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Hello guys! This is my first post in here, been doing affiliate marketing for about 5 years now..Anyways i came across this network recently ClicksCrowd on their site they say they pay per click not Per lead or sale. Just wanted to know if anyone has ever tried them and if they're legit.

Thanks

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Interesting! They seem to have been around a while, but a brief search didn't turn up any reviews, which is strange in itself.

I just signed up to the network - I'm VERY curious as to how they can afford to pay $0.50-$1+ per click. I'm guessing they don't pay every affiliate the same rates - otherwise everyone could just send dirt-cheap garbage traffic and make a fortune.

Have you seen the types of offers they're showing to visitors? If you could share some screenshots that'd be fantastic!



Amy

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Sure let me share.

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They only have 1 offer, i've uploaded it here ==> https://ibb.co/9p0x9dJ
Failed to upload it here idk why lol

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The Home Profit System, as far as I know and remember, was a make money from home scam that's been around forever.

I can't even find a working website for this program anymore - found and checked both of these - no luck:

http://homeprofitsystem.org/
http://homeprofitsystem.co.uk

When you click on the links on the page in your screenshot where do you end up?

Based on reviews like this one:

https://scamavenger.com/is-home-profit-system-a-scam

It sounds like the scam program uses a very aggressive landing page and backend funnel to convert visitors and squeeze every drop of profit it can from them.

If that's the only "offer" being promoted - I'm wondering whether clickscrowd is the owner of the scam program, or an affiliate of the scam program.

Have you had a chance to promote this to see whether they actually honor the $1/click as promised?


Amy


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No one will pay a flat CPC rate these days, even when CPC programs were quite popular, all the networks I have used had some sort of KPIs or metrics that had to be met in order to received the premium rates.

And there was always quite heavy click scrubbing involved.

So when someone promotes a flat rate of $1 per click it's just to attract more affiliates and there is definitely some fine print attached to it. I checked their terms and there is nothing about how their payout structure works so that's another red light moment.

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i haven't promoted with them, it's quite unbeliavable thats why i had to ask if anyone had worked with them before, they're associated with guru media as well.

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CPC payout is nonsense these days... the value of a click can be as low as 0 and as high as $100s or more, based on how it's obtained and where it's coming from. Whoever is offering to pay a flat CPC is simply telling you they're gonna fuck with your stats in order to pay you an average that makes sense for them.

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Wow this makes perfect sense. Thanks

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I found a program on a German network many years ago that also paid per click.

At this time I ran PPV traffic so I just bought cheap traffic, spoofed the referer and stuff and generated many "clicks"

Of course it didn´t last long but was a good example why paying flat rates per click isn´t a good choice.

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Yup, there were quite a few per click programs out there back in the days, that's where all the problems with banning affiliates from entire countries started... as there were many "creative" individuals in many countries who started "click circles" and generated false clicks for all the members of these circles

I've worked with some in a legit way but in the end, they always messed with the final rate based on the actual performance of the clicks I've sent.

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Just as I suspected - they don't accept low-quality traffic like pop. And they pay differently depending on traffic quality. Here's more information for those that are interested:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...QI_OUo7NY/edit



Amy

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Exactly as I thought, thanks for finding the doc Amy.

So basically they pay for a LP click (2nd click) and not a unique visit to their landers. This model has been used quite a lot in the past, one of the first programs I worked with worked exactly the same

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I actually didn't "find" the doc - I signed up to their affiliate program to check them out. They asked me to read that document, and if I was OK with it, get back to them so we could chat more and THEN they'd consider approving my application.

I think we've found out what we wanted to. But if anyone has any further questions they'd like me to ask them, please ask them here. I have them on skype now.



Amy

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Ah, so that's how you got your hands on the doc I was wondering how you found it, because I tried quite hard and couldn't find anything.

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Hello guys, I actually got my first payment from them. I sent traffic to them through propeller ads interstitial since they don't accept Push traffic.

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Nice - congratulations! Thanks for reporting back! How much are they paying you per click if you wouldn't mind me asking?



