular
Summary:

- Launched 11 campaigns so far - mix of leadgen and straight sale, anywhere from 8 cent payout to $100+ payouts
- Nothing has popped off yet, but I'm steadily aiming to continue launching a campaign every 2-3 days
12-28-2021 11:14 PM
#44
jack_l (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
cpablitz
Day 29
Sorry has been no updates for a while, just been busy launching and testing since I only had 1-2 hours every day to work on them so I would rather work on camps than post on STM. Fortunately I've got some time off now so should be a lot more regular
Summary:

- Launched 11 campaigns so far - mix of leadgen and straight sale, anywhere from 8 cent payout to $100+ payouts
- Nothing has popped off yet, but I'm steadily aiming to continue launching a campaign every 2-3 days
Very cool man... looks like you're getting some good experience at least....
Dec 10th - Jan 3rd is like the hardest stretch of the year by far in native in my experience, so its possible your numbers would be much less red otherwise.
If something pops right now though you'll know its good, however, so I always liked testing stuff at this time too.
Keep us updated g!
12-29-2021 02:35 AM
#45
cpablitz (Member)

Originally Posted by
jack_l
Very cool man... looks like you're getting some good experience at least....
Dec 10th - Jan 3rd is like the hardest stretch of the year by far in native in my experience, so its possible your numbers would be much less red otherwise.
If something pops right now though you'll know its good, however, so I always liked testing stuff at this time too.
Keep us updated g!
Hey Jack!
Thanks for the insight
Interesting, guess my timing for the 90 day challenge was a bit off but I always think the best time to start is always now.
To your success,
cpablitz
12-29-2021 08:44 AM
#46
jack_l (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
cpablitz
Hey Jack!
Thanks for the insight
Interesting, guess my timing for the 90 day challenge was a bit off but I always think the best time to start is always now.
To your success,
cpablitz
I could not agree more man. And big goals are good. There's a lot of ways to make money right now and they're just gonna all escalate over the next ten years as the money printers get faster, so its good to have big goals. Either a) you hit them, or b) if you end up deciding they're not attainable you dive into the next prospective business model
01-05-2022 01:52 PM
#47
diplomat (Member)
The problem I can see here right now is that you are doing leadgen and straight sale at the same time. They are totally different beasts. I'd focus on only one of them especially when you don't have that much experience. Master one of them and you will see your goal come true.
01-05-2022 04:48 PM
#48
jaybot (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
diplomat
The problem I can see here right now is that you are doing leadgen and straight sale at the same time. They are totally different beasts. I'd focus on only one of them especially when you don't have that much experience. Master one of them and you will see your goal come true.
Fuck me.
This is exactly what I do all the time and fail at both simultaneously
Actually. I make money on stable lead gen. And then blow it all on SS unicorn Nutra and ecom.
One day, I will learn my lesson!
01-08-2022 09:19 AM
#49
cpablitz (Member)

Originally Posted by
jack_l
I could not agree more man. And big goals are good. There's a lot of ways to make money right now and they're just gonna all escalate over the next ten years as the money printers get faster, so its good to have big goals. Either a) you hit them, or b) if you end up deciding they're not attainable you dive into the next prospective business model

Yes, the money printer is indeed going brr at least outside my affiliate foray.

Originally Posted by
diplomat
The problem I can see here right now is that you are doing leadgen and straight sale at the same time. They are totally different beasts. I'd focus on only one of them especially when you don't have that much experience. Master one of them and you will see your goal come true.
Hey diplomat,
Fair point, I was just following Jacks advice to test a variety before nicheing down but I think I'm going to stick with straight sale for now.

Originally Posted by
jaybot
Fuck me.
This is exactly what I do all the time and fail at both simultaneously
Actually. I make money on stable lead gen. And then blow it all on SS unicorn Nutra and ecom.
One day, I will learn my lesson!
Great to hear leadgen is working for you, I think different people are suited to different niches.
Day 38
Stats since last update
- Testing mostly straight sale campaigns currently
- Dealing with revContent disallowing a lot of my campaigns, despite all ads/landers being exactly what is currently running on revCotent, most likely when you're a big fish rules are optional, as in most areas of life.
To your success,
cpablitz
01-09-2022 06:24 AM
#50
jack_l (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
cpablitz
Yes, the money printer is indeed going brr at least outside my affiliate foray.
Hey diplomat,
Fair point, I was just following Jacks advice to test a variety before nicheing down but I think I'm going to stick with straight sale for now.
Great to hear leadgen is working for you, I think different people are suited to different niches.
Day 38
Stats since last update
- Testing mostly straight sale campaigns currently
- Dealing with revContent disallowing a lot of my campaigns, despite all ads/landers being exactly what is currently running on revCotent, most likely when you're a big fish rules are optional, as in most areas of life.
To your success,
cpablitz
Keep up the good work man!
I think you're proceeding just right, and at the end of the experiment even if you didn't hit the original goal you should have a pretty clear picture of the lay of the land.
Would also still recommend checking out Taboola and Outbrain at some point too. All the networks can be quite a bit different than each other, and each one meshes with different folks personalities to varying degrees.
01-10-2022 03:41 AM
#51
cpablitz (Member)

Originally Posted by
jack_l
Keep up the good work man!
I think you're proceeding just right, and at the end of the experiment even if you didn't hit the original goal you should have a pretty clear picture of the lay of the land.
Would also still recommend checking out Taboola and Outbrain at some point too. All the networks can be quite a bit different than each other, and each one meshes with different folks personalities to varying degrees.
Hey Jack!
Thanks for the kind words, I will be sure to check them out this week. Does straight sale work on them too?
To your success,
cpablitz
01-16-2022 06:12 AM
#52
cpablitz (Member)
Day 45 - Half Way Point
Hello all, hope you are all well.
I've been busy launching campaigns, some almost winners but a lot of definite losers.
Summary of all campaigns so far:

To your success,
cpablitz
01-16-2022 07:31 AM
#53
jack_l (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
cpablitz
Day 45 - Half Way Point
Hello all, hope you are all well.
I've been busy launching campaigns, some almost winners but a lot of definite losers.
Summary of all campaigns so far:
To your success,
cpablitz
Eck that's rough man...
Mad props to you for the consistent daily massive action though...
But yeah if you don't see any green don't stress too much, there's a million other ways to make money online and with your dedication I have no doubt you'll suceed at one before long.
01-20-2022 11:21 AM
#54
cpamario2019 (Member)
What offers are you testing, I would pause and gather all your data. Don't continue throwing money just because one user says good work. Maybe test $100 per offer but native is hard if you can't figure it out, and the money goes quick. You're going against dozens of widgets.
01-25-2022 06:44 AM
#55
cpablitz (Member)

Originally Posted by
cpamario2019
What offers are you testing, I would pause and gather all your data. Don't continue throwing money just because one user says good work. Maybe test $100 per offer but native is hard if you can't figure it out, and the money goes quick. You're going against dozens of widgets.
Hey Mario,
Appreciate the input, what strategy do you suggest I should follow?
DAY 55 Update
- Yesterday stats: I found a potentially promising offer but I've had a few false starts before but decided to bump budget from 100 to 200
Todays stats:
- Seems to have held, PO is about $30 (on average)
- Spent all of the $200 budget
- Going to try and bump it to $250 today
- Could just be luck, I've had a lot of false starts before but I've posted nothing but red for the last 2 months so thought posting some green, even if temporary green would be good for a change.
To your success,
cpablitz
02-15-2022 01:51 PM
#56
ScottyG (Senior Member)
Great work man, love to see the progress!
That first taste of green is all you need, godspeed.
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