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What Breaks First: $1k/day or my sanity??? (40)

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Good morning everyone and welcome to my thread, where you get the rare privilege of watching a complete noob crash and burn over and over again at something which seems nearly impossible. What's that you say, you see people try and fail at this almost daily with a washout rate greater than 90%?

Well you're in for a treat: not only do I love pain (I was in the Marine Corps for 5 years after all), but I have that perfect combination of stubbornness and stupidity which prevents me from knowing when to quit. Sometimes this pays off (see: bodybuilding, car sales, finally getting that pimple in the middle of my back). Other times, I'm not so sure (why did I spend 6 years in Afghanistan???)

Either way, I'm looking forward to starting this journey. With any luck I'll learn a few things, make some money and friends, and give you guys a bit of entertainment.

With that out of the way, I'll follow up later with my results of Vortex's 40 day tutorial. For now, it's off to a boxing lesson.

-J

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Hey man, looking forward for your journey.

But please do us one favor format your posts a bit better, otherwise it´s really a pain to read and we have to suffer together with you

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lol no problem, thanks for the advice.

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Good luck.

Honestly, if you got bodybuilding and car sales working, then you'll do fine here.

Same concepts

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Thanks bro, that's encouraging to hear.

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Agreed. Everything in life is like weightlifting: you educate yourself on it, you formulate a plan of action, then you do it over and over until you get the results you want.

Look forward to hearing about your journey.

What traffic source have you selected? What's your first steps?

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Years ago I taught myself guitar. It was painful for the first 6 months, building calluses on my fingers and getting my hands to stretch into awkward positions for different chords. Finally I hit a point of competence, and was able to practice about 8 hours a day and my playing skyrocketed. Since then, everything I've learned has followed the same path: incompetence and pain for a few months until I get enough repetitions, then it's just a matter of doing it over and over again like you said.

I'm following Vortex's 40 day tutorial, so I have accounts set up with PopAds and Propeller Ads, an account with Voluum, and I've been accepted by Gotzha and Mobidea. I'm on day 9 of the tutorial, and once I finish this part I'll write up what I've done so far, and include some screenshots as I'm sure there are a few mistakes in there.

I appreciate your feedback, thanks

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Lol yep I remember the same thing when I learned guitar.

But yeah, very cool man! Look forward to following your journey!

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Ok, so far between yesterday and today I've made it through Day 9 of Vortex's amazing 40 day guide: I've created my accounts with Mobidea and Gotzha, I have a domain through Namecheap and a tracker with Voluum, as well as accounts with Popads and Propeller ads. So far I only have a vague idea of what each of these sites do, but I'm sure I'll learn more as I progress.

Here is a screenshot of my domain through namecheap:

I then added that to my Voluum account as shown:


I was then able to pick a couple of offers from Mobidea and Gotzha, although the layout is a bit different than what's in the guide.
I ran into a few hickups along the way, while adding propeller ads to voluum I got an error:

and I'm not sure if this is the proper postback URL from Voluum:

Same thing when putting the postback URL into Gotzha:


Thoughts?

Thanks guys.

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Can't see the small images properly on my phone so I can reply with more details tomorrow when I am back on my pc.

But one thing, you don't need to set the postback at Gotzha for each offer manually.

Just send the postback to your AM so that he can set it as global postback.
Then it's applied automatically for all offers.

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You replace those with the API from propellerads. Here's a really simple walkthrough with voluum

https://doc.Voluum.com/en/propellerads_integration.html

In regards to your postback, just do what twinaxe says. To get your postback, in voluum, go to the Affiliate Networks tab, and ad the new network. Your postback will be at the bottom of the mini popup

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Thanks for that link. I found the postback right where you said, but I also found it in settings>tracking url's>postback url.
Now the question is, how do I modify it for each affiliate network.

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Let me just say that I have an incredible amount of respect for anyone that's figured this out, and especially those of you that have gone it alone and are now writing posts to help others. There is an overwhelming amount of information to absorb, and I salute those of you that have gone before me.

It reminds me a bit of when I first started boxing. Having been in the Marine Corps and practiced martial arts as well as weight lifting for years, I considered myself to be in great physical condition. After a few months of hitting the bag and training with mitts, my boxing coach threw me in the ring for 3 rounds of sparring. After two rounds I was dead, and I spent the third round playing defense, grappling with my opponent so that he couldn't hit me. At the end of the match I couldn't keep my hands up and I took a clean shot to the temple, which was thankfully absorbed by the headgear I was wearing. The only time I had ever felt so tired was after a 12 mile hike with a full load during combat training down in Camp Pendleton.

Leaning against the ropes in the corner of the ring, sweat pouring off of my face, I couldn't believe that professional fighters go for 12 and 15 round bouts. It was at that time that I realized a newfound admiration for these guys that get in the ring and get punished for upwards of 45 minutes.

You guys are the boxers of the internet/sales world. This stuff is simply incredible.

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Volume has pre-built templates for most of the popular CPA-Networks out there.
What you need to do now is use those templates to create the list of Networks you are planning to use.
This way when you'll be creating campaigns all the tracking info will get passed from the CPA Network to the tracker.

