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04-23-2020 10:39 PM #1 magnapinna (Member)
Is FB following me?

Hi everybody,

I recently decided to start doing some WH leadgen on Facebook primarily in the insurance and legal vertical.

My first campaign went pretty good in it's test stage, but the advertiser had a lot of issues with placing my pixel (conversion data was inflated by 10:1) so i decided to try some other offers, and this is where a nightmare of account bans started.

Everytime i try to publish ads i get my ad account(s) disabled with "Circumventing Systems" policy.

I've tried making new images / new copy / new domain / new lander (not using a tracker either), and also tried publishing ads from friends ad accounts (using different credit cards) but it's insta ban every time.

The only "new thing" i've been doing is to use lander lab to create my landers with, which uses clouflare as hosting. At the end of the day i guess it shouldn't really make any difference though?

All ads, landers and offers comply with the guidelines, yet im not getting my accounts back on appeal for some reason.

Im thinking that i must be doing something wrong somewhere, but i can't seem to find out where it is i'm going wrong.

Anyone else who has experienced this too? If so, how did you fix it / what were you doing wrong?

Cheers!


04-24-2020 08:16 AM #2 platinum (Veteran Member)

Are you using a tracking platform to rotate/redirect visitors to multiple landing pages and/or offers?


04-24-2020 08:25 AM #3 stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Or you have any scripts running like, collect push, or some pop-up box on the lander? Perhaps you can show the stuff here so we can check it better? If it's secret send me a PM so I can take a look.

And what about your IP?

Also insurances are still very touchy, so you might ask yourself is it really WH what I am doing? And is the angle + wordings not misleading/disturbing anywhere?


04-24-2020 12:37 PM #4 magnapinna (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by platinum View Post
Are you using a tracking platform to rotate/redirect visitors to multiple landing pages and/or offers?
Nope not using any trackers. The only thing that could be remotely similar is my outgoing offer link on the LP, but that’s all really.


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04-24-2020 02:07 PM #5 magnapinna (Member)
Is FB following me?

Quote Originally Posted by stickupkid View Post
Or you have any scripts running like, collect push, or some pop-up box on the lander? Perhaps you can show the stuff here so we can check it better? If it's secret send me a PM so I can take a look.

And what about your IP?

Also insurances are still very touchy, so you might ask yourself is it really WH what I am doing? And is the angle + wordings not misleading/disturbing anywhere?
Don’t have any sorts scripts running, on the technical side the only change I’ve made is use lander lab instead of just hosting HTML files on S3.

For IP I use Luminati residential proxies, something I did notice was on some of the new accounts I used IPs within the same sub range, but since I got instabanned on IPs that weren’t in that sub range too, I’m not sure if it plays a role. For the payment I use Revolut VCC, which doesn’t show as a prepaid in bin list but as a physical “Visa infinite”.

To give a little more backstory on this whole ban thing :
Offer 1 that I wanted to promoted went right through and got scheduled on my main BM, but adv had tracking problems.
I tried using a trick where I directed traffic to 10 landers with different sub IDs, and then I got the circumventing ban, guess they thought i was cloaking or something.
Since that ban I haven’t been able to run anything related to finance in that BM (not even other WH offers).
But where it gets even more weird is when I try other accs, I just get the insta ban as well, so not really sure what’s setting it off.

As far as I know, the offers should be good, many other affiliates are running them with longevity on FB, and AM confirmed that nobody else is having probs.

I tried testing if it was the creatives too, by taking the most vanilla creative I have, which is just a selfie of a woman, and some normal ad copy, and still I just got the ban right out the gate. Tested this in a brand new ad acc and personal profile.

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04-24-2020 02:52 PM #6 stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

It looks like your device is flagged, from where you run ads.


04-24-2020 03:05 PM #7 magnapinna (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by stickupkid View Post
It looks like your device is flagged, from where you run ads.
Im using multilogin though, shouldn't that be enough to hide the identity of my "real device"?

For my main BM i used a different laptop as well


04-24-2020 11:05 PM #8 i_click_buttons (Junior Member)

It's just how FB is atm, a lot of false-positive bans. Accounts going down for alot of people no matter if WH or BH, I would suggest to stop using CF. There's possibility these two companies work together and link all domains to one acc.


04-25-2020 02:59 PM #9 atom64 ()

cloudflare is fully transparent for facebook and google, they see your real hosting IP behind CF.
you will need a reverse proxy in front of your hosting to prevent footprints + MLA for device spoofing


04-25-2020 04:05 PM #10 magnapinna (Member)
Is FB following me?

Quote Originally Posted by atom64 View Post
cloudflare is fully transparent for facebook and google, they see your real hosting IP behind CF.
you will need a reverse proxy in front of your hosting to prevent footprints + MLA for device spoofing
Thanks!
Sounds like this could be what im doing wrong. Couldn’t an easy fix just be to export my LPs as HTML files and host them on AWS or Vultr instead of going with reverse proxies?
If so, which hosting service would you recommend for FB?


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04-25-2020 05:30 PM #11 atom64 ()

actually i dont think it was the IP, FB is just crazy banning like hell, even whitehat stuff. FB don't ban IPs this fast.
There are a lot of other footprints like the Images with meta information or its just the vertical you try to submit.
On AWS you can have a ton of IPs, on vultr only 3 for each VPS


04-25-2020 05:59 PM #12 magnapinna (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by atom64 View Post
actually i dont think it was the IP, FB is just crazy banning like hell, even whitehat stuff. FB don't ban IPs this fast.
There are a lot of other footprints like the Images with meta information or its just the vertical you try to submit.
On AWS you can have a ton of IPs, on vultr only 3 for each VPS
Yeah maybe it isn't but its worth the try i guess. What i tried doing was edtiting the lander a little and hosting it from a new cloudflare acc, not sure if that debunks the thesis that they could trace by hosting IP?


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