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09-20-2021 03:53 PM
#1
Rhino (Senior Member)
How do i change my tracking software?
I had started my affiliate marketing career with Bemob (tracker) because back then they were giving 3 months free trial. Bemob is a good tracker but it has its flaws. So, i want to upgrade to Voluum (or something better).
But the problem is that over last 2-3 years, i have created 1000+ campaigns inside bemob and most of these campaigns are still active.
So, it's almost impossible to manually copy-paste everything from Bemob to another tracker.
Anyone knows any solution to this?
09-20-2021 04:07 PM
#2
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
Binom has a feature to import campaigns from Voluum so when I switched from Voluum to Binom it was very easy to get everything imported.
You could ask the support of your new tracker if they have an import feature for Bemob as well, this would be the easiest way.
09-20-2021 04:54 PM
#3
Rhino (Senior Member)

Originally Posted by
twinaxe
Binom has a feature to import campaigns from
Voluum so when I switched from
Voluum to Binom it was very easy to get everything imported.
You could ask the support of your new tracker if they have an import feature for Bemob as well, this would be the easiest way.
Just curious to know...Why did find binom better than voluum?
09-20-2021 05:36 PM
#4
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
Before I was using CPV Lab for many years but in beginning of 2017 I switched to completely to pop traffic and switched to Voluum because the had a better carrier database at this time.
It took only few weeks and I ran to much volume that the costs for Voluum became too high so I wanted to switch to a self hosted tracker again.
When you don´t have much volume it´s not that important but especially when you run high volume ad formats like pops it´s much better to go with a selfhosted solution where you can run unlimited volume without having to worry about overspend.
I then checked Binom, PixelK, Adsbridge and FunnelFlux.
As far as I remember I skipped PixelK because I didn´t get replies to a support request, on Adsbridge there were some mandatory features missing (for example as far as I remember there was no cost tracking), FunnelFlux itself looked great but I couldn´t get used to the visual editor.
I already tested Binom with their live demo and really liked the clean and fast loading interface.
I don´t need fancy stuff, I need good working and reliable stuff 
At this time the whole websits was still in Russian but the tracker itself was already in English 
Binom also had few other nice features like "If URL contains" for redirect rules, you can combine stats from multiple campaigns, you could make notes (wasn´t common at this time), it has an easy to use API.
One more important feature however was exactly what you are looking for: Binom has an option to import campaigns from Voluum.
I also didn´t want to copy/paste hundreds of campaigns manally so this was definitely a huge advantage as well.
Now I am using Binom for more than 4 1/2 years and never had any issues apart from 1 or 2 times where I messed it up myself 
So if you want to run pops or other high volume traffic I absolutely recommend to go with a self hosted tracker where you can run high volume without exceeding a limit, for Bemob import you can just message the trackers suport and ask if they have something like this.
09-21-2021 11:56 AM
#5
matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Originally Posted by
Rhino
I had started my affiliate marketing career with Bemob (tracker) because back then they were giving 3 months free trial. Bemob is a good tracker but it has its flaws. So, i want to upgrade to
Voluum (or something better).
But the problem is that over last 2-3 years, i have created 1000+ campaigns inside bemob and most of these campaigns are still active.
So, it's almost impossible to manually copy-paste everything from Bemob to another tracker.
Anyone knows any solution to this?
Don't forget about one thing, when moving to a different tracker you will have to modify all of your LPs and change the tracker click url and you will also need to change the campaign link in all of your active campaigns at the traffic sources. As far as I know, there is no way around this so you have quite a bit of work ahead. This is holding quite a few people from switching trackers
It can be done of course, but it's gonna take some time when you have so many campaigns running.
09-21-2021 12:05 PM
#6
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
when moving to a different tracker you will have to modify all of your LPs and change the tracker click url
For this I absolutely recommend Sublime Text.
There you can edit hundreds of files at once, for such taqsks it can save hours of work.
09-21-2021 10:36 PM
#7
matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Originally Posted by
twinaxe
For this I absolutely recommend Sublime Text.
There you can edit hundreds of files at once, for such taqsks it can save hours of work.
Yup, mass text editing helps a TON with the LPs, but there is still the annoying part of updating links at the traffic sources, plus waiting for the approvals again. Well, the joys of swapping a tracker
09-22-2021 01:50 AM
#8
vortex (Senior Moderator)
But the problem is that over last 2-3 years, i have created 1000+ campaigns inside bemob and most of these campaigns are still active.
Off topic, but am I the only one who's mega-impressed by the fact that most of your 1000+ campaigns over the last 2-3 years are
still active?
Would you mind me asking what type of traffic you're running? I'd completely understand if you don't want to divulge.
Amy
09-22-2021 05:13 AM
#9
Rhino (Senior Member)
I don't have "1000+ active campaigns". I might be having 20-40% active campaigns, i never counted, so i don't know.
The reason, i am able to have these many number of active campaigns is because, if i find a winning formula(landing page + offer), i'll run it on 10-15 different push ads network. Then, i'll find similar type of offer in other geos. Then i'll run the same stuff in other geos and other push ads networks (mobile-desktop separate campaign).
I find it more profitable to scale the existing campaigns than to waste time finding something new. I believe one shud spend 30% of their time, working on some new stuff and rest 70% of the time on scaling existing campaign(proven formulas).
Also all of my campaigns spend between $0-$100/day. With 80% of them spending below $5/day. And that's one of the reasons why i am able to have more than 150% ROI (nowadays).
Most of the stuff that i run is mostly unique(or i maybe running it on some secret traffic source that other don't know about)...that's the reason, i am able to run my campaign for a longer time (with low spend and higher ROI).
People who are running repeat offers or ripping other people's stuff....for them it's advisable to spend money fast (to book your profits - before someone else does). But my situation is bit unique.
Everything was working smooth(for last 7/8 months), until i recently found(through spy tools) that someone's ripping/running my same EXACT creative and landing page. And i am 100% convinced that it's an "inside job" of one of my managers or staff members (of push ads networks that i working with)....but i guess that's part of the game. Can't help it.
I hope that makes sense.

