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Not enough Volume on Propeller? (11)


04-26-2020 09:07 PM #1 icepick819 (Member)
Not enough Volume on Propeller?

Hi guys I’ve been running push traffic on Propeller and I’m a bit confused over the traffic volume. I grouped a bunch of t1 English speaking geos into one campaign (US,CA,UK etc) and bid 2-3 cents above the recommended bid for high activity users and I was only able to spend 50$ in a day across multiple high inventory geos on push. Does propeller have low volume compared to other sources? Can someone share with me sources that have massive volumes without sacrificing too much traffic quality?

I can’t see how anyone can be doing volume/profit on push if a major source like propeller which says in their inventory stats that there is 10 million daily impressions in a geo will only send me 20-30$ spend in a single day with a highly competitive bid.

Any help is appreciated thank you!


04-27-2020 01:54 PM #2 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Does propeller have low volume compared to other sources?
No, Propeller has enough volume.

I personally can spend 4 figures/day only on Propeller.

It´s really hard to say why you received only so low volume without more info.

Maybe you set your targeting too tight or so.

Can someone share with me sources that have massive volumes without sacrificing too much traffic quality?
ZP, HilltopAds, Pushground, Evadav, Adcash, Advertizer, Adsterra.

I have campaigns running on all of them but not everything performs same good or same bad for everyone so best would be to just run some quick tests with a very good converting funnel.

That´s the cheapest and most effective way to check other sources.


04-27-2020 05:48 PM #3 affpayinggao (Veteran Member)

Have you tried to contact their support rep and ask them for the assistance?


04-27-2020 07:54 PM #4 fjk87 (Veteran Member)

For push, bid recommendations are pretty much useless, at least the ones before you start a campaign. The bid is completely irrelevant, it's all a CTR game - the CTR defines how high the CPM for the network will be.

Still some networks won't accept a bid below X, simply to avoid people leeching cheap/almost free clicks.

Think of it like this: would you prefer 10 clicks per 1k impressions for $0.10 CPC, or 30 clicks for $0.04?

More reasons can be the daily / total budget which is taken into consideration to avoid heavy overspend, a high budget is usually preferred at literally every network.


04-27-2020 08:05 PM #5 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Propeller is a big network, I've spent 4 figures daily there too. Must be something with your targeting indeed.

ZP, HilltopAds, Pushground, Evadav, Adcash, Advertizer, Adsterra.
To add to this list from twinaxe, there is also richpush, admaven, megapush (this one received some bad feedback lately so careful there) ...


04-27-2020 11:54 PM #6 icepick819 (Member)

Okay fair enough I can provide some additional information:

WIth my current targetting options I am targetting the Big 5 English Tier 1 Geos, desktop traffic, with a bid of 7 cents and I am getting 1% ad CTR, yet I'm only able to spend 50-70 USD a day. Does this seem right? Are you seeing much higher ad CTRs in general with push traffic?


04-28-2020 10:07 AM #7 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

With that targeting it really is too low, I ran desktop campaigns on high volume on Propeller and could spend much more..

Try to run clone campaigns to get more volume.

Are you seeing much higher ad CTRs in general with push traffic?
Desktop traffic usually has higher CTR compared to mobile traffic but 1% CTR is not unusual.


04-28-2020 01:46 PM #8 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

I also had higher CTRs with desktop (2-3% was quite common, but some feeds were even lower than 1% on the other hand) and yes it's true that desktop traffic is way lower in volumes compared to mobile, but still, with that targeting you should have received way more clicks.

Cloning campaigns is a very common tactic to raise volume, propeller's algo seems to prefer to send traffic to a big variety of campaigns to keep a healthy variety level. So that's one thing you can try.

Test more ADs too, the higher the CTR the more the algo will prefer your ADs over the rest.

And you can also try to raise the bids, it's possible that 7 cents isn't enough in the most competitive feeds/placements for the most competitive EN geos.

The last thing you can test is to test the other activity levels, you can get a lot of traffic there too.


04-29-2020 02:03 AM #9 icepick819 (Member)

Thanks guys! I'll try duplicating campaigns and see if that helps. According to the estimators my bid is definitely competitive, and I'll see if the other activity levels are still profitable for my campaign. Appreciate the help!


04-29-2020 05:40 AM #10 kjrocker (Senior Member)

As matuloo have mentioned the best bet would be to clone your campaign ..


09-16-2020 12:30 PM #11 nicolew (Member)

Meybe you have just a couple of campaigns, try to create more or add more creatives or raise your bid. But also you can contact support and ask them what to do


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