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04-26-2021 05:42 PM #1 ralph-b (Member)
🤔 Know how to scale Adult Traffic? This might be for you...

Hi everyone!

We’re an info product brand in the relationship space, we sell our own dating / attraction / better sex products.

We’re scaling multiple 7 figures on Facebook. (At least the offers that are compliant enough to run)

(Our products are genuinely helpful and we get a ton of reviews. It’s high quality stuff.)

Right now.. We’ve been testing adult traffic.. But having a hard time cracking the code. Adult traffic is it’s own beast.

We’re looking for someone who has scaled six or seven figures in spend on adult traffic to come consult for us and take a look at what we’re doing.

Whether you sell your own products or an affiliate, all is welcome.

Hoping to meet the right person!

Message me or reply here to connect.

Thank you,
Ralph

PS. Our funnels look pretty similar to ClickBank products, we use quizzes / landers / and almost always VSLs.


04-26-2021 09:04 PM #2 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

I've bought tons of adult traffic over the years, but unfortunately I dont have the time to take on another project. But I'm happy to help here on the forum... post what's you're having problems with and I will try to help.


05-02-2021 03:20 PM #3 leadmarketing ()

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo View Post
I've bought tons of adult traffic over the years, but unfortunately I dont have the time to take on another project. But I'm happy to help here on the forum... post what's you're having problems with and I will try to help.
I have a winning product with 100% approval rate, but I dont know how to scale it, I am working on adult product as an affiliate with Traffic Factory.
do you can help me ?


05-03-2021 11:46 AM #4 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by leadmarketing View Post
I have a winning product with 100% approval rate, but I dont know how to scale it, I am working on adult product as an affiliate with Traffic Factory.
do you can help me ?
Trafficfactory has a lot of traffic and it is of solid quality. What problems exactly are you having, share some details please.


05-10-2021 12:37 PM #5 anhka1990 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo View Post
Trafficfactory has a lot of traffic and it is of solid quality. What problems exactly are you having, share some details please.
Do you recon that Adult traffic will be relevant for AntiVirus offers for mobile? Also, which one to use that offers push /pop , basically cpc?


05-11-2021 09:47 AM #6 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by anhka1990 View Post
Do you recon that Adult traffic will be relevant for AntiVirus offers for mobile? Also, which one to use that offers push /pop , basically cpc?
Yes, antivirus offers do work with adult traffic. The most common angle is to scare the users a bit, telling them that their activity of browsing porn sites was logged and that their computer might be infected with mallware or spyware so their relatives/wife can find out. This has been used for years.

The biggest networks won't let you use the most aggressive and misleading ads, but if you tone it down a bit, it might fly.

PUSH and POPs does work for this, as the ad formats look like an alert just popped up. But standard banners can work well too.

When working with adult traffic and questioning what could work with it, always keep in mind it's exactly the same people you target with any other ad format or network. The people who browse pornhub are the same folks who have FB profiles or watch youtube videos. The only difference is that when browsing adult sites, they are in a difference state of mind, so you need to interfere with what they focus on and shift their focus to what you are offering. That's why you need to use "straight to the face" ads in order to disrupt them from whatever they're doing And slamming a virus warning into their face is a great example of how to do it.


05-11-2021 03:56 PM #7 anhka1990 (Member)

Cheers for that.
I was rejected as of late by Exoclick when trying to open an account.
An adult traffic company rejected me. Such an insult ha!

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo View Post
Yes, antivirus offers do work with adult traffic. The most common angle is to scare the users a bit, telling them that their activity of browsing porn sites was logged and that their computer might be infected with mallware or spyware so their relatives/wife can find out. This has been used for years.

The biggest networks won't let you use the most aggressive and misleading ads, but if you tone it down a bit, it might fly.

PUSH and POPs does work for this, as the ad formats look like an alert just popped up. But standard banners can work well too.

When working with adult traffic and questioning what could work with it, always keep in mind it's exactly the same people you target with any other ad format or network. The people who browse pornhub are the same folks who have FB profiles or watch youtube videos. The only difference is that when browsing adult sites, they are in a difference state of mind, so you need to interfere with what they focus on and shift their focus to what you are offering. That's why you need to use "straight to the face" ads in order to disrupt them from whatever they're doing And slamming a virus warning into their face is a great example of how to do it.


