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Need Suggestion what to buy Kintura or TheOptimizer for optimizing Push Campaigns ? (18)

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Hi,

i need a suggestion what optimizer to buy Kintura or TheOptimizer for optimizing push campaigns?

i'm not sure if TheOptimizer is supporting AdMaven.

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Not yet, these are the sources that are supported by TheOptimizer at the moment



But let´s ask @platinum if there are plans to add AdMaven to the supported trafficsources.

I just checked Kintura but unluckily I didn´t find an overview there about the supported trafficsources.

Maybe someone who has used both platforms could give some input here as well.

I personally use Optimizer and I am pretty happy with it.

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i was comparing the two. and Kintura seems to be simpler to setup since it's a tracker and optimizer at the same time but it looks like TheOptimizer is the industry standard and have been tested for quite some time already.

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About simpler setup, I use Binom as my tracker and the server setup for it is very easy.
When you can´t do it alone their support will setup the whole server for you for free.

And for the combination of dedicated server + Binom + Optimizer you pay just a bit more than for Kintura Basic but you have unlimited events in your tracker (self hosted).
For me this is the better option because I also run lots of pops where you usually generate much higher volumes than on push or so.

Anyway, did you check already which sources are supported by Kintura?
Or do you know if they have a list of supported sources somewhere?

Because this would also be a criterion for me, often I run so many campaigns that I started to focus more on sources that are supported by Optimizer so that I can handle the workload

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the tracker side of Kintura seems to support AdMaven but i don't know if the optimizer part supports Admaven. i also thought of using Binom but i only have a 2GB memory 50GB SSD VPS Server at 50 USD a month.

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Every tracker will support tracking AdMaven, this is not the problem.

More important would be to know if the optomization part supports it.

About the server, for $50/month you can get much more powerful stuff, for that money just grab a dedicated server.

For example check here on Hetzner (I also have my server at Hetzner)

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Thanks for the tag @twinaxe!

@seogood100 unfortunately AdMaven is not yet supported and if I'm not wrong it was missing some important API functionalities needed for the integration to work.

However, we do support quite a few mainstream push traffic ad networks like Zeropark, PropellerAds, RichPush, PushGround, ActiveRevenue and Evadav.

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One suggestion: Just make sure that when they mention they support AdMaven, it is an actual integration that can interact with their system and not just tracking capabilities. As for tracking, any tracker supports that

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From the Kintura website:

Currently supported sources are Taboola, Revcontent, MGID, Exoclick, Zeropark and PropellerAds

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Good find, thanks for posting.

So Optimzer supports many more sources, that´s good to know

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thanks for the info.

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i didn't know you could get dedicated server for 50 bucks a month, i thought it's more than 100 usd a month.

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Can TheOptimizer block non-converting "source" and "supply id" separately in Pushground ?

In the rules of TheOptimizer the "block publisher" is equal to "source in Pushground while the "pause source" is equal to "supply id" in Pushground, am i correct ?

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Yes, it can.

"Block Publishers" in Optimizer is to block "Supply ID" in Pushground and "Block Source" in Optimizer is to block "Site ID" in Pushground.

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@twinaxe

Where does TheOptimizer pull data if i set the "considering data from" to say last 30 days, does it get data from Traffic Source or Tracker ?

the reason why i ask this is, please see below:

1. Lets say i make a propeller campaign MAY 27, 2020 named proptestcampaign1 connected to Voluum campaign named voltestcampaign1.
2. I set TheOptimizer consider data from last 30 days starting MAY 27, 2020.
3. I run the campaign but for some reason, after 15 days, i deleted proptestcampaign1 on Propeller but not voltestcampaign1 on Voluum.
4. Now, i started a clone campaign of proptestcampaign1 on propeller and connected it on voluum to voltestcampaign1 and run for the next 15 days because i would like to continue gathering data from the original campaign.

Now here are my questions.

If TheOptimizer pulls data from Voluum after 30 days, then it would "consider data from" both the proptestcampaign1 and clonetestcampaign1 because on Voluum they are connected to tha same campaignwhich is voltestcampaign right ?

If TheOptimizer pulls data only from Propeller after 30 days, then it would "consider data from" only proptestcampaign1 not on clonetestcampaign1 because they are considered as separate campaigns right ?

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It depends on the rule.

When the rule is tracker related like LP CTR or so it grabs the data from the tracker.

When you use a rule like "IF profit IS lower THAN $5" in the last 30 days it would get the stats from bith, tracker and trafficsource.

It gets the revenue from the tracker and the cost from the trafficsource.
That way they have the real accurate numbers and not the numbers from the tracker that can be pretty far off sometimes because of the trafficloss.

It depends on the tracker, I am using Binom and there it´s no problem when I run several different campaigns on the trafficsource with same campaign URL to only one campaign in the tracker.
TheOptimizer can still track them separated because of the different campaign IDs from the trafficsource.

I use it to keep my stats from cloned TS campaigns in one tracker campaign so that it´s not split across many different campaigns.

As far as I know it also works that way with Voluum and Funnelflux, not sure about other trackers.

It would see them both as separate campaigns because they have different campaign IDs in the trafficsource.

When you have more questions about it feel free to message @platinum as well, he is the expert when it comes to TheOptimizer

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thanks a lot for your time , i already signed up with TheOptimizer and reading the manual. i'm already familiar with basic optimization rules because of my Pushground's account built in optimizer .

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Happy when I can help

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