Amy

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Hey, i'm paying $0.032 per click but still need to work on creatives
coz i'm getting 0.51% CTR also a few people are clicking on the actual
clicks on the offer's lander. Will try using a landing page since i'm
currently DL.

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May I ask what the numbers look like when it comes to how much clicks you send them and how much they actually credit you for? Would be nice to see some % even though I realize the % will be quite different for every traffic source/type.

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And they just told me to ditch all Propeller ads traffic. Anyways it wasn't doing so well for me. They pegged me at 100 clicks per day to see my quality for them then if quality is good they'll increase.

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Yup, these per-click programs ALWAYS watch the quality very closely and only cherry-pick the best sources. On top of that, many have a clause in their TOS that allows them to switch you to a pay per lead or sale payout option in case the traffic doesn't back out for them. To be honest, they make it sounds so simple (get paid per click) but in the end they still apply the same metrics as any PPL or PPS program, if not more strict ones. I don't thing programs like this one are the best choice these days.

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It's refusing to upload image here, so i uploaded it here

https://imgur.com/a/gDCXgtC

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I edited your post so it loads here on the forum. When posting photos on the forum, I'm using imgur too. Just grab the BB code sharing url and insert it into a post.

Ok, so looks like they only credit you for less than 3% of the clicks you sent them, that's quite low, I hoped it would be more.

And when you compare the number at propeller, does it match with those 5543 imps they recorded?

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Okay thanks for that info, anyways no they're not matching but the difference is not that much. I'll be trying it again on plugrush, will give feedback again. I have a friend promoting it through Plugrush.

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I'm not running anything on plugrush now, but they used to be mostly an Adult traffic source... is clickscrowd ok with adult clicks? Not everyone wants to take such traffic, so keep that in mind.

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Ohhhh i didn't know that, let me ask them.

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Check plugrush settings too, as I said I didnt use them for a while so maybe they have an option to filter the traffic to make sure you don't get the adult stuff. And if you plan to buy push traffic from them, it doesnt matter much anyways, since you make the AD an the push notification is fired independently from the site the user is browsing at the moment.

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Sorry for the typo in my post - I was meaning to ask how much THEY were paying YOU.

I did some math:

$0.032/click x 5543 clicks = $177.38

And your revenue was $150? So you lost money? My math can't be right - would appreciate if you could clarify - TIA!

Looks like your next step would be to test all sorts of traffic and sources to see which ones will back out for you, AND have quality that ClicksCrowd will find acceptable.

If they accept adult traffic (Plugrush as you've mentioned), there are lots of other adult sources you can test. Below are a subset of them - of course not all of them will have traffic allowed by ClicksCrowd:




Regarding Plugrush specifically: They DO have non-adult (i.e. mainstream) traffic as well, but it only comprises a small percentage (something like 10%) of their total traffic. They also have different ad formats. It may be good to check with your friend which format they're running. But of course you could just test them all (except types that aren't permitted by ClicksCrowd).

Also: The next step would be to cut out the middleman, i.e. ClicksCrowd, by running the same offers yourself. Effectively you'd be using ClicksCrowd as a spy tool. They must have tested a ton of offers and only allows you to run the best. There's no doubt they're only paying you a portion of the money they're getting. The only exception is if ClicksCrowd actually OWNS those offers - if that's the case then you obviously can't cut them out. This is where you can do some espionnage work, on what the offers are and where you can sign up to run them. If you have some links to their offers, we could try and see if we can figure it out.

Have fun!



Amy

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Hey, yes i was in loss on that one, thing is i was still testing different creatives and ad formats.
1. I first launched Interstitial ad format using CPM pricing model and I spent about $10 without a single click lol
2. Then i launched 2 different campaigns, 1 Interstitial ad format using CPC pricing model and the other using Classic format.

From these 2 the classic format performed well, i was now in the process of changing creatives to see which performs better then they stopped my traffic.

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Now looking for another traffic source, I havent started with Plugrush yet.
By the way i have quite a number of campaigns running on facebook ads for CPA Marketing, thats my main focus lol.
Wow i love the idea of cutting out the middlemen, i'll look into it. Thanks for that TIP!

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