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Promoting rebills on FB (21)


01-16-2012 12:55 AM #1 greatman (Member)
Promoting rebills on FB

Is anyone here KILLING it doing like 4 digits & above per day? Any tips to share?

I'm doing a modest 3 digits per day bidding on trademark terms.


01-16-2012 12:57 AM #2 stackman (Administrator)

It would be easy if facebook didn't catch people a couple days in. If you know a secret sauce recipe from keeping them away from retro disapproval then you are ahead of the curve! I see a lot of people running them, but i know a lot of them go down within days, if not hours.

They're definitely are a couple people running them in xx,xxx a day -- All International.


01-16-2012 09:35 PM #3 stache (Member)

Stack is right... I was running it recently at around mid-4 to 5-figures daily, but then my ads were all retro'd and then my accounts banned shortly after.


01-16-2012 10:01 PM #4 mojstermiha (Member)

Why not get emails first and send them to rebills later? It should be still profitable if you were doing these figures daily with direct linking…


01-16-2012 10:11 PM #5 ibanez (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mojstermiha View Post
Why not get emails first and send them to rebills later? It should be still profitable if you were doing these figures daily with direct linking…
I dont think he was direct linking. Probably LP.


01-16-2012 10:20 PM #6 mojstermiha (Member)

Or cloaking. But even with LP, when a retro reviewer comes and if LP isn't cloaked and the reviewer clicks thou, your banned. I doubt they sign up on email and wait for forbidden links –touch wood


01-16-2012 10:42 PM #7 stackman (Administrator)

From my knowledge/testing it's VERY hard no matter what technique you use:
- You could just try to grab emails, but even that seems to get retro disapproved quite fast.
- Cloaking works to some degree, but it doesn't stand too strong lately
- Landing page is the weakest of them all, the FB reviewers have these niches on lockdown, they categorize images (even specific images) and know to immediate block it.

Best way is to take a unique angle spin that isn't aggressive, and it's still a game of cat and mouse, but can be lucrative for short term.


01-16-2012 10:49 PM #8 dconstrukt (Member)

for me, it just came down to the amount of time needed to get shit setup on fb (new card/account etc), then how long to get campaigns live, then getting them profitable..... all this before getting axed.... it just was too much work for nothing back in return.

so we are looking elsewhere for traffic..... (hello pof).

I'd rather invest that same time into something thats going to work more long term.

but if you're doing rebills on pof... god bless you.... my hats off to ya.


01-17-2012 12:13 AM #9 shermanchoo (Member)

tried to get on the phone with facebook?

my opening line when calling up traffic sources reps "hi, i like to understand why my ads are constantly disapproved and what i can do to make them stay"

ads promoting a new FRESH, LEGIT weight loss product on facebook, that people like and is within facebooks social circle of trust stay up quite permanently.


01-17-2012 12:27 AM #10 polarbacon (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by shermanchoo View Post
tried to get on the phone with facebook?

my opening line when calling up traffic sources reps "hi, i like to understand why my ads are constantly disapproved and what i can do to make them stay"

ads promoting a new FRESH, LEGIT weight loss product on facebook, that people like and is within facebooks social circle of trust stay up quite permanently.
YES...

and they are full of shit.....sales and ad approval are 2 separtae things ....I have had many a convo with my rep....and he says one thing ad approval does another.....

true story...

I was advertising a penny stock aka I was the advertiser like my partner and I owned the offer.....

they kept disapproving my ads and lp...and I kept asking my rep wtf....

he kept saying it should be fine....well after about 100 ads or so getting disapproved...I got pissed called him up again and I said I wanted answers.....

and this is what he said....

"spoke to the ads team and they said the issue is with "penny" in you ads as it seems that some of the reviewers are thinking your running a penny auction site and thats not allowed on FB..."

ya i wish I was lying.....so I have to remove the word penny from my lp

I WAS A FUCKING PENNY STOCK NEWSLETTER!!!!!!!!!!!


ummmmm ya.....


mind you I am not ragging on you.....your right calling is a good thing....but do expect to get the run around at fb.....there is a serious disconnect going on in the company.....between the "user" experience and the sales dept....


