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Push traffic for clickbank offers? (19)

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Hello Everyone. Hope you're all staying safe. Just a quick question?

Can we run Low payout Clickbank offers ($10 to $20 Range) on PropellerAds- Push and ZeroPark- Push.

I know Native is a good option but it requires a hefty budget. And what budget would you need for the $10 to $20 offers on Native?

I don't want to do sweepstakes, Casino, Dating. Preferably Clickbank Affiliate Offers.

Thank you

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In theory.

A lot of taboola's 'native' inventory is actually push. And I've had conversions on native offers on their push widgets.

But.

I've never converted anything on Clickbank from propeller.

I've tried a few times, and I would definitely get clicks to the lander + offer, but never saw a conversion.

Budget for anything is usually 10x payout for me.

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Which Clickbank offers are you talking about?

Most of the Clickbank offers that I see do well have payouts in the 35-120$ range... its really hard to make anything work that involves someone taking out their wallet unless the payout is pretty high.... but there's so much stuff on Clickbank I'm sure there's something in the $10-$20 range with good epc's, was just curious

As far as your question, I think it would depend alot on the specific push traffic you're talking about.

I would think Revcontent's push traffic would be a good place to start, since its probably pretty similar to their native traffic overall.

Or just take your cue from the spytools and see what's working on which push source.

Also, the payout of your offer will probably affect your budget more than the cpc of the traffic. If you're optimizing based on a 50$ payout you're gonna need a bigger testing budget than if you're optimizing based on a 10$ one... whether or not its push or native or pops or anything else...

Bu yeah, Clickbank offers are great - that's the first thing I ever made work on native with that said, I'd take your cue from the spytools more than anything... and figure out which push networks Clickbank offers are working on, if that's what you really want to run. Or be open to running other stuff, etc.

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Oh! I did not know that. Can you buy Push on Taboola? Or rather, the creative will be shown as push?

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Thank you Jack for the quick response. Cause honestly I want to master one traffic. (FOR CLICKBANK & E-COMMERCE)

And knowing for a fact that ill be running affiliate and e-commerce. Native would be a good option right? I thought about push traffic but its only for a set of offers like sweeps, dating and casino. I'm not inclined towards that though.

Yes, Clickbank does have good options for the $10 to $20 range. All in all I want to test something on a relatively cheap traffic and learn the In's and out's of the Traffic source and The Tracker(Funnel Flux).

On Native? Is it okay if I have a budget of $100 to test a $10 product?

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Yes and no. The push inventory is simply mixed in, you can't separate it out from the Native. It does tend to be lower CPC traffic, but that is no guarantee.

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Clickbank and eCommerce is a offer vertical or niche. Push is a type of traffic source and Propeller, Taboola, etc. are specific traffic sources.

As to $100 to test a $10 offer, that works if all you want to do is learn some basics about the traffic source and the tracker. To be able to optimize and really learn how the source works, more like $1000 or more.

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Native traffic generally expensive for learning. If you are at your early stages, I would recommend focusing on Push first, then expand on native.

In general the 10x payout rule works okay to start with, but soon you'll learn that sometimes 10x spend to test a potential offer is not enough. That because on native you generally start bidding high, get traffic from thousands of publishers, then need to collect significant data on each publisher in order to start blocking low performers.

As you keep the camps running, the number of publishers will continue to increase, so will the ad spend you will need to get your camp to a break even point.

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So would you suggest to start with push traffic for Low payout clickbank offers?

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If you are on a tight budget and the offer has potential and accepts push traffic, then push might be a cheaper option to get started IMO.

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So the offer must accept push as well? :O But how do we know that? I've been thinking that we can send any offer through push ? correct?

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Also, a quick question platinum? I might as well run these clickbank offers on Search ads then? But I've heard affiliate offers do get flagged by google?

My main offers would be software and education? So that wouldn't be a problem for google correct?

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I saw a push notification from optin monster which was a simple message on 37 types of popups to use on your website. I clicked on that ad and they drove me to this page: https://optinmonster.com/types-of-po...ypes-of-popups

I see a bit of soft selling and a lead magnet for email capture at the end of the page for engaged visitors. I can BET they are making great ROI for their push ads. And surely they know their stuff!
Maybe this can be a guide on the best way to use push traffic.

1. They warmed up an interested visitor without being salesy ( pure value and didn't even ask for an optin - forget selling anything!)

2. There was this content upgrade (which converts really well) to collect a lead + little bit of selling

3. Soft sell

4. Then sell to red hot prospects with an irresistible offer

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Frankly, I think you are signing up for a world of hurt.

If your budget is only $100, you have no business running Clickbank. Yes, there are good offers on Clickbank that do convert, but the odds of someone new to AM making it with only a 10x budget is slim and none. And Slim just left town on a horse named Fat Chance.

I would suggest you either wait until you have a bigger budget to work with or you focus on Push or Pops with typical Push and Pop offers. You'll get experience working with traffic sources, affiliate networks, selecting creatives, offers and landers as well as experience in optimizing campaigns.

With a $100 budget, you'll blink and it will be gone, and you'll have nothing to show for it.

Now perhaps you have a bigger budget and this $100 is just something you are willing to sacrifice to gain some initial knowledge. If so, that is great.

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^^ this!!!

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I'll go against that advice and say you can absolutely run many Clickbank offers on less than $100 budget.

If you know what you're doing.

And you want to do PPC search ads on bing/google --> blog+email opt-in (and auto-responder w/ swipes) + link to offer.

It's doable.

I did it for months.

Not easy though.

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came to say this. An offer that requires someone to whip out a payment source, will usually take a little convincing and trust building. A good way to do that is by building a list, and delivering on whatever it is you promise, prior to asking them to pay.

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True that

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it depends how well you preframe the offer on the lander, especially if it is a VSL offer where they need to watch the video.

The flow would be the same as on native ads (i assume) Ad > lander (which sells the 'hook' of the VSL) > VSL

I would be interested to see how it does, VSL's do convert on mobile, but the frame of mind someone is on when they click a push notification, again depends on the image and headline you use in the ad.

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