Originally Posted by
vortex
Off topic, but am I the only one who's mega-impressed by the fact that most of your 1000+ campaigns over the last 2-3 years are still active?
Would you mind me asking what type of traffic you're running? I'd completely understand if you don't want to divulge.
Amy
09-22-2021 01:09 PM
#10
vortex (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
Rhino
I don't have "1000+ active campaigns". I might be having 20-40% active campaigns, i never counted, so i don't know.
The reason, i am able to have these many number of active campaigns is because, if i find a winning formula(landing page + offer), i'll run it on 10-15 different push ads network. Then, i'll find similar type of offer in other geos. Then i'll run the same stuff in other geos and other push ads networks (mobile-desktop separate campaign).
I find it more profitable to scale the existing campaigns than to waste time finding something new. I believe one shud spend 30% of their time, working on some new stuff and rest 70% of the time on scaling existing campaign(proven formulas).
Also all of my campaigns spend between $0-$100/day. With 80% of them spending below $5/day. And that's one of the reasons why i am able to have more than 150% ROI (nowadays).
Most of the stuff that i run is mostly unique(or i maybe running it on some secret traffic source that other don't know about)...that's the reason, i am able to run my campaign for a longer time (with low spend and higher ROI).
People who are running repeat offers or ripping other people's stuff....for them it's advisable to spend money fast (to book your profits - before someone else does). But my situation is bit unique.
Everything was working smooth(for last 7/8 months), until i recently found(through spy tools) that someone's ripping/running my same EXACT creative and landing page. And i am 100% convinced that it's an "inside job" of one of my managers or staff members (of push ads networks that i working with)....but i guess that's part of the game. Can't help it.
I hope that makes sense.
Thanks for all the insight and information!
It makes sense if you're running push - campaigns tend to last longer than for pop. Still impressed though!
70% sounds right. In fact, I wouldn't even start testing new stuff until a good campaign is adequately scaled. It's a matter of spending time on tasks that are MOST likely to result in profits.
As for running unique "stuff": Are you ONLY referring to creatives and landing pages? Or do you have access to exclusive offers?
Reason I'm asking: If you yourself can see your EXACT creative and landing page in a spy tool, then EVERYONE else can. So the ripping/running may not necessarily be an "inside job"?
Thanks again!
Amy
09-22-2021 08:33 PM
#11
matuloo (Legendary Moderator)
That's why i said, it's an "inside job"...one of my manager is ripping my stuff.
It's my speculation, i cud be wrong.
You might be wrong, you might be not.
It does happen, has happened to me as well, sometimes you simply know it's going on

I have mentioned it here on the forum before... with one network that offered flat buys, as soon as I kept on renewing the same spots for a while, those suddenly disappeared from the offerings but somehow the AD widget from the same network still remained on the site but I couldn't book it anymore.
But more often than not, it's something else, not all the AMs and other employees are that "evil".
09-23-2021 03:52 PM
#12
vortex (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
Rhino
i am running affiliate offer. Everyone has access to it.
But my ads are rarely shown on spy tools(maybe once or twice a month). I have ways around it(which i can't discuss here).
My landing page expires in 1 minute. So, even if my ad shows on spy tools, a normal person can't actually see my landing page.
But irrespective of all this, i saw 1 dude promoting the SAME exact creative and landing page that i am using.
That's why i said, it's an "inside job"...one of my manager is ripping my stuff.
It's my speculation, i cud be wrong.
Ah OK - understood!
Maybe check out Voluum's tracker migration tool? Bemob is on the list:
https://Voluum.com/blog/how-move-voluum-quickly/
Amy
12-05-2021 03:31 PM
#13
mylead (Senior Member)
As @twinaxe said, you can try Binom or Keitaro trackers. Both are good, have excellent API, self-hosted and more "hackable" than the cloud-hosted ones. I always prefer self-hosted trackers, because you have full control on your data
12-06-2021 02:23 PM
#14
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
Both are good, have excellent API, self-hosted and more "hackable" than the cloud-hosted ones.
Yup, Binoms API is really nice.
Binom also have some more technical features that I didn´t see anywhere else (before).
12-06-2021 04:33 PM
#15
jeremie (Moderator)

Originally Posted by
vortex
Maybe check out
Voluum's tracker migration tool? Bemob is on the list:
From their page: "Unfortunately, due to the different ways these trackers operate, you cannot move your campaign."
Voluum has a very fast bulk loader from CSV for landers and offers, which is available from the pannel and work great. But it does NOT work for campaigns. You would have to use the Voluum API and make your own script to bulk load everything from the API.
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