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Creating a list of E-mail subscribers For Sweepstakes, Apps, and Discounted Goods. (28)

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Many affiliates, including myself, are leaving so much money on the table by not building an email list or audience. For the past few days, I've been planning on growing my audience for a long-term profit. I was being discouraged previously by some traffic network managers and other affiliates. They said there would be fewer conversions because the viewers didn't like being asked to enter email twice: 1st on my opt-in page and then on the advertiser's opt-in/sales page.


On the other hand, I see massive potential in this market if I can build my audience. Just imagine people who want to win free stuff, download free apps, and purchase discounted goods.


So here's my general plan in random order:

1. Get a domain and create a website.
2. Create Content Calendar
3. Grab several sweepstake and app offers from affiliate networks.
4. Find 2-3 enticing offers so they will sign up.
5. Focus on pop and push traffic.
6. Create a Daily Newsletter
7. Find at least 5 competitors

I will update my progress in this thread.

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Sounds like a plan! But I'm a bit confused...have a couple of questions:

-How are you planning on getting visitors to opt-in? Will you be offering a lead magnet?

-The 2-3 enticing offers - when will you present those?

-Competitors - would these be similar sweepstakes offers, or?

As for capturing form data twice: There may be a way to take the data you captured on your site, and auto-fill the fields on the offer page to save the visitors from typing in the data twice. I have no idea whether affiliate networks would allow this or not though. @jeremie @plutus Would you tech whizzes have any idea?

Either way, you can get creative on the reason WHY you're asking visitors to opt into your list, and do so in such a way that visitors would then be motivated to opt into the subsequent affiliate offer. For example - and this is just something off the top of my head - you could tell visitors that you have the most comprehensive list of the best contests for winning free stuff, "leave your email so I could send you this secret list!" Once they've opted-in you could show a pop-up that says something like "Final step: click on the button below and fill out your info on the next page to enter your first contest!" And of course your auto-responder would automatically send them an email with a link to a page on your site that contains an updated list of current affiliate offers. I'm sure you could come up with something better with some more thinking!

Another suggestion: It would be a worthwhile exercise to sign up to some of these sweeps offers yourself, to see how they try to monetize you, the subscriber. Go with the best offers created by the most reputable sweeps networks / direct advertisers - they're very skilled at monetizing visitors so you could definitely learn a trick or two by spying on them!



Amy

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Having to enter his email twice may not necessarily decrease CR that much. You should test it. Based on how you introduce the request on the pre-lander and on the lander, it may stay the same. For example, you could have "enter your email to see if you qualify" on the prelander, and "confirm your email" on the lander. People are used to enter their emails twice, so they might not be surprised.

Even if CR decreases (which is still most likely) at the offer level, why should this be a problem? As long as you make more money on the back-end to compensate your CR loss on the front end, it is ok. The affiliate manager sees it as a problem because he will get less conversion, but that is not your concern.
@vortex, as far as passing the email to an offer, several options:
- Classic coreg, where you sell the email to an offer owner in the same niche. This is usually purely done on the backend (similar process to S2S postbacks). In that case, the drop in CR at the offer is not that important, as you already have converted in the backend
- Passing the email as a parameter in the URL for the advertiser to get it and automatically register it

It is unlikely that you will be able to make this work through an an affiliate network, because they would have to pass the email as an extra parameter in the redirect, but some maybe willing to.

Both strategies require networking with offers owners in the same niche, having good volume (what i have seen is that below 1000 emails/day, it is not really worth it), and good quality. People doing mass emailing are concerned about fake emails that will bounce and increase the risk of them being seing as spammers.

To maintain quality, it is good to clean your collected emails using a list cleaning API like NeverBounce or ZeroBounce, or/and have your own process. These API can be costly when you do thousands emails per day, yet they are the most capable of detecting spam traps. I am personally building a checking setup to detect the most obvious fake emails (disposable emails like yopmail.com, domain not registered, domain without DNS MX entries, common domain mispelled). I eliminate fakes based on these rules, and only make a check with the API on the ones that do not seem fake, which reduces the bill.

If your level of JS is good enough, you can also analyze how the email is entered in the email field (speed of keystrokes) to detect bots vs real users.

If you ask the email early enough during the flow on your pre-lander, you could even do this quality check on the fly, and pass the result back to your prelander fast enough to block the user from moving forward if the entered email is fake.

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The newsletter idea is great.

But here's my doubt in your query. Where are you adding value to your list?

List building and subsequent conversions (and opt-out rate) are all dependent on the value you add to your list.

So you will have to define a flow twice.

1. Where you add value through the site. This should be enough for a user to opt-in in the first cycle - this is especially difficult in imposed traffic sources such as pop-unders. It may work where the user clicks through - such as a push-ad.