For now all you have to do is find the template for your CPA Network in Voluum, copy the link from the tab and either paste it to the global postback section of the network or ask your AM/Support to do it for you if you can't find it in their platform.

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Ok forgive my ignorance but a lot of this is jargon that's just going over my head.
To clarify, the global postback is the link that I use from Voluum to put into each of my offers within various networks, correct? The postback url sends information to Voluum to track user data? And each postback is slightly different based on the affiliate network?

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I think I understand what you're saying. Within Voluum's template, the postback url will be already modified for the individual CPA Network that was selected, so I take that URL and send it to my CPA network so Voluum can track my stats through that network?

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I can relate. And for me the "guitar" was a seemingly complicated social media app. But when I got the knack, it became my second nature. Interestingly, when I Google and check reviews on that app, I surprisingly saw too many negative reviews. And that was for obvious reasons. They did not put that app to right use and were blaming the app instead. Soon after my confidence went sky high and I started learning other things in days that were taking me months. Now waiting for things to sky-rocket.

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you are almost right - the only thing to add is that a global postback means that it will be used by the CPA Network to send information to Voluum to track user data for all of the offers you will be running with them. You won't have to change it for every offer

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exactly!

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Cool

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Alright, what the hell did I do wrong?

I'm on Day 9 of the 40 Day Guide, and it looks like I need to edit my tracking url...

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Forget about that, you don´t need specific postbacks per offer.

Just grab the postback from the Tracking URL setting, change the tokens to the ones from the cpa network and use it as a global postback.



If you´re not sure how to do it with the tokens just message your AM about it and they will help you out and can also implement it in the cpa network.

Btw, please insert the images correctly in the posts, then it´s much easier to check them.

I have a link in my signature for an easy guide on how to do it

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As far as the postback url goes, if I grab it from the specific affiliate network from Voluum, it's already populated with the tokens, correct?

Example: Here is adding Gotzha as an affiliate network on Voluum, and the postback seems to be modified for Gotzha:



Is this what I'm looking for?

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If you use the presets from Voluum for the affiliate networks they have in their list you don't need to modify anything.

You can just copy the link and add it on the cpa network or give it to your AM.

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Excellent. That's what I thought but wanted to make sure.

Thanks.

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It's still better to check it.

I personally always set up the networks manually so that I don't have to rely on the presets because they can be wrong or different from what I need sometimes

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This dude can write compelling copy and he doesn’t know it yet (or he does).

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Quick update:

-I've been working on finals for the last few days, but those are done, so I'm completely free to work on AM until June 15 (summer semester).

-Per the recommendation in Vortex' guide, I'm making my way through Codecademy's free courses.

-Either today or tomorrow, I'll use adplexity and rip some sweeps landers and start my own campaign.

Thanks for all the help so far.

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Thanks for the update.

Let us know when you get stuck or need some help.

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Alright guys, I'm on Day 16 of the guide, and looking over some sweeps landers on AdPlexity, as well as digging through my networks for sweeps offers. So far I am only a member in 3 networks (Mobidea, Mobipium and Gotzha) and not finding a whole lot of sweepstakes offers within those 3 networks that fit the criteria for our 40 day tutorial. Any advice?

Also, is it still best practice to ask your AM for offers, or to just sort through them on your own? I notice in each network that I have the ability to sort by most of the criteria that is recommended, but like I said, this doesn't leave me with many, if any, offers.

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First advice, you don´t have to stick with sweeps only.

But probably it´s good in the beginning to rather follow the guide, apart from that sweeps are very good anyway.

You can also check Clickdealer, Advidi, YepAds, BigBangAds, they all have good sweep offers.

To get a feeling asnd keep things as simple as possible it´s good in the beginning to ask the AMs for offers that already show good conversions.

You can also check newsletters from the networks you work with or ask for TOR (Top Offer Reports) and see if there is something that looks interesting for you/for the geos you run.

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Ok thanks, I messaged the three managers from my networks.

Just to be clear, ultimately what we want to do is pick an offer that looks good and create our own ad/lander combo, right?

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You want offers that convert to build good converting funnels of creative -> landing page -> offer

In the end it all comes down to a good offer, the offer performance can make or break your campaigns.
That also means that it´s much easier to build a good funnel when you have a good offer.

So my workflow is to first test few different creatives, landers and offers and when I see that an offer is doing better than others I will use this offer to test the creatives and landers with that offer.
When I then have a good converting funnel I use this funnel to test the available offers that I have on that funnel to find the best offer.

I can imagine that it probably sounds a bit confusing but when you get used to it it´s a good and very logical way to run that stuff.

When everything goes right I am left with a good working combination of 1 creative, 1 LP and 1 offer

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Hi! In MOBIPIUM, we started focusing on sweeps about 2 weeks ago and we're adding more and more sweepstakes (mainly CC submit) offers every day! If you need help reach out to me, I can recommend you a few according to your type of traffic!

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hi,are you here? how about your journey now?

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OP was last active in May 2020. Probably his sanity broke first

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Lol.. just re-read the thread- I prefer to think he finally cracked it and is now practicing stealth wealth looking down at us with his millions

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I guess affiliate marketing is worse than being a marine in Afghanistan...

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I hope the marines don't read this.

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Uh-oh

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At least he tried for about 2 1/2 weeks

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