The noobs path, push awakening (14)
Hello all! Back again. I've just wrapped up with the 1$ guide, and after a few gaffs I've almost knocked off enough geo's and websites to be in the green! I plan on continuing to mess around under the guidance of the guide for a few days until I can perhaps recoup some of that investment. Then onto the 40 day guide!
Going forward I plan on taking notes/screenshots from my campaigns so I can let you guys get a peek on what I'm thinking/doing. Would try and back track to do it for my first campaign, but I'm OCD and if I can't be 100% accurate with describing what I've done, I'd rather not do it. Critique not only accepted, but encouraged!
So far I've created three offshoots campaigns based on what I thought were promising, and those are Italy, South Africa, and Saudi Arabia. I've also knicked a few websites off, and I'll likely be copying those over between campaigns since there were a few sites that were just absolute lemons.
Super encouraged and feeling super good about making the decision to join this lovely forum. Looking forward to many more milestones.(woo, first conversion!)
Originally Posted by faslikealynx
Excited to see your progress
Will follow your follow along and try to help you as good as possible.
How much experience do you have already with running campaigns and why did you choose Italy, South Africa, and Saudi Arabia?
Also what kind of offers do you plan to run?
All of the three geos are pretty competitive, SA and ZA can also get very expensive,m especially for 3G traffic, and not all offers are performing equally in these 3 geos.
Originally Posted by twinaxe
Still running the same mobipinium push smartlink from that guide, as well.
I see. Well, there's only the 2.50 in those campaigns for now. I decided to run those because they were the only positive ROI geos from when I ran the initial $1 guide run. Figured it would be fun to take them out on their own for the further reading and optimization section of the guide. Will share the results of that first 2.50$, I just hit start on those campaigns now
Thanks for your reply.
When you want to move to the next step after the $1 guide I recommend to have a look at click2sms offer.
Reason is that they have pretty low payouts but they work basically worldwide.
You can often run them in most exotic geos where traffic is cheap and competition isn´t that high.
Your next goal should be to learn how to setup and run "real" campaigns with a tracker, landing pages and so on.
As long as you have to learn how to work with these things it´s much better to stay in rather save environments where you don´t loose an arm and a leg when you make a mistake 
Once you feel confident enough you can still move on to other geos or offers but maybe you also just stick with it because it´s working.
Originally Posted by twinaxe
When you want to move to the next step after the $1 guide I recommend to have a look at click2sms offer.
Reason is that they have pretty low payouts but they work basically worldwide.
You can often run them in most exotic geos where traffic is cheap and competition isn´t that high.
Your next goal should be to learn how to setup and run "real" campaigns with a tracker, landing pages and so on.
As long as you have to learn how to work with these things it´s much better to stay in rather save environments where you don´t loose an arm and a leg when you make a mistake
Once you feel confident enough you can still move on to other geos or offers but maybe you also just stick with it because it´s working.
UPDATE:
The first campaign to conclude was the Italian one, and way out ahead of the rest. Honestly, pretty happy with the result! Campaign zoomed by pretty quickly and seemed to have a good few sites that have a positive ROI, and more importantly quite a few that I can cut. First instinct says bump up the max bid by 50% to keep it flowing after having to cut a few sites with so many impressions.
Changes made to Italy: Bumped maximal bid up from 0.0004 to 0.006, excluded every site from the list with over 100 impressions and a negative ROI, topped up budget with another 2.50$
Saudi Arabia then came to a wrap, and wow, we're in the green without changing anything! What an exciting development. That is a whole lot more conversions than I ever thought I'd see in one country at this stage
Changes made to SA: Leaving max bid at 0.0004 for now, will change it after a bit if it doesn't go fast enough for my liking. Excluded sites with over 100 impressions and no conversions, and sites with negative ROI and over 200 impressions.
Will update from other campaigns when they conclude/when I've made changes.
Originally Posted by faslikealynx
Originally Posted by faslikealynx
One more thing about the geos, they can be good geos for the push sub smartlink but for "real" campaigns I still recommend to better start wth easier geos.
And can you please insert the images directly in the posts?
You can find an easy way to do it HERE
Originally Posted by twinaxe
Great, sounds good
One more thing about the geos, they can be good geos for the push sub smartlink but for "real" campaigns I still recommend to better start wth easier geos.
And can you please insert the images directly in the posts?
You can find an easy way to do it HERE
No images taken for this update, I think I bit off a bit more than I could chew with the update details on the last one!
Decided to give my popads campaigns a rest for the time being while i continued on the 40 day guide. Been kinda running through it (day 12 currently), and haven't run into any serious road blocks with the setting up of funnel flux or anything else. I will say though, as of right now I'm really liking propeller ads a lot more than I like pop ads. Maybe I just need to play around with more broad offers! I tried a Brazillian offer that was adult and TIM mobile traffic only on pop ads, and estimations had my traffic at under 1k a day so I just decided to pick another offer, which I'll be doing either tonight or tomorrow.
My propeller ad campaign targeted at ID seemed to have gotten some good results, but because of the high offer payout I only had 7 conversions, which isn't a ton for me to feel comfortable really optimizing. I made a mistake in the settings of the first one so I (mistakenly) decided to recreate it and run it exactly as the 40 day guide states... Because ocd. Gonna complicate the optimization a little bit, but I still hope to get that done and hopefully create something green out of it.
That's all there is to report! Morale still high.
It´s true that Popads has lower volume for some targetings but on the other hand their quality can be pretty nice.
But with Propeller you also made a good choice.
Keep us updated.
5 offers run on propellerads on indonesia (chosen from a list of best performing offers given to me by my AM), all tested in a top performing country and mobile carrier which were also provided to me from my AM... All flopped. After the initial 10$ spend (non rate limited, decided to just let it spend as it wanted to so as to pick the best offer out of the bunch as soon as possible. All 5 were at, around or far above -80% ROI. Regardless, still ended up choosing the best performing one, eliminating unprofitable websites as I went and got up to around 60$ spent... Still around -70% ROI.
Not going to lie, feeling a bit lost. Part of me just wants to continue on with the 40 day guide (which I'm still ahead of schedule on), but another part of me at least wanted to get close to a profitable campaign with how much time and effort I've put in so far. Probably just going to sleep on it and see how I feel tomorrow. Ego has taken a hit but overall, morale is still high,
When you're testing lots of offers (which is necessary on pop these days), cutting dud offers early on is crucial.
Using a campaign that's doing -80% ROI to cut placements - ouch! I'd much rather have used that $60 budget on testing more offers, and THEN when I find a well-converting offer, use that to cut placements instead.
No need for your ego to feel hurt - there's a learning curve and it's hard to know when to cut an offer lose. It's all about probability and statistics. How many offers have you tested on PropellerAds that started off with an -80% ROI, were you able to optimize to green? You wouldn't know that until/unless you've tested a lot of offers, and wasted money trying to optimize them in vain. This is where tuition comes in. You're paying to obtain experience.
And different platforms may require different approaches as well. For example on a network like zeropark, where volume is larger and a lot of the traffic is brokered so quality is varied, it could take a lot of cutting to get green, and you could still end up with good traffic volume if you're targeting a high-volume geo or another segment.
Amy
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Originally Posted by vortex
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