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Would you prefer wordpress for push traffic? (33)

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Would you prefer wordpress for push traffic? If not, what's a better substitute?

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What exactly do you mean?

To collect subscribers or for landing pages for push traffic?

But apart from that I wouldn´t use Wordpress for none of the options

Depends on what you mean, for wat you want to use it.

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To collect subscibers from the wordpress blog and then direct them to the offer or landing page or elsewhere depending on where they clicked.

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The question is, how would you drive traffic to the blog and will it be a real blog or you're trying to build LPs with WP?

1000s of people are using WP to create blogs and it's actually a great CMS with pretty much unlimited options and customizations possible. But it's quite code heavy so it doesn't load as fast as a simple custom coded LP.

So if you're planning to buy traffic and then send it to a WP page and collect subscribers that way, don't do that, you will lose a significant amount of the visits because they simply won't wait for the page to load.

You could create a hybrid setup... send the bough clicks to a simple LP, try to collect subs or grab their attention, then present the actual content of your WP blog in the next step. Once they are interested to see more, they will wait, but the initial LP should load as fast as possible.

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I'm launcing a website in the travel niche that will have both free and paid traffic. And I was thinking of sending cheap clicks to the website with push traffic to collect leads.

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Ok, so for a website that you would try to rank and get organic traffic for, WP is a good solution for sure. Using push traffic to get some readers for the better articles/pages could work too, if you design the ads in a way that implies a "long" read is ahead, the users will likely wait a few seconds for the content page to load and with some popup collection box or a push subscription alert, you will also collect some subs for sure. If you use some light template and chose your plugins wisely and not too many of them, it could probably work.

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Sounds good.
I am designing in a way that they give out their email first before they get their bribe (free ebook or video) with the option to cancel. If they cancel, they read the blog post and it will have links where they give their email first before going to an affiliate page or my store.
I am thinking over the points you made and integrate to my plan.
Cheers.

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Yeah,I suggest its better to redirect directly on the landing page

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Cheers.

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@matuloo what about wix? Just curious. I won't use it. Wordpress is my "go-to" platform.

Wait.. @matuloo again... what you think of push traffic to the blog section of Shopify website? And I am serious about implementing it if feasible! Not just curiosity!!
Will the page load fast for the needs of push traffic? Then I collect the lead and have a few affiliates links within the post pointing outside and to products within the store? And then do email marketing to warm up the leads... before sending sales emails. Thoughts please?!

Also, will there be issues if I have a mixture of affiliate links ( after cloaking with pretty links) plus links to the same store directing to my products?

Answer on wix will be helpful but I am no more interested.

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From what I know about WIX, it's a bit more "closed" ecosystem than WP. So less options in general, more limitations, less personalization options... websites are build by using their builder and they also host them. So it can translate to a more smooth experience, since they develop all the features (I believe) but some options you require might not be available. I would compare it to apple products maybe... what they have works great, but if you want to add something that they dont provide, it's a no-go. I don't like the fact that you need to use their hosting the most, to be honest... there are always some limitations tied to this.

So personally, I would chose WP over Wix.

Push is not as speed sensitive as POPs, so it could work, but the pages still have to load fast as nobody will wait 10 seconds for a page to render these days. So it's gonna come down to how well you can optimize your page, how many plugins you use etc...

And you can still use the approach where you send push traffic to a simple static html page that is not based on WP... just make it look like your blog, or design a simple "welcome page" put the collection box on top of it and only when they click further, send them to the full WP blog, know what I mean?

EDIT: Ah wait, so a Shopify store, not WP? That should work too, I'm pretty sure people are testing push traffic with their shopify stores.

I think I got a bit lost here, so what are you trying to build? a WP blog with an integrated ecomm store, or a shopify store where you will create a blog section... or something else?

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With WIX you pay a premium because you have everything integrated. At least 12.50 USD per month. It can be good to start, but I think it is best to spend the time to learn WP or static landers. It will pay off more on the long-term.

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Sorry for confusing you.
Let me clarify:
I have push credits left over from a long time as I was focusing on other traffic. Now I want to get back to push. I initally wanted to send the traffic wordpress blog and still want to. And the information you gave later and now has been helpful after the concerns you raised in an earlier post about sending push traffic to wordpress.
While I was checking my shopify store, it suddenly came to me if I can use their blog feature and maybe it will not have the problems that wordpress has with push traffic. Then I can have a few links on the post directing the traffic to affiliate sites and my own products on the store. What do you think Shopify blog is better than wordpress blog for push traffic?
As far as wix is concerned I just needed a bit of THEORETICAL information about the plaform and how it works. There's no way I will use wix.

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Ok, the only problem here is the actual loading speed of the destination page. I'm not personally a shopify user myself, but I'd say it should load faster than a poorly optimized WP blog with a gazillion of plugins installed

In the end, WP based or Shopify or WIX... as long as it loads fast enough, you can send push traffic to it without any problems. Let me repeat myself again, push traffic is NOT as speed sensitive as POPs, so maybe we are overanalyzing here a bit

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@matuloo I'm overanalyzing indeed! But stumbling upon the Shopify idea seems good because having the blog in Shopify itself is way more effective than sending subscribers from wordpress blog to shopify. The end goal is to make them purchase anyways.

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Yup, if you're using shopify as the system to power your store, it's a good idea to keep it all in one place. There is just one major disadvantage here, shopify still "owns" the store pretty much since it's their system and their hosting, so they can shut down your store if they decide to do so... it has happened to many people already. I'm not sure how "bad" things once has to do in order for this to happen, but I've seen people complaining about losing their stores this way.