05-11-2021 05:54 PM #8 noviclick (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by anhka1990 View Post
Do you recon that Adult traffic will be relevant for AntiVirus offers for mobile? Also, which one to use that offers push /pop , basically cpc?
Adult traffic is working good for many verticals!
1. Antivirus
2. Finance & Casino
3. Sweeps

Depends on every traffic source ofcourse but overall its working!
We see many people using adult traffic for mainstream verticals. Antivirus is the number 1 mainstream vertical for adult traffic (mobile and desktop).


05-11-2021 07:09 PM #9 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by anhka1990 View Post
Cheers for that.
I was rejected as of late by Exoclick when trying to open an account.
An adult traffic company rejected me. Such an insult ha!
Exo is a bit strict sometimes, especially with affiliates from certain countries. They likely have a bad experience when it comes to fraud. May I ask what country you are from?


05-11-2021 08:05 PM #10 anhka1990 (Member)

London based, UK.

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo View Post
Exo is a bit strict sometimes, especially with affiliates from certain countries. They likely have a bad experience when it comes to fraud. May I ask what country you are from?


05-11-2021 08:10 PM #11 anhka1990 (Member)

Very nice. Is it possible on your platform to buy direct (as in not brokered) traffic?

Quote Originally Posted by noviclick View Post
Adult traffic is working good for many verticals!
1. Antivirus
2. Finance & Casino
3. Sweeps

Depends on every traffic source ofcourse but overall its working!
We see many people using adult traffic for mainstream verticals. Antivirus is the number 1 mainstream vertical for adult traffic (mobile and desktop).


05-11-2021 08:24 PM #12 aiden l (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by anhka1990 View Post
Very nice. Is it possible on your platform to buy direct (as in not brokered) traffic?
I think all traffic is brokered to some degree, especially for push/pop networks.


05-11-2021 08:58 PM #13 anhka1990 (Member)

I actually have a platform with oRTB capability and I've looked at RTB Remanent traffic (via well known platforms) and it's nothing short of appalling.
Those that have direct traffic (fresh subs for example is key with push) or accountable placements with pubs tend to be more expensive but their ROI is fab.

Quote Originally Posted by aiden l View Post
I think all traffic is brokered to some degree, especially for push/pop networks.


05-11-2021 09:31 PM #14 aiden l (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by anhka1990 View Post
I actually have a platform with oRTB capability and I've looked at RTB Remanent traffic (via well known platforms) and it's nothing short of appalling.
Those that have direct traffic (fresh subs for example is key with push) or accountable placements with pubs tend to be more expensive but their ROI is fab.
Yeah one example that was working well for me was pushground, you can target users that subbed to push 0-1 hours ago. CPC was about 2x as much though.

Networks like ezpush have garbage traffic from what I’ve heard.

Have you tried propeller broker traffic? Is that worth it?


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05-11-2021 10:00 PM #15 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by anhka1990 View Post
London based, UK.
Thats weird then, UK shouldnt be one of those "risky" countries. You can always try to appeal though.


05-11-2021 10:03 PM #16 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by aiden l View Post
I think all traffic is brokered to some degree, especially for push/pop networks.
It is, you're right. Not many networks have their own inventory, so large part of them simply sell the adspots or the push/pops inventory from external suppliers.

It doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing, that's how the business works. But some re-brokered traffic really sucks. The worst in my experience are those feeds/zones that basically sell remnant traffic from other (smaller) traffic networks as that's usually crap they weren't able to sell themselves so they at least sell it to some larger networks to get at least some peanuts for it.


05-11-2021 10:04 PM #17 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by anhka1990 View Post
I actually have a platform with oRTB capability and I've looked at RTB Remanent traffic (via well known platforms) and it's nothing short of appalling.
Those that have direct traffic (fresh subs for example is key with push) or accountable placements with pubs tend to be more expensive but their ROI is fab.
Fresh subs usually convert the best when it comes to PUSH traffic, that's very true.


05-11-2021 10:19 PM #18 aiden l (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo View Post
It is, you're right. Not many networks have their own inventory, so large part of them simply sell the adspots or the push/pops inventory from external suppliers.

It doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing, that's how the business works. But some re-brokered traffic really sucks. The worst in my experience are those feeds/zones that basically sell remnant traffic from other (smaller) traffic networks as that's usually crap they weren't able to sell themselves so they at least sell it to some larger networks to get at least some peanuts for it.
Thanks for clearing that up, I understand much better now


05-11-2021 10:50 PM #19 anhka1990 (Member)

It's all good, there are enough good platforms out there that will take ages to maximise.
I got an account with TrafficJunkey and they are more than happy for me to part with my monies :-).
I am on a contact lookout for that fresh sub to be fair. Like you said, many are buying from others but a Fresh Sub is an interesting beast.
When I buy pop to a push subscriber, technically it is a new sub on my domain. However, it's not a Fresh Sub per se because I suppose others are doing that too hence that Sub is getting hammered my lots of other pop buyers or even push owners.
What is then a Fresh Sub in the context? What makes it fresh?

