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Basic question about Push and Propeller Push ad settings.. (11)


06-28-2021 01:50 PM #1 hudjes (Member)
Basic question about Push and Propeller Push ad settings..

In Propeller Ads, each advert has a checkbox for "Show Buttons", what would be the benefit of having those buttons?

Also I've never seen a push avert on my phone. Ever. So Push is a complete mystery to me. I have an Anstrex subscription, but I think the ads on my phone would look different. Is there a way for me to sign up to get ads?.

Is there a way to make your adds without the large image, for simplicity of testing? I assume certain phone networks would not utilize images? Does the large image usually improve the CTR of an advert?

Thanks for your help with this.


06-28-2021 02:19 PM #2 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

In Propeller Ads, each advert has a checkbox for "Show Buttons", what would be the benefit of having those buttons?
To be honest, I never use the buttons because I try to keep my stuff as simple as possible.

Is there a way to make your adds without the large image, for simplicity of testing?
Same here, I always start testing without big image to keep it as simple as possible.

In case of success I also test big images but I rather test more than being too detailed from the beginning.


07-02-2021 01:07 PM #3 hudjes (Member)

Thanks for the reply!

In order to gain experience with Push traffic I've been testing some Sweepstakes offers via Maxbounty. $1000 Visa gift card for example.

Either my landing pages suck, or the traffic is very jaded. Almost zero clicks through to the offer, and zero conversions. What would be a typical conversion rate to target per 100 clicks to the lander?

I should clarify that my lander is a standard 3-question quiz, and the advert & lander are not aggressive at all. For example, we are not pretending that the viewer has already won the gift card.


07-11-2021 03:25 PM #4 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

What would be a typical conversion rate to target per 100 clicks to the lander?
Sorry to tell but there is nothing like that typical CTR, CR or whatever.

It can differ alot based on geo, landing page, offer and so on.

To get a better idea, what is your CTR on the landing page and if it´s way too low, did you check if it´s working properly?


07-12-2021 03:28 PM #5 hudjes (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by twinaxe View Post
To get a better idea, what is your CTR on the landing page and if it´s way too low, did you check if it´s working properly?
Thanks for your input.

Yes the lander had issues, I'm working to improve that, testing alternative landers. I'll find the best one!

However, I think the icon/headline/description/banner need a lot of work. So I'm testing those as well. I'm working up creatives to replace the poor performers.


So - I have a very basic question, and this has a strong effect on my motivation... Any input is appreciated...


Aren't most people who receive push adds severely jaded? Event the "fresh" new push-subscribers, don't they see several Sweepstakes ads a day from multiple advertisers? Am I wasting my time, trying to send out more "Win a $1000 Visa Gift Card" ads?

Is it really viable to have a profitable generic sweeps offer? What are the odds that I can create a campaign that gets conversions, if there are so many Sweepstakes offers being pushed to viewers?

Or should we really forget that & create my own unique offers?

I'm concerned that the average Sweepstakes Offer is wasted effort, it's hopeless, that I should go in another direction. These thoughts damage my commitment and motivation. What do you think?


07-12-2021 09:00 PM #6 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Aren't most people who receive push adds severely jaded? Event the "fresh" new push-subscribers, don't they see several Sweepstakes ads a day from multiple advertisers? Am I wasting my time, trying to send out more "Win a $1000 Visa Gift Card" ads?

Is it really viable to have a profitable generic sweeps offer? What are the odds that I can create a campaign that gets conversions, if there are so many Sweepstakes offers being pushed to viewers?

Or should we really forget that & create my own unique offers?

I'm concerned that the average Sweepstakes Offer is wasted effort, it's hopeless, that I should go in another direction. These thoughts damage my commitment and motivation. What do you think?
Here is a thread you will want to read, the answers to your questions are in it

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...RD-From-Sweeps


07-12-2021 09:05 PM #7 hudjes (Member)

Just want to drop a note to say THANKS! Twinaxe and Matuloo your input is appreciated.


07-12-2021 10:55 PM #8 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Aren't most people who receive push adds severely jaded? Event the "fresh" new push-subscribers, don't they see several Sweepstakes ads a day from multiple advertisers? Am I wasting my time, trying to send out more "Win a $1000 Visa Gift Card" ads?
Don´t worry too much about such things.

I stopped many years ago already to find a deeper meaning in such affiliate processes and I don´t even try anymore to understand certain things.

For me is only interesting: Does it make money for me or not.

I don´t care about how many or how less people run something, how long offer XYZ is already running or whatelse.

Always keep in your mind, when so many people people promote the same things it mostly means that it´s working

Another good example is landing pages, check the rules lander for adult or survey style landers for sweeps.

Both LP styles are out there for ages and are still the most used ones in their vertical.

I used survey landers in 2009 already

Same reason as before, they just work.

Is it really viable to have a profitable generic sweeps offer? What are the odds that I can create a campaign that gets conversions, if there are so many Sweepstakes offers being pushed to viewers?
Check out how many iPhone X, iPhone 11, iPhone 12, Samsung Galaxy S9, Samsung Galaxy S10, Samsung Galaxy S20 offers are out there, how many people promote these offers, how long these offers run and you can be sure when a new iPhone comes out there will be sweep offers for it as well.

Same reason as before, because it simply works

When it wouldn´t make money then no one would run it and no advertiser would make offers for it.

Or should we really forget that & create my own unique offers?
Do you think making own offers will be easier?

I'm concerned that the average Sweepstakes Offer is wasted effort, it's hopeless, that I should go in another direction. These thoughts damage my commitment and motivation. What do you think?
I think you shouldn´t worry about such stuff and just because you don´t succeed right away you shouldn´t develop a "fail mindset".

When you don´t believe in your stuff and worry too much you risk to have too many negative thoughts that can directly have impact on your success or failure rate


07-12-2021 10:58 PM #9 hudjes (Member)

Excellent! - Thanks.


07-13-2021 12:42 AM #10 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

In my opinion it´s really important to work effective, then you can test more in less time

There are some things we just can´t and don´t need too understand.

Seriously, for some offers that I run I have absolutely no idea what happens with the user when he converts.

I just don´t care about it and don´t even want to understand it, for me is only important what happens before a user converts.

You have to learn more than enough new things so try to keep it as simple as possible, follow the KISS principle


07-13-2021 09:23 AM #11 larsometer (Senior Member)

I'm concerned that the average Sweepstakes Offer is wasted effort, it's hopeless, that I should go in another direction. These thoughts damage my commitment and motivation. What do you think?
Just adding my few cents here as a beginner (doing AM for around a year now)...

Frustration in the beginning can actually be a big advantage in the long run.

Problem is that with (too) early profits your mind gets tricked. You think you know how to make it work and forget that it was mostly plain luck.

Then you double down and once things are not working no more (for a while) you get a big crisis. Only problem here: Wrong Expectations.

Sweep offers are working tho probably most of them don't. That is why everybody recommends to test as much as possible.

Seems like you have found several offers that didn't work. Just keep on searching until you find a golden nugget.

When you then find something awesome you know that you had to work for it. Also you get a better understanding about the fail/win ratio.

But once you have experienced that a sweep offer can make you double digit profit days (or even more) you will see the fail/win ratio from another perspective.

Or in simple words: No Pain No GAIN


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