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08-30-2020 01:32 PM #1 duykin (Member)
Need advice for traffic sources

Hi Amy and everyone,
I have read all 40 day your tutorial for the past two months with Propeller Ads, here are some of my shares:
• First of all, I think Propeller is only profitable for SOI Sweepstakes campaigns at tier 3 and 4 GEOs. Also, I cannot make a profit with US GEO (tier 1).
• I know that for US GEO, it’s really hard to make profits with sites like Propeller, Zeropark, Pop Ads. So can you help me answer some of my questions or other members?
1. The networks that I am targeting such as Max bounty, Cactus media, Panthera. As far as I know, these networks have similar verticals, mainly US GEO and SOI leadgen. So it is difficult to run these campaigns?
2. I’ll list a few examples of campaigns from those networks as follows:
• Healthy living Freebies US
• US Opinion Poll
• Sweepstakes buck US
All three of these campaigns require 1st page submit, so can you tell me which traffic source is suitable for them? I learned and learned that Facebook Ads and Bing Ads would be the best. But with a payout from 0,5 to $2/camps is it feasible or not?
Thank you for reading my article and looking forward to the earliest answer.

08-30-2020 05:29 PM #2 mantas (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by duykin View Post
1. The networks that I am targeting such as Max bounty, Cactus media, Panthera. As far as I know, these networks have similar verticals, mainly US GEO and SOI leadgen. So it is difficult to run these campaigns?
Hey duykin,

why don't you try other networks? Like the ones suggested in the 40-day tutorial. As an affiliate marketer you should be working with many networks.

08-31-2020 06:01 AM #3 duykin (Member)

I have just given a few networks for reference, there are many more. I just wonder about SOI lead gen US geo campaigns like some of the campaigns that I have for example, you can refer to a few other campaigns like:Health Benefits, PCH ( Publishers Clearing House ), Unemployment Assistance, Money Finder, Free Brand Samples, etc.. These campaigns often have very high conversion rates and it is good. This is the problem that I am wondering so if you know please share. Thanks for your answer and I wish you have a good day.

08-31-2020 06:03 AM #4 duykin (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mantas View Post
Hey duykin,

why don't you try other networks? Like the ones suggested in the 40-day tutorial. As an affiliate marketer you should be working with many networks.
I have just given a few networks for reference, there are many more. I just wonder about SOI lead gen US geo campaigns like some of the campaigns that I have for example, you can refer to a few other campaigns like:Health Benefits, PCH ( Publishers Clearing House ), Unemployment Assistance, Money Finder, Free Brand Samples, etc.. These campaigns often have very high conversion rates and it is good. This is the problem that I am wondering so if you know please share. Thanks for your answer and I wish you have a good day.

08-31-2020 08:46 PM #5 mantas (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by duykin View Post
I just wonder about SOI lead gen US geo campaigns
US is generally considered to be the hardest GEO just because most of the affiliates are focusing on it.

09-01-2020 12:41 PM #6 duykin (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mantas View Post
US is generally considered to be the hardest GEO just because most of the affiliates are focusing on it.
So can you suggest me some traffic sources that can run well there?

09-01-2020 02:00 PM #7 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by duykin View Post
So can you suggest me some traffic sources that can run well there?
Any traffic source can work in the US geo, keep in mind that pretty much all the traffic sources are auction based... so whoever is paying the top prices for the clicks is making so because it works out for them.

The problem with the US GEO is not the traffic itself, it's the competition and what they run.

US is the most profitable GEO, generally speaking. So it attracts the most whales and these people usually have something you don't (most likely)... specific offers with very high payouts, better skills or automation tools etc... so as a new affiliate you simply won't be able to compete with them, they can afford to pay more for the traffic than you can.

If you really want to try US, do not try to be one of the top bidders. Take the left-over traffic and see whether you can make it work. If you can, slowly climb your way up.

09-01-2020 02:15 PM #8 duykin (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo View Post
Any traffic source can work in the US geo, keep in mind that pretty much all the traffic sources are auction based... so whoever is paying the top prices for the clicks is making so because it works out for them.

The problem with the US GEO is not the traffic itself, it's the competition and what they run.

US is the most profitable GEO, generally speaking. So it attracts the most whales and these people usually have something you don't (most likely)... specific offers with very high payouts, better skills or automation tools etc... so as a new affiliate you simply won't be able to compete with them, they can afford to pay more for the traffic than you can.

If you really want to try US, do not try to be one of the top bidders. Take the left-over traffic and see whether you can make it work. If you can, slowly climb your way up.
Can you tell me which traffic source is best for the United States? I mean the easiest to convert, I'm not talking about bid. I learn about facebook and bing and native, can you give me advice on these resources? Thank you.

09-01-2020 04:46 PM #9 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by duykin View Post
Can you tell me which traffic source is best for the United States? I mean the easiest to convert, I'm not talking about bid. I learn about facebook and bing and native, can you give me advice on these resources? Thank you.
One thing you need to realize is that US traffic on most/all traffic sources are making profits for advertisers. Nobody in their right mind would bid such high amounts if they aren't making money.

But matuloo has painted the reality: The biggest pieces of the pie can only be gotten if you have some sort of advantage. Either your own offer, or an exclusive offer, or an exclusively-high payout, some technological advantage (e.g. special scripts or automatic optimization that allows you to squeeze more revenue from the same traffic), etc.

But you can still take a small slice of that pie - just be prepared to do a lot more testing and optimization before hitting green, and spending more money in the process than you would for less popular geos.

The main question shouldn't be "which traffic source has the best-converting US traffic", because pretty much all sources can be monetized.

The question to ask is: What kinds of offers are converting the best on EACH traffic type?

Are you subscribed to any spy tools? I'm not familiar with Bing, but for Facebook check out Visto:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...or-STM-Readers

And for Native check out Adplexity Native:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...or-STM-Members

Filter by the US, and look for ads that have either received the most traffic or were run for long durations. Here are some instructions for both tools:

https://learn.visto.li/en/articles/4...e-the-best-ads

https://native.adplexity.com/tutorial

Analyze 30-50, or even 100 of the most promising results, to find out the following information:

-What kinds of offers are being run? Which verticals? Which conversion flows? What range of payout?

-What landers and ads are being used?

All that will need to be done before testing offers and optimizing campaigns.




Amy

09-01-2020 05:02 PM #10 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by duykin View Post
Can you tell me which traffic source is best for the United States? I mean the easiest to convert, I'm not talking about bid. I learn about facebook and bing and native, can you give me advice on these resources? Thank you.
You're asking a question that there is no answer for... there is nothing like "the best source for US".

There are sources that offer deep targeting options, which are needed to sell certain specific products... for example ecom offers work well on FB because you can target people who have already shown interest in related topics.
Then there are sources with no targeting options at all, when it comes to interests... these can work with broad appeal offers, for example sweeps and PUSH or POPs traffic.

Every traffic type is available on multiple sources and all of them have an international mix of traffic, so some might have more rotation in the US, but that doesnt make them the "best".

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