2. Where you add value through the newsletter. You cannot spam them with offers - that too daily. Google will put you in the Promotional tab and you'll be lost forever. A one-on-one newsletter would be the way to go.

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Here's a quick strategy I thought up - see if it helps you.

1. Establish your website as a Deals + Discounts + Sweepstakes Site - but not a spammy one, rather a personalized one - run by one person.

"Hey! I am John Doe - and everyday I find the best deals on the Internet for you. I have been doing this for a decade and have saved people over $2,332,111

For a limited time, my highly exclusive newsletter is open for you. There are no fee attached. I don't need your payment info.

Everyday, I'll send you a personalized email - giving you my top 5 pick of the day."

2. Add some testimonials and stuff.

3. Now sign up for etsy and Amazon Associate Program

4. For every email - Go to https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/ or http://www.shutupandtakemymoney.com/

Make a list of their products from these two stores and include them in your email.

5. And mention something like - "Did you know Target was running a Sweepstake that could get you a $1000 Giftcard? In yesterday's sweepstake 183 subscribers emailed me to tell me they won. Here's a link to Target's offer for today - see if you can make it this time. I believe they're taking in Limited Entries."

6. Run contests on your own. Make a WordPress post - Lock it with upto 5 SOI offers. (Ensure they allow incentivisation - a lot of PPI will let you do it).

"This offers comes straight from me, your friendly neighborhood dealhunter, John.

I wanted to reward you for being with me this long. So here's what I am going to do. I am going to give away 5 x $50 Amazon cards to my readers.

Don't worry - you don't have a lot of competition. This email is being sent to less than 10% of my subscribers.

So there's a real chance to win in this for you.

All you need to do is - visit LINK and unlock the page by visiting completing the offers. Once unlocked enter your secret invite code 930333 + name and email.

Winners will be announced on 22nd Octo-ember, 2022.

Good luck!"

7. If your opt-in rate is decent, keep optimizing the daily emails to various segments of your list. And keep adding more subscribers everyday.

This should, in theory, give you a decent market presence + add value at the same time.

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Sorry for the confusion, @vortex. What I meant was lead magnet instead of an offer from the affiliate.

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I actually thought about doing the same for some time now, but I've decided against it since the quality of push+pop for list building seems to be quite low. Even if you do get email signups, you may not get a lot of open rates-clicks. The key question is: what can you offer to your visitors that will make them sign up for your list? And how can you keep them engaged in the long-term? Giving them free offers is the most obvious idea, but it seems like it's not enough. Maybe giving them advice on how to win sweepstakes and free stuff is one way, but in any case, it seems like a tough proposition.

The second issue I found is that in order to maintain the list's quality, you need to offer them more than the traditional sweepstakes offers, which aren't necessarily that good (I honestly don't know whether the publishers actually give anything away, and if they are even honest companies). So you should mix them with offers from Facebook groups (there are lots of them that share sweepstakes) and companies who give away their products. In that case, the CR will be even lower.

But maybe that's just me. My assumptions could be wrong, and in the future, I may reconsider this idea. I'd love to see where you take this idea, and if you do it, I wish you the best of luck!

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@chilldude, definitely I will offer them other than traditional sweepstakes offers. I am planning to promote e-commerce and nutra offers thru email campaigns to generate more revenue. Just sweepstake offers are not enough.

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I was planning to do something similar, but I think for emailing, it is better to have a theme (finance / survival / health / dogs / cats...) that allows to send a mix of offers and useful information. I don't see how it could work with sweeps and nutra (to provide value). On top of that, most keywords in these niches trigger spam filters when sending emails... So finally i decided not to pursue this!

Good luck with that. Let us know how it goes.

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Sorry that I haven't updated anything on this thread. I've found at least 5 coupon/sweep/discounted-good websites that I can learn from:
1. https://sweetiessweeps.com/
2. http://www.contestgirl.com/
3. http://www.onlycontests.com/
4. https://www.justfreestuff.com/
5. https://www.freebie-depot.com/

All of them have angles that I can learn from and incorporate them into my new website.

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Great! I think your challenge will be to create engagement (both to get your emails to inbox, and your publications seen).

When looking at the FB groups of these pages, they have huge lists between 15,000 and 90,000, but barely any likes / comments. That's why you see most good groups owners asking to reply YES if one wants a video, or simply asking random questions about what members want, so that the group stays visible in the timeline.

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Awesome!

I was inspired to drop the first site into builtwith - and was impressed by the LONG list of different ways they're monetizing their traffic. Please scroll down to the "Advertising" section:

https://builtwith.com/?https://sweetiessweeps.com/

May provide further inspiration.



Amy

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Very interesting. I will spend more time evaluating it.