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Wow, I wasn't aware of that. I thought it is in extreme cases like illegal drugs. Their support is super awesome though. I will ask them what leads to bans but again I will be dealing with low level support staff who don't have much information. What led to the bans and is it random like Facebook? I've heard Facebook bans will be far less and they will get lenient after the elections.

Another question - Can I add affiliate links to those blog posts pointing out of shopify, will they allow that? And if I use pretty links plugin inside my wordpress website with another domain name and take the link generated to use on that shopify blog, will it work alright? I can check it myself anyways though - like if it's working and getting tracked.

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I've just seen a FB post in some e-comm group where a guy complained about his Shopify store getting banned withot any explanation, then he started complaining on their facebook page and was told it was a mistake... can't find the post now, wanted to make you a screen, but my FB newsfeed is pretty crowded Anyways, they do ban even when customers complain, I've seen people reporting bans because of false accusation from competition etc... I'm not sure how much of an issue this is generally, as usually you see people complaining more than posting positive things, but the bans do happen.

As for FB bans, it's very likely that the bans will ease after the election, it's pretty much the general consensus now, we shall see pretty soon.

I'm not sure what's their policy for linking to other web resources from the actual shopify blog, but I did a quick google search and looks like people are doing this : https://www.google.com/search?q=can+...hrome&ie=UTF-8

I assume there might be some rules applicable here though, better check with the support or search the Shopify community forums: https://community.shopify.com/c/Shop...munity/ct-p/en

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@matuloo Thank you!

Google penalties, random Facebook and Shopify bans. It looks like they are more powerful than God. When I first heard of Shopify I remember reading that they allowed some criminals or nexus to have their store. And now random bans...
And when FB started selling ads no one imagined they would randomly ban anyone who is paying them money.

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When starting out, they're all happy to take any client, but once the operation stabilizes, they all become picky all of a sudden Natural cycle of any business

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@matuloo there's this plugin which seems to overcome Wordpress speed problems: https://wp-rocket.me/ Does this seem to overcome the wordpress problems you talked about? Or there's more to it?

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The way i see this thread: finding patches for a problem you won't have if you were not using WordPress.

I don't know what is the purpose of this, honestly. What are you trying to achieve?

I have been there. Tried WP Total Cache and various other plugins. You have to do the maintenance of WordPress to avoid hacks. Nowadays, WP can have automatic updates, but then, you have to make sure the updates of the plugins get done correctly. Some plugins may not work with a new version of WP and then you have a broken website. To check that plugins are timely updated, you can have a monitoring system that checks the version of plugins and pushes the updates. Then, you have to make sure the update did not break something because it is not compatible with your theme...

Why do you want to add so many extra variables? Isn't AM complicated enough? What is your reason to use WordPress versus a static page?

I will leave you with this quote of a French author and pilot, Antoine de Saint Exupery

"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."

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I have ALREADY got an answer to my questions. I don't think updating the thread with something new I see and relevant to the thread is wrong. It's about brainstorming and building upon knowledge. Not necessarily implementation.
Thanks for sharing the lovely quote.

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These plugins can improve the performance for sure, but there are still limits. Even a clean and optimized WP code is still quite big (in terms of the code lenght) and that means longer loading times than a simple static page, there is no way to change this

It all comes down to what you actually need, if you need all the advanced functions, you have to sacrifice "part" of the speed, even a custom coded website will always load a bit slower than a static 1-page LP. In case you're going for a simple layout and basic functions, there is no need to use something as WP.

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@matuloo great! Helpful indeed.

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I came across gempages ( a Shopify app) that seems to solve the problem of slow loading landing pages.

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I tried to look at the reviews here: https://apps.shopify.com/gempage/rev...ort_by=helpful

The overall score looks very good, but there is a fair amount of negative reviews too, some of them mentioning very long loading times too. As always, part of the complaints are likely to be from people who don't understand what they are doing, but as with any builder, there will be issues here and there. Looks like a good option to try anyways.

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Agree.
I stay away from some products even with a single negative review that seems genuine and concerning. For example, I wanted to buy a physical product - himalayan rock salt and it had a few negative reviews like adultery with normal salt. Yet an overall review of 4.9/5. I decided to stay away.
Also, apps like oberlo and dropified that had high ratings earlier, suddenly have lots of negative reviews and their overall rating is slowly coming down. Again they are necessary evils.
But surely gempages looks good despite the negative reviews and no harm using their 10 day free trial. Also, SEEMS a good (and faster!) substitute to clickfunnels for shopify.

I also got this one https://swipepages.com/ Appsumo deal $49 lifetime plan. 60 days money back guarantee. Again, no risk at all.

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I saw this one. There is a 100,000 monthly visits limit, in case you did not see.
Waiting for Appsumo black friday deals :-)

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Yes, you can purchase right now at $49 onwards ( incase you are stacking up the codes) instead of waiting till Black Friday.
The price will be the same I think. I have been observing their patterns since 2017. They generally don't make it cheaper during black fridays.

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I know. Not waiting for this one in particular, but they have some regular deals like the Depositphotos deal. I usually buy one or two.

And they have an awesome trailer this year :-D

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Yup, blackfriday will definitely bring a few sweet deals. I plan to do some shopping too

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Indeed!

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Happy shopping!

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