01-17-2012 02:02 AM #11 shermanchoo (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by polarbacon View Post
YES...

and they are full of shit.....sales and ad approval are 2 separtae things ....I have had many a convo with my rep....and he says one thing ad approval does another.....

true story...

I was advertising a penny stock aka I was the advertiser like my partner and I owned the offer.....

they kept disapproving my ads and lp...and I kept asking my rep wtf....

he kept saying it should be fine....well after about 100 ads or so getting disapproved...I got pissed called him up again and I said I wanted answers.....

and this is what he said....

"spoke to the ads team and they said the issue is with "penny" in you ads as it seems that some of the reviewers are thinking your running a penny auction site and thats not allowed on FB..."

ya i wish I was lying.....so I have to remove the word penny from my lp

I WAS A FUCKING PENNY STOCK NEWSLETTER!!!!!!!!!!!


ummmmm ya.....


mind you I am not ragging on you.....your right calling is a good thing....but do expect to get the run around at fb.....there is a serious disconnect going on in the company.....between the "user" experience and the sales dept....
when similar happen to me, with adwords in my case, i found googles address, and went down to the google's office
to speak with the people there. the rep that gave me issues who was informed i was coming down was now where to be found.

the reason why i was confident to do so was because i was running legit campaigns accounts, and i knew the rep was not familiar with adwords.

the account came back online, else, like u, i was give the run around. i normally would wait but because
we had some big projects coming up and i could not afford to have the accounts offline during the weekend
and lose $$$$$$$ for not having leads and calls come in during this time.

im not in the usa, but if im running something im confident about thats 100% legit (no cloaking, funky biz ops etcetc),
i will take a trip down to facebook to expedite things if the situation called for it, and get up and personal with that rep, and if he can't do anything,
then the person above him, until we find the right person that can get things moving..


01-17-2012 02:07 AM #12 shanktank (Member)

Wow. Are they dumb or what? Judging a niche just with 1 single word.

I wonder if they would disapprove an ad that says "Pen Island"


01-17-2012 02:10 AM #13 polarbacon (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by shanktank View Post
Wow. Are they dumb or what? Judging a niche just with 1 single word.

I wonder if they would disapprove an ad that says "Pen Island"
funny thing is I reg'ed a new domain without penny.....and I had no more issues....

so the rep was right as dumb as it sounds....


01-17-2012 04:17 AM #14 dconstrukt (Member)

@polarbacon - same thing happened with us.... approval dept and the rep say 2 different things.... they dont fucking talk to one another? its like one has no clue wtf the other says or something.


01-17-2012 04:18 AM #15 dconstrukt (Member)

@shanktank lol ask kern... thats his "film co" name pen island studios.


01-17-2012 05:41 AM #16 vidivo (Member)

i was making around 5k or so a day on fb.. US rebill with landing page but it lasted only around 1 -2 weeks..


01-17-2012 02:25 PM #17 dconstrukt (Member)

5k a day? damn.... thats nice. 1-2 weeks... not so nice. that shit would drive me nuts.


01-17-2012 04:57 PM #18 403flux (Member)

i was making around 5k or so a day on fb.. US rebill with landing page but it lasted only around 1 -2 weeks..
35-70k in 2 weeks? You just made someone's entire annual salary in 2 weeks, I'd say that's a pretty good run.


01-17-2012 06:08 PM #19 vidivo (Member)

yeah it was def good.. was happening while i was in ad tech too so i was pretty ballin over in new york! then the last day it ran it got banned from facebook and since my roi was around 50 percent i made just over 10k profit a day since i never paid fb the last day


01-17-2012 09:13 PM #20 dconstrukt (Member)

shit, i need affiliates like that promoting my stuff. the dating niche/pua niche has almost none.


05-23-2012 05:48 PM #21 Connaissance (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by shermanchoo View Post
ads promoting a new FRESH, LEGIT weight loss product on facebook, that people like and is within facebooks social circle of trust stay up quite permanently.
Shermanchoo: can you elaborate on this please? What do you mean by "social circle of trust"?


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