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Last night, I was thinking of creating a new site using the elements from https://sweetiessweeps.com/ and https://www.justfreestuff.com/ ( as my first website template. I like the "Categories" feature of Justfreestuff and the layout of Sweeties Sweeps. Since I may use the same WordPress template for 2nd and 3rd tier countries, my concern is that the loading time may be super slow. What do guys think of it?

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WP is not the best idea if you want a fast website.
I use Hugo to generate static HTML sites that load fast. Here you have lots of free templates:
https://themes.gohugo.io/

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Sounds like the business model from the Charles Ngo course. This is definitely give you a leg up on the competition. I would like to try this type of business model too but I have not mastered the direct monetization method yet. When I will be making consistent profits from basic campaigns then I will try it out. Otherwise I would be jumping from middle-school to the high-school while I have not mastered the middle-school material . I don't know your level but if you have mastered newbie stuff - push your comfort and grow. Crush the competition

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Thanks. I tested the WordPress-based websites on my smartphone and they are loading relatively quick. For 2nd and 3rd tier countries, definitely I need to use static HTML templates because the loading time can be slow.

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Next Plan:
I am going to hire someone on either Fiverr or Upwork to build a WordPress-based Website. Below are the things that I want him/her to do:

1. Creating Logo
2. Installing the plugins
3. Setting up Opt-in feature in the website
4. Creating Categories
5. Advising me an appropriate template for the website
6. Creating Documentation
7. Suggesting me if some plugins will conflict with one another

My budget is $50-$100.

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The two biggest tips I can give regarding minimizing loading speed for wordpress sites are:

1)Use a fast wordpress theme. There are themes that are built for speed. Test a few to see which is fastest.

2)Minimize the use of plugins. Also, some plugins slow down the site more than others. Test loading speed with and without a plugin to see how much it contributes to loading time, and decide whether the additional functionality is worth it. Also test several plugins of same/similar functionality to find the fastest one.

3)Optimize your image size. Lots of info in google on how to do that. e.g. More efficient image format, lower resolution, use of image compression service/software - such as https://kraken.io/.


There are also plugins that claim they can make your site faster, but somehow I've never had much luck with those. But then, I'm not very technical. Maybe a more technically-inclined person would be able to play with the settings more skillfully to achieve better results.



Amy

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And one more tip on top of what Amy posted above: CACHING! Make sure to use some good caching plugin that can help with the speed a lot.

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LOL cashing plugins are what I was referring to when I said "plugins that claim they can make your site faster, but somehow I've never had much luck with".

But yes I have no doubt that in the right hands, they can be helpful.

Plugins are a double-edged sword: You just need to make sure the caching plugin will speed up your site MORE than it will slow it down by its sheer existence.



Amy

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Hehe, you got me fooled

And yup, some plugins promise the heaven and moon but fail to deliver, so it's definitely very wise to install as few as needed and properly research them first.

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I have read the thread and I find it very interesting.


I am launching a project with this intention. Build list and monetize them. To give value, I have generated almost 500 quizzes and personality tests. What allows me to have very well labeled users and thus be able to offer them offers of their interest.


I am driving traffic with Facebook.


About Wordpress, I have a lot of experience. The theme that I use is GeneratePress because of its speed and the possibility of customization.


If you are interested in quiz theme, there are good plugins for Wordpress, such as https://quizeplugin.com/ or https://bimber.bringthepixel.com/. Although the latter is true that it slows down a bit because it has many accessories.


Good luck and if I can help you, you just have to ask me.


ahm! It may also be interesting to add some gamification (gamipress) to retain users

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How is the quizzes project coming along? Seeing some better results yet?

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How is the quizzes project coming along? Seeing some better results yet?

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[QUOTE = matuloo; 420037] ¿Cómo va el proyecto de cuestionarios? ¿Ves mejores resultados todavía? [/ QUOTE]

The truth is that I have not spent much time. I have been setting up an APP on Android for Quiz and to pass it to Unity and be able to put it in Facebook Game. I am also learning to use FunnelFlux and Voluum… so I have been at the top.

I have gotten one of beauty personality and I am generating quite a few emails. Now I am studying what funnel I can create that gives value and loyalty to users to offer them CPA, Amazon products ...


These days I want to move forward. I have also been doing the Facebook courses and I liked and clarified many things.

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Gotcha! Email lists can work great, but it takes some time to set everything up properly and to find the right monetization method. I've done some tests with IQ tests and horoscopes in the past, it worked pretty well.. I think it might work well with quizz audience too.

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Thanks. Quize seems like an interesting plug-in. Btw, have FB restricted your account or ban it without any good reasons?

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If you're interested in following @ramagu's journey with quizzes, here's a more recent thread: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...0-1000-per-day

Quite an interesting project.



Amy

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