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo View Post
Thats weird then, UK shouldnt be one of those "risky" countries. You can always try to appeal though.


05-11-2021 11:23 PM #20 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by anhka1990 View Post
It's all good, there are enough good platforms out there that will take ages to maximise.
I got an account with TrafficJunkey and they are more than happy for me to part with my monies :-).
I am on a contact lookout for that fresh sub to be fair. Like you said, many are buying from others but a Fresh Sub is an interesting beast.
When I buy pop to a push subscriber, technically it is a new sub on my domain. However, it's not a Fresh Sub per se because I suppose others are doing that too hence that Sub is getting hammered my lots of other pop buyers or even push owners.
What is then a Fresh Sub in the context? What makes it fresh?
The freshness of a PUSH subscriber relates to a specific platform. So as you said yourself, a fresh subscriber within one platform might be actually subscribed to several other push notification lists and indeed, they might be hammered by multiple push notifications daily. So the user is fresh on that one platform but not necessarily new to the push ads concept completely.

But, let's put it this way... a user that's still subscribing to new notifications, even though they're exposed to several ones daily, maybe even hourly... this user most likely doesnt understand the concept or they really might be new to the whole thing. So we might say that even though such user is on several PUSH lists, they are still fresh and willing to click on such ads, from whatever reason.

This is the important part... as long as the user is still accepting the new PUSH prompts, they are still going to engage with those and that's making them valuable. Know what I mean?


05-12-2021 08:46 AM #21 anhka1990 (Member)

Yes, that's what I had in mind. BTW pinged you on FB ;-)

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo View Post
The freshness of a PUSH subscriber relates to a specific platform. So as you said yourself, a fresh subscriber within one platform might be actually subscribed to several other push notification lists and indeed, they might be hammered by multiple push notifications daily. So the user is fresh on that one platform but not necessarily new to the push ads concept completely.

But, let's put it this way... a user that's still subscribing to new notifications, even though they're exposed to several ones daily, maybe even hourly... this user most likely doesnt understand the concept or they really might be new to the whole thing. So we might say that even though such user is on several PUSH lists, they are still fresh and willing to click on such ads, from whatever reason.

This is the important part... as long as the user is still accepting the new PUSH prompts, they are still going to engage with those and that's making them valuable. Know what I mean?


05-12-2021 03:08 PM #22 noviclick (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by anhka1990 View Post
Very nice. Is it possible on your platform to buy direct (as in not brokered) traffic?
We sell it only as a mix! But we are unique in the business because of our fraud filter solution. We automatically refund you the money for most pubs when we see it was a suspicious visit. In your stats in our platform you can also see the amount of suspicious visits on every site id.

For push:
You can target fresh push subscribers for example 0 - 1 days. (very important for the sweeps vertical)

If you have questions you can also text me on skype: jaerts92


11-17-2021 09:14 AM #23 epc-club (Member)

Matuloo,

We own an adult Web Cam offer and are looking for new affiliates to work with on CPL or CPA. What would you say is the best way to engage with affiliates on STM to attract them to our program?


Thanks,
Tzachi


11-18-2021 05:59 PM #24 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by epc-club View Post
Matuloo,

We own an adult Web Cam offer and are looking for new affiliates to work with on CPL or CPA. What would you say is the best way to engage with affiliates on STM to attract them to our program?


Thanks,
Tzachi
Hello, please start by reading our "Vendor TOS" here: https://stmforum.com/vendor_tos.html This page lists the basic options you can take in order to start.

You should also create a signature which will show under each of your posts: https://stmforum.com/forum/profile.php?do=editsignature

The next step is to post useful comments/replies/threads/case studies... add value, help others, prove you're an expert in your field and the affiliates will want to work with you. Please make sure you do not post just to show the signature. Low quality posts and random comments won't help you at all.


12-12-2021 06:56 PM #25 moritzbauer (Member)

Hey @ralph-b

doing info products as well in the personal development niche (7 figs). Would love to connect and share some ideas/funnels etc. if you want.

Cant write you a pm because I have too little posts it seems. Here's my skype: moi5000

Best,
